I thought it would be interesting to see what the community thinks about this. Forza Horizon 1 is the only one that was PEGI 12. Forza Horizon 2-5 have been rated PEGI 3 since.
Should the next Forza Horizon (if it comes) continue this way? Or go in a different direction?
Which PEGI rating should the next Forza Horizon be?
For me it can stay in PEGI 3. After all it is a racing/car game without story. I canât really see where it can upset someone to give it higher group. sidenote: I donât listen to in-game music (even when it plays), so I donât care if songs are censored or not.
So unless we get full blown story mode with swearing/nudity/drugs/etc., I donât really see a point in âgoing upâ.
Or maybe Iâm missing something with these categories?
PS. When it was announced that FH5 will be in Mexico. One of my first thoughts was âare we going to have drug smuggling missions or something like that?â. sorry to all Mexican people, but that is one of first that comes to my mind when I think about Mexico
Why? They censor the most miniscule things. Like from keywords to look up tunes and liveries to random words in songs (there are topics about that too).
It is not about word censoring (although I highly disagree with the usage of foul language), it is about the suggestive content. I donât believe in that. It is inappropriate and should not be included in âfunâ. The devs did best removing that.
This. And they actively promote it (various smash âchallengesâ and âcollectiblesâ etc.). And they like to be edgy in choice of music and other tie ins with associations with stuff that would get any of us banned.
Just be honest and rate it appropriately. If you want a squeaky clean kids game then do it. If you want something more mature then do that. Stop trying to be all things to everyone and failing across the spectrum.
âŚnot that I care one whit really. Iâm done with the franchise. FH5 is the last Iâm involving myself with for a lot of reasons including the above. Iâm almost done with FH5 for that matter but the money is spent so Iâll suck what I can out of it.
Apparently some of that keyword/tune stuff is bound up in the Xbox system. So itâs likely out of PGGâs hands (and potentially would still be censored even if the game was targeted at mature audiences).
Some of the censored words are comical, like âplayaâ (because of its colloquial usage as a substitute for âplayerâ⌠even though it means beach in Spanish and is in the name of courses).
In the âimprovementsâ category, âqueenâ used to be censored in both title and description, but that got unbanned at some point. I had to go back and rename my Queen crest vinyl group.
âPlayaâ is banned? Sheesh. I dont think ive been able to share a tune with âRacing V12â in the title. No âv1.01â either. Cant figure those out.
Donât mind me, just another day of the usual game idiocy. I think I should start a swear jar. Every time this game pushes me to curse it I drop a dollar in the jar and when I hit the price of the next game I want itâs good by and good riddance Forza. Since I wrapped up the Super Size Me FOMO 40 point menu again this week I guess thereâs one more week of FH5 for me. Two weeks if they manage to surprise me and offer a relatively bug free chore list.
Can someone from âPEGI 12 votersâ explain why they are voting for that category? I really donât know if Iâm missing something or what. What is the benefit of PEGI 12? What would be possible change?
I think opinion of this highly depends on the age of the user. A lot of older members seem to be more adverse to strong language, where as I started swearing like a sailor at 14, and that was only 9 years ago for me.
Personally, I think whatever the PEGI equivalent of Rated T for Teen would suffice enough. In other words, dialogue and language are limited to what they can say on American Network television. No need to enter HBO territory.
As for why, language in a motorsport enviroment is pretty realistic. You donât hear Max Verstappen or even team principals like Toto Wolff shying away from using language while on live television in heated situations. I mean, if the professionals have a hard time keeping it in, do you real expects twenty-somethings at a car and music festival to watch their language? I know most people here has at least lived through Woodstock and Summer of Love, and probably has a rough understanding of Burning Man and Coachella to know that a Goodwood for twenty-year-olds would not be as sophisticated as the Festival of Speed or the Revival.
Also, a higher age rating would actually be beneficial to a lot of Horizonâs presentation faults. Right now, in Horizon 5, street races donât feel illegal (which pretty much negates the point of their existence), characters are overly polite (which complete removes the sense of competition), and the music (though still mostly terrible) is made even worse by the excessive censorship of words that arenât even swears. Thereâs more I could say, but that would make this already long post even longer.
Do I expect a really raunchy episode of Saturday Night Live that has decided to through caution to the wind and ignore the FCC and everything they stand for? No. But I would like songs that donât have the word bathroom stall censored, street races to feel like actual street races, and competition that it isnât afraid to rough you up vocally every now and then.
I voted 12 mainly for this. Itâs the same as the NFS games and they donât seem to have this problem. It would make the game and dialogue more ânormalâ instead of babying us around. Just look at the answer to âWhat does Horizon mean to you?â OMG⌠Itâs like heâs trying to win a beauty pageant. I just want the characters to speak like normal people. The PEGI 3 rating doesnât allow for that. And weâll have music without unnecessarily censored words. As if it would hurt children in any way and they donât even listen THAT carefully to songs anyway.
Also we could have some actual street racing. Itâs so hypocrite now. Yes itâs a street race, itâs supposed to be illegal, there is traffic, but nothing in the slightest that indicates any illegality whatsoever to pass the PEGI 3 rating. Then why even call it a street race? The PEGI 3 rating is holding the game back imo. It can be so much more!
Forza is for Everyone. We donât need a PEGI 7 or a 12, 16, 18. PGG is doing a great job. Forza need to be PEGI 3. Microsoft is selling more Forza games if they are PEGI 3.