Voting list - missing cars from FH3/FH4 to return in FH5 [Update_2024/2/11: -21 cars, +4431 votes]

It’s been a couple of months since the Suggestions Hub with car voting was opened, so it’s about time to make some use of this tool.

Let’s see how fares voting on cars that were present in FH4 and/or FH3 but are missing in FH5. Perhaps highlighting the most wanted models will help PGG make better choices regarding what recycled cars to include in future updates? (Yes, I’d like to see only #NewToForza cars in each series too, but I’m afraid that’s rather impossible).

I’m updating the list on a regular basis (hope to see some changes, especially more love for cars at the bottom of the list :wink: ).

Car Votes Notes
2018 Kia Stinger 776 (+191)
1995 Ford SVT Cobra R [FH3] 541 (+154)
2010 Mazda Mazdaspeed 3 [FH3] 462 (+96)
2018 Volkswagen I.D R Pikes Peak 407 (+175)
2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track [FH3] 323 (+108)
2003 Renault Sport Clio V6 322 (+126) Available in FM8
2012 Shelby 1000 299 (+43)
2002 Lotus Esprit V8 298 (+62)
1996 Subaru SVX [FH3] 297 (+69)
2012 Chrysler 300 SRT8 [FH3] 280 (+79)
2014 Lexus IS 350 F Sport [FH3] 264 (+49) Available in FM8
1952 Hudson Hornet 235 (+80)
1985 Mazda RX-7 GSL-SE 231 (+52) Available in FM8
1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z 222 (+84)
1999 BMW Z8 220 (+43)
1968 Lancia Fulvia Coupe Rallye 1.6 HF 186 (+55)
2009 Lexus IS F 177 (+69)
2011 Lotus Evora S 177 (+43) Available in FM8
2058 Quadra Turbo-R V-Tech 175 (+49)
2004 Vauxhall VX220 Turbo 174 (+52)
1978 Ford Mustang II King Cobra [FH3] 171 (+43)
1972 Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL 6.3 [FH3] 170 (+31)
1986 BMW M635 CSi [FH3] 164 (+46)
2014 Chevrolet Super Sport [FH3] 157 (+45)
1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator 156 (+20) Available in FM8
1993 Porsche 928 GTS 150 (+51) Available in FM8
2014 Infiniti Q50 Eau Rouge 148 (+44) Available in FM8
1973 Mazda RX-3 147 (+48) Available in FM8
1998 Aston Martin V8 Vantage V600 [FH3] 145 (+28) Available in FM8
2017 Aston Martin Vanquish Zagato Coupe 142 (+35) Available in FM8
1996 HSV GTS-R 139 (+55) Available in FM8
2012 Ferrari F12berlinetta 130 (+43)
1981 Citroen 2CV6 129 (+36)
2000 Plymouth Prowler [FH3] 124 (+30)
2016 Chevrolet Camaro Super Sports [FH3] 122 ? (+28) Available in FM8
1992 Alfa Romeo Milano Quadrifoglio Verde [FH3] 121 (+46)
1975 Citroen DS 23 121 (+27)
2015 Volvo S60 Polestar [FH3] 121 ? (+50)
1972 Volvo 1800E [FH3] 120 (+15)
2004 Maserati MC12 119 (+35) Available in FM8
1969 Oldsmobile Hurst/Odds 442 (new topic) 118 Available in FM8
1977 Aston Martin V8 Vantage / 1986 Aston Martin V8 116 (+26)
2012 Infiniti IPL G Coupe [FH3] (new link) 116 ? (+43) Available in FM8
2012 Aston Martin V12 Zagato [FH3] 112 (+39)
2012 Aston Martin Vanquish 112 (+36)
1967 Ford Falcon XR GT / 1971 Ford Falcon XY GTHO Phase III [FH3] 112 (+26)
2011 HSV GTS 112 ? (+37)
2013 Lexus GS350 F Sport [FH3] 111 (+31) Available in FM8
1979 Opel Kadett C GT/E [FH3] 111 (+36) Available in FM8
1990 Renault Alpine GTA Le Mans [FH3] 110 (+28) Available in FM8
2018 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio 109 (+50)
2012 Cadillac Escalade ESV 109 (+60)
1968 Opel GT [FH3] 109 (+33)
2012 Bowler EXR S 106 (+9)
2008 Volkswagen Touareg R50 105 (+27)
2013 Dodge Dart GT [FH3] 103 (+29) Available in FM8
2011 DS Automobiles DS3 Racing 103 (+32) Available in FM8
2011 Cadillac CTS-V Coupe [FH3] 102 (+16)
2016 Volvo Iron Knight 102 (+36)
2014 Maserati Ghibli S Q4 (new link) 97 (+35) Available in FM8
1959 BMW 507 [FH3] 96 (+18)
1992 Ford Falcon GT [FH3] 95 (+20)
1988 Holden VL Commodore Group A SV 94 (+21) Available in FM8
1988 Lamborghini Jalpa [FH3] 93 (+30)
1975 Lancia Stratos HF Group 4 [FH3] 92 (+13)
723 Quartz Regalia 91 (+16)
1979 Talbot Sunbeam Lotus 91 (+24)
2015 Bentley EXP 10 Speed 6 Concept [FH3] 86 (+17)
1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer [FH3] 84 (+13)
1959 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz Convertible 82 (+22)
2015 Ford Falcon XR8 [FH3] 82 ? (+36)
1934 Alfa Romeo P3 81 (+31)
1977 AMC Pacer X [FH3] 78 (+34)
1972 Lamborghini Jarama S 78 (+14) Available in FM8
2005 Lotus Elise 111S (new topic) 78
2001 TVR Tuscan S 78 (+8)
1960 Porsche 356 RSR from Emory Motorsport 76 (+18)
1975 Fiat X1/9 75 (+35)
1965 MG MGB GT 75 (+19) Available in FM8
1967 Chevrolet Chevelle Super Sport 396 74 (+14)
1971 Chevrolet Vega GT [FH3] 74 (+19)
1972 Mazda Cosmo 110S Series II 74 (+12) Available in FM8
1967 Volvo 123GT [FH3] 73 (+12)
2015 Aston Martin DB10 72 (+26)
1952 Fiat 8V Supersonic [FH3] 72 (+23)
1967 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia 72 (+14)
1966 Ford F-100 Flareside Abatti Racing Trophy Truck [FH3] 71 (+18)
1974 AMC Hornet X Hatchback 70 (+31)
1984 Rover SD1 Vitesse 70 (+20)
1977 Lotus Esprit S1 69 (+16)
2010 Vauxhall Insignia VXR 68 (+20)
2010 Morgan Aero Supersports 67 (+7)
1969 Aston Martin DBS 66 (+29) Available in FM8
1972 Chrysler VH Valiant Charger R/T E49 65 (+16) Available in FM8
2010 Saleen S5S Raptor 63 (+27)
1970 Honda S800 62 (+21) Available in FM8
1974 Toyota Corolla SR5 62 (+13) Available in FM8
2011 Ferrari FF 61 (+20)
2014 Land Rover Range Rover Supercharged [FH3] 60 (+17)
2017 Mercedes-Benz E 350 D 4MATIC Terrain “Project E-AT” 60 ? (+17)
2007 Renault Clio RS 197 60 (+9)
1963 Opel Kadett A 58 (+7)
1964 Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato 57 (+12) Available in FM8
2013 Ram Runner [FH3] 57 (+12)
2014 Terradyne Gurkha LAPV 57 (+18)
1963 Shelby Monaco King Cobra 56 (+13) Available in FM8
1949 Mercury Coupe 55 (+7)
2015 Hoonigan Gymkhana 8 Ford Fiesta ST RX43 54 (+13)
1990 Jaguar XJ-S 54 (+12)
2013 Ford Focus ST [FH3] 51 ? (+18)
1967 Volkswagen Type 3 1600 L 48 (+15)
2011 BMW Z4 sDrive35is 47 (+23)
2017 RAM 1500 Rebel TRX Concept 47 (+20)
2013 Bentley Continental GT Speed 44 ? (+10)
1974 Hoonigan Ford Bronco 43 (+7)
1948 Ferrari 166MM Barchetta 42 (+18)
1970 Triumph TR6 PI 42 (+7)
1964 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII 41 (+7) Available in FM8
1963 Ferrari 250 LM 41 (+10) Available in FM8
1969 Hot Wheels International-Harvester Loadstar CO-1600 41 (+15)
1953 Maserati A6GCS/53 Pininfarina Berlinetta 41 (+7) Available in FM8
2016 Subaru #199 WRX STI VT15R Rally Car 41 (+12)
1966 Hillman Imp 40 (+7)
2014 Top Gear Track-Tor 40 (+15)
2012 Vauxhall Astra VXR 40 (+3) Available in FM8
1966 Volkswagen Double Cab Pick-Up 39 ? (+12)
2013 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor Shelby [FH3] 38 (+17)
1956 Lotus Eleven 38 (+18)
1954 Jaguar XK120 SE 37 (+5)
2017 Hoonigan Gymkhana 10 Ford Fiesta ST 36 (+18)
1979 Triumph TR7 Roadster 36 (+7)
2018 BMW i8 Roadster 34 ? (+4)
1964 Austin FX4 Taxi 33 (+10)
1951 Holden 50-2106 FX Ute [FH3] 33 (+14)
1951 Holden FX Sedan [FH3] 32 (+11)
1961 Maserati Tipo 61 Birdcage 32 (+9) Available in FM8
1958 Plymouth Atomic Punk Bubbletop 32 (+1)
1957 Porsche 356A Speedster 32 (+10) Available in FM8
2012 Ultima GTR 720 [FH3] 31 ? (+19)
1966 Nissan Silvia [FH3] 30 (+6)
2009 Vauxhall Corsa VXR 30 (+8)
1957 Maserati 300 S 29 (+9) Available in FM8
1938 MG TA Midget 29 (+6)
1972 Hot Wheels Chevrolet LUV 28 (+6)
2018 MINI John Cooper Works Convertible 28 ? (+7)
1924 Austin Seven 27 (+12)
1969 Datsun 2000 Roadster [FH3] 27 (+5) Available in FM8
1972 Hot Wheels Studebaker Golden Hawk ‘Dream Roadster’ 27 (+5)
1960 Porsche 718 RS 60 27 (+10) Available in FM8
1958 MG MGA Twin-Cam 26 (+11) Available in FM8
2012 Porsche Cayenne Turbo 23 (+6)
2015 Porsche Macan Turbo 23 ? (+7)
1967 Sunbeam Tiger 23 (+4)
2017 Tamo Racemo 23 (+7)
1962 Triumph Spitfire 23 (+12)
2009 Ferrari California [FH3] 22 (+1)
2014 Lamborghini Urus Concept 21 (+6)
1962 Triumph TR3B 21 (+2)
2010 Abarth 500 esseesse [FH3] (new topic) 18
2016 Aston Martin Vulcan (new topic) 18 Available in FM8
1953 Ferrari 500 Mondial 16 (+4) Available in FM8
2015 Baldwin Motorsports Trophy Truck [FH3] n/a
1985 Lancia Delta S4 Group B [FH3] n/a

Some notes:

  • I’ve excluded cars in variants very similar to those already featured in FH5 (e.g. Plymouth Hemi Cuda Convertible Barrett-Jackson Edition).
  • I’ve put a question mark by numbers where one voting is connected to more than one car featured in Forza (e.g. Porsche Cayenne with one topic for both the 2012 and 2018 models, the latter being included in FH5 and the former not) or in case when available topics don’t fully match specific car.
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The ones that stick out most to me are the Cyberpunk + Final Fantasy cars, there aren’t even real manufacturers to get the green light off of with those.

I don’t believe CDPR + Square Enix will have suddenly started playing hardball with PG over the cars either, they could + should have been in the game from day 1.

Well that goes for this whole list but those in particular are standout to me personally, they should be the easiest of the lot.

Also talking of the Quadra I wish they’d have made it a permanent thing having a one-off race to unlock new cars like they did with that one in FH4, a great idea that’s never been used again since.

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I think those probably didn’t reappear because both of those franchises have been in a lot of hot water with the general gaming public lately. Heck, given how bad Cyberpunk was at launch, I’m amazed Microsoft/Playground/Whoever even followed through with the collaboration.

I can see some links have been clicked already so the first update of the list is in: +1 here and there, lifting some cars one or two spots up :slight_smile:

9 hours later I’ve registered 33 more votes so we have more changes on the list this time, e.g. Audi Sport quattro S1 joined the “100+ votes club” :slight_smile:

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+1 Sunbeam Tiger, +1 Maserati 300 S, +1 Morgan Aero SS, +1 MG TA Midget, +1 Toyota Corolla, +1 Porsche 356 RSR, +1 Jaguar XK120, +1 Ferrari 166, +1 Morgan Aero GT, +1 Ferrari 250 LM, +1 Cadillac Eldorado, +1 Austin-Healey, +1 Mazda Cosmo, +1 Oldsmobile, +2 Pontiac Firebird '73, +1 Citroen DS 23, +1 Bowler EXR S, +1 Pontiac Firebird '68, +1 Maserati MC12, +1 Koenigsegg CCX, +1 Renault Clio V6, +1 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z, +2 GMC Syclone, +1 Mazda RX-3, +1 Pontiac GTO Judge, +1 Mercury Cougar, +1 Pagani Huayra, +2 Audi Sport quattro S1, +1 McLaren 12C, +1 BMW Z8

Could be that they put stuff on hold due to beeing sold.

In my own experience Horizon 4 + 5 didn’t do better, could be dependend on my system tho. Plus Cyberpunk seems to enjoy a “no man’s sky comeback” due to fixes and the netflix anime.

At this point I don’t expect the Regalia nor the Quadra to come back, as they’re different assets made by different developers.

It surprised me that the MR2 SW20 is third on the list, considering I didn’t want that model back because the model was abysmal. Hoonigan may as well be on the chopping block since Ken Block just passed away.

As far as existing Best of Bond cars those will have to be reverted or retrofitted to the non-JB models. The DB5 in particular is MGM property so it can’t be licensed anymore. The rest would just be the model name and nothing more.

Also unless TG are willing to license them again don’t expect their wares like the Track-Tor.

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I see @T10ManteoMax has added threads for voting on missing cars from the bottom of the list (thank you!), so I’ve updated the first post with links for them. These models are highlighted by “(NEW)” label next to their names. Austin FX4 Taxi has already gained 5 votes :smiley:

And I’ve registered 10 more votes on other cars (including another 2 for Audi Sport quattro S1).

Fruitful day in the Suggestions Hub, 111 votes were casted on missing cars from FH4 since the last update. Naturally, models with newly opened threads saw the biggest growth, but other cars gained some points as well (e.g. Porsche 906 Carrera 6 jumping from 5 to 9 votes all of a sudden).

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Changes from the bottom to the top:
Hot Wheels Studebaker +5, TG Track-Tor +3, Subaru WRX VT15R +3, Lambo Urus Concept +1, Hot Wheels Loadstar +3, Hot Wheels Chevy LUV +3, Hoonigan Bronco +5, Tamo Racemo +2, Hoonigan G10 Fiesta +3, Hoonigan G8 Fiesta +1, Triumph TR3B +4, Rossion Q1 +4, Porsche 356 Gmund +2, MG MGA +1, Hillman Imp +3, Cadillac Escalade +3, Triumph TR7 +4, Porsche 906 +4, Ferrari 500 Mondial +1, Austin FX4 +2, GMC Typhoon +3, Jaguar C-Type +1, Saleen S5S +1, Maserati 300S +1, Vauxhall Corsa +1, Porsche 718 +1, Maserati A6GCS +1, Ferrari 512 S +1, Toyota Corolla +1, Triumph TR6 +1, Mercedes 280 SL +2, Ferrari 166 +1, Mercury Coupe +1, Triumph Spitfire +1, VW Type 3 +1, Chevy Chevelle '67 +1, HSV GTS '11 +1, Cadillac Eldorado +1, Austin-Healey +1, Mazda Cosmo +1, AMC Hornet +1, AM DB10 +1, Oldsmobile +1, AM V8 '86 +1, VW Karmann +2, Renault Clio RS 197 +1, VW Touareg +1, Talbot Sunbeam +1, Pontiac Firebird '68 +2, Ford XB Falcon +1, Koenigsegg CCX +1, Lexus IS F +1, Renault Clio V6 +1, Mazda RX-3 +1, GMC Syclone +1, Pontiac GTO Judge +1, Vauxhall VX220 +1, Mazda RX-7 '85 +1, Pagani Huayra +1, Audi quattro S1 +1, McLaren 12C +3, BMW Z8 +1, Shelby 1000 +1, Lotus Esprit V8 +1, Toyota MR2 +1, BMW 850 +2

Another active day, with 95 more votes for cars on the list. Vehicles with newly added links are climbing up the ranks quickly, there are also changes in the upper part, e.g. Quadra Turbo-R was overtaken by Vauxhall VX220 (+2 votes).

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This time from the top to the bottom:
Kia Stinger +1, Toyota MR2 +1, Lotus Esprit V8 +3, Mercedes SL65 +1, BMW Z8 +1, McLaren 12C +1, Mazda RX-7 +1, Vauxhall VX220 +2, Mercury Cougar +1, Pontiac GTO +1, GMC Syclone +1, Mitsubishi Galant +1, Renault Clio V6 +2, Porsche 928 +1, Koenigsegg CCX +1, Pontiac Firebird '68 +1, Maserati MC12 +1, Citroen 2CV +2, Talbot Sunbeam +1, Citroen DS23 +2, Pontiac Firebird '73 +1, Rover SD1 +1, Lotus Elise +1, Cadillac Eldorado +1, Chrysler Valiant +1, HSV GTS '11 +1, Terradyne +1, Jaguar XJS +1, Morgan Aero GT +1, Vauxhall Insignia +3, Shelby Monaco +1, Porsche 356 RSR +1, GMC Typhoon +3, Chevrolet Nova +1, Triumph TR7 +2, Austin FX4 +3, Rossion Q1 +3, Triumph TR3 +2, Cadillac Escalade +3, Hillman Imp +3, Hoonigan Bronco +2, Hoonigan G10 Fiesta +2, HW Studebaker +4, Porsche 356 Gmund +2, Volvo Iron Knight +1, HW Chevrolet LUV +3, HW Loadstar +3, Plymouth Atomic +1, Spania GTA +3, Subaru VT15R +3, Tamo Racemo +3, TG Track-Tor +3, Austin 7 +1, Hoonigan G8 Fiesta +3, Lambo Urus Concept +2

Series 17 is going to be Japanese themed so my predictions are:

New cars:
2023 Nissan Z

Any 4 of these recycled cars:
1995 Toyota MR2 GT
1985 Mazda RX-7 GSL-SE
1973 Mazda RX-3
1972 Mazda Cosmo 110S Series II
1974 Toyota Corolla SR5
2016 Subaru #199 WRX STI VT15R Rally Car

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Btw great post

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Source?

The game itself

“Coming soon” tab on the Series 16 Festival Playlist screen shows this:
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Coming soon tab ingame

Also at the very bottom: Push Your Driving to the Limit in #FORDzathon

Okay. Forgive me, I just woke up only two hours ago, guys. Haven’t played yet today.

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Not many votes casted today (only 33), but some interesting changes on the list. Examples:

  • It’s the first time since creating this list when Volkswagen I.D. R received any votes. Keep them coming! :wink:
  • Vauxhall Insignia is climbing up rapidly, it has got 6 votes in last two days.
  • Spania GTA doubled its vote count in the last two days, jumping from 4 to 8 votes (yeah, still not very impressive result).
  • Cars with recently opened voting threads seem to lose momentum.

I’ve marked recent changes in vote count on the list so that you can now follow them more easily :slight_smile:

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Changes from the top to the bottom:
Kia Stinger +1, Toyota MR2 +1, Lotus Esprit V8 +2, BMW Z8 +1, McLaren 12C +1, Audi quattro S1 +2, VW IDR +2, AM DBS '08 +1, Mazda RX-7 +1, Lotus Evora +1, Mercury Cougar +1, Renault Clio V6 +1, Pontiac Firebird '73 +2, AM DB10 +1, Chrysler Valiant +2, Vauxhall Insignia +3, Honda S800 +1, Mercedes 280 SL +1, Ferrari 166 MM +1, GMC Typhoon +1, Hillman Imp +1, HW Studebaker +1, Porsche 906 +1, Spania GTA +1, Subaru VT15R +1, Volvo Iron Knight +1

It was rather quiet day in the Suggestions Hub, with only 18 votes casted on missing FH4 cars in total. Two interesting changes:

  • 2008 Aston Martin DBS was overtaken by 1985 Mazda RX-7.
  • All of a sudden Hoonigan Ford Bronco jumped from 8 to 12 votes.
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Kia Stinger +1, Toyota MR2 +1, Mercedes SL65 +2, Mazda RX-7 +1, Ferrar F12 +1, AM Vanquish +1, Mercury Coupe +1, Triumph TR6 +1, GMC Typhoon +1, Hillman Imp +1, Triumph TR7 +1, Triumph TR3 +1, Hoonigan Bronco +4, Subaru VT15R +1

Sooo… to spice things up, I’ve added to the mix 51 cars that were present in Forza Horizon 3 but didn’t make it to FH4 nor FH5. There are some really strong contenders that can threaten the hegemony of Kia Stinger :slight_smile:

You’ll find those new cars easily by “[FH3]” tag next to their name. Notes:

  • I’ve excluded GT3 and Supercar V8 race cars (coming mostly with Motorsport All-Stars DLC). Let’s leave them for Forza Motorsport for now, okay? ;]
  • Like before, I’ve excluded Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Fiat, and Lancia models.
  • I know absence of Rolls-Royce and Tesla is caused by license (dis)agreements as well, but I decided to put them on the list anyway, thinking to myself: maybe PGG would be motivated to double down on efforts to bring those forgotten (?) manufacturers back if they saw clearly how many people want them? :smiley:
  • At the bottom of the list there are 4 cars that probably don’t have fitting threads in Suggestions Hub. @T10ManteoMax, can I ask you to look into it, like before? :slight_smile:

Next step could be adding to the list road legal cars from Forza Motorsport (7 and earlier) that are yet to be introduced to the Forza Horizon series… but I’m worried about the list becoming too massive. What do you think, guys?

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If you’re going to include Rolls-Royce and Tesla, you may as well include Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Fiat, and Lancia now. It made sense why you were excluding them at first, but if you’re going to start make exceptions for other brands, you may as well just include them all. Especially since there are Abarths, Alfas, and Fiats from both Horizon 3 and Motorsport 7 that never carried over to Horizon 4.

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In the case of Rolls-Royce it’s not a decision on PGs side. The brand autorities stated they don’t want to feature the cars in video games anymore.
Nothing to be done there unless this changes.

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