Best way to report bad drivers in multiplayer lobbies?

Is there a way to post replays on drivers who are deliberately wrecking people in multiplayer lobbies? I know racing accidents happen, and at times we all miss our braking point. I’m talking about drivers who continually wreck people on multiple corners throughout multiple races. I’m aware of the existing reporting system and voting to kick options, but I’m curious if there are any other options?

Thanks,

GRN HORNET

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I don’t think there is any way to administer wreckers through human intervention; there are just too many variables, time, and resources required.

On the other hand, programmatically, this would be petty straight forward… Three Strikes and you’re Ghosted.

If a car impacts another vehicle at a velocity greater than X more than 3 times, they’re Ghosted.
Where (greater than) X accounts for simple bumping and trading of paint. 3 times accounts for the true accident (late braking, hard turn, etc). Ghosted means the wrecker can still race; however, they can’t interact with other drivers and their ending score would be penalized.

There you go Turn 10, take this and prosper. I do; however, expect the 2019 Corvette ZR1 in my message center gift box when available. :wink:

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Good to see that at least someone is looking for a solution to this problem.
I think this current vote to kick system is what it is but i have the feeling that also this feature at the moment is not working like it should be.

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Note the GT, finish the race, go to player list, select player, select Report. Be prepared to enter text describing the reason for report. If you plan a lengthy comment and do not have a keypad on your controller, be ready to miss the next race.

I did this a lot in FM5 virus tag for out-of-bounds cheaters after advising them to get back in bounds. Cheaters would sometimes hold the session hostage for 20 min or more, basking in the frustration and animosity of the other players. Plenty of time to talk sense to them, encourage others to vote to kick, and describe the reporting process to other players.

In races, I pretty much never report, and rarely vote to kick. Mainly because I can’t recover from a hit fast enough to see who did it, and generally have trouble distinguishing bad intent from bad skills.

So far in FM7 I’m having good luck in the lobbies. Endurance, as usual, tends to be pretty clean. We don’t have any “blue flag” system but I can keep an eye out for faster cars and try to pull over off the driving line for them. Sometimes this too is a problem, as the best drivers go off line to pass - but mostly it works out well.

In shorter races I’m generally in the bottom three once I recover from the turn 1 mayhem, so I’m pretty much racing the 45-second clock with the trailing pack. This kind of makes us easy pickings for the lead-pack racer who lost it and now just wants to hit other drivers, but I can usually take it in stride, and will quit the lobby once I get 2 wrecker-induced DNF’s.

Unsporting behavior - such as intentionally wrecking others in online races - should be reported to Xbox Live’s Policy Enforcement Team (PET) as outlined here:

https://enforcement.xbox.com/en-US/Home/HowTo#sub-topic2-0

"To report a player that behaved in an inappropriate way or has an inappropriate name or Gamertag:

Double-tap the Xbox button on your controller to bring up the guide and select the Gamertag that you wish to report. If the player is not a friend, select Recent players from the drop-down menu or select Find someone and enter the player’s Gamertag.
From the player’s profile card, select Report or block.
Select Report.
Select one of the following reasons for the report.

Player name or Gamertag: The player’s Gamertag or real name is inappropriate.
Cheating: The player used unauthorized modifications or attempted to gain an unfair advantage in multiplayer.
Player picture: The player’s gamer picture is inappropriate.
Voice communication: The player used inappropriate, abusive, or threatening language in voice communications.
Unsporting behavior: The player didn’t show good sportsmanship.
Quitting early: The player frequently quit multiplayer games to avoid losing.

Select Add comment to provide more information. When finished, select Report."

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no there is nothing you can do. turn10 have made it clear through their idleness that wrecking and trolling is a feature of the game

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A Bonus Feature… Sweet!

Wait a minute… is this only available to VIP costumers?

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There is something you can do.

After the race ends, select the players gamertag from the lobby. Then click driver feedback option. From there you have 3 options:

  1. Report as cheating.
  2. Report for dirty driving.
  3. Compliment driver

I’m surprised nobody has mentioned this. It’s the new feature nobody knows about.

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I’m not surprised, as there is no documentation on the Driver Feedback feature anywhere.

You’d think Turn 10 would have at least put out a blog post to explain how it works, what its benefits are and so-on.

As it stands the feature is practically useless as:

  • Many people don’t know it exists.
  • People don’t know what the benefits of providing positive feedback are.
  • People don’t know what happens to players who get negative feedback, and if their punishment is immediate (preferred) or delayed (you may never see that player again anyway so why bother with reporting).
  • There’s no incentive to give either positive or negative feedback.
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Agreed. But I’m trying to get people to use it. It at least feels good knowing an intentional corner cutter can be reported directly to the game.

I’ve also been giving positive feedback too. I feel some players really deserve being commended.

But yes T10 at a minimum should at least explain why this was added and it’s benefits to players.

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That is basically what I posted. Use the Xbox Live method to report them. You’re there in the race, you can locate the gamertag right on your Xbox.

File the report.

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No this is different. You can’t give positive feedback via Xbox live reporting.

Once again this is an in-game reporting mechanism. Seems similar to Xbox live reporting, but it’s not. Jump I to multiplayer and complete a race then select a player. You’ll see what I mean.

I’m thinking this in-game reporting is something T10 can use for matchmaking eventually.

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Just report and block the guy.

If its problems that are ongoing in the lobby, save a replay, Pm you have a saved replay and the GT of the person involved to me, if I can I will try and join the lobby but dont message me every 15 minutes telling me you’ve been hit or someone just cut a corner as Ill block you, theres no guarantees Ill be able to join so the above methods outlined by Snowowl should be your first course of action and possibly consider moving lobby to give the troll time to get bored… I should only be your last option.

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Would it be a good idea to present this as an answer then?

From: RPM Swerve - In Game Reporting Griefers/wreckers OR to provide positive feedback.

After the race ends, select the players gamertag from the lobby. Then click driver feedback option. From there you have 3 options:

  1. Report as cheating.
  2. Report for dirty driving.
  3. Compliment driver

From: Snowowl -Unsporting behavior - such as intentionally wrecking others in online races - should be reported to Xbox Live’s Policy Enforcement Team (PET) as outlined here:

https://enforcement.xbox…Home/HowTo#sub-topic2-0

"To report a player that behaved in an inappropriate way or has an inappropriate name or Gamertag:

Double-tap the Xbox button on your controller to bring up the guide and select the Gamertag that you wish to report. If the player is not a friend, select Recent players from the drop-down menu or select Find someone and enter the player’s Gamertag.
From the player’s profile card, select Report or block.
Select Report.
Select one of the following reasons for the report.

Player name or Gamertag: The player’s Gamertag or real name is inappropriate.
Cheating: The player used unauthorized modifications or attempted to gain an unfair advantage in multiplayer.
Player picture: The player’s gamer picture is inappropriate.
Voice communication: The player used inappropriate, abusive, or threatening language in voice communications.
Unsporting behavior: The player didn’t show good sportsmanship.
Quitting early: The player frequently quit multiplayer games to avoid losing.

Select Add comment to provide more information. When finished, select Report."

For excessively egregious behavior, do both of the things described above AND if it’s persistent PM WindsweptDragon per his instructions:
If its problems that are ongoing in the lobby, save a replay, Pm you have a saved replay and the GT of the person involved to me, if I can I will try and join the lobby but dont message me every 15 minutes telling me you’ve been hit or someone just cut a corner as Ill block you, theres no guarantees Ill be able to join so the above methods outlined by Snowowl should be your first course of action and possibly consider moving lobby to give the troll time to get bored… I should only be your last option.

These are the tools available. They can only be effective if they are used and used properly.

I think I would also add that we should try to communicate with griefers and find out if it’s a skill issue, or a lack of understanding. I believe there are some who just get frustrated. At the same time, I have seen folks who only buy the game to be a griefer.
Anyway- my 2 cents

Peace

Note: may I copy this to paste later when the question pops up?

Thanks everyone for the replies, and special shout out to RPM Swerve for letting us all know about the new in game reporting option. I wasn’t aware of this option and I definitely plan on using this in future races to not only identify “bad apples” in multiplayer lobbies, but more importantly to identify all of the good clean racers that are out there. Also, thanks to WindsweptDragon on the offer to help identify these bad apples. Don’t worry I won’t bombard you with messages every day, however I do come across the same racers on a consistent basis that are causing these deliberate wrecks. It’s these racers that I think need to be identified and potentially punished for these types of actions.

Cheers,

GRN HORNET

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That’s awesome … let’s think about it a little.
Why not have everyone that knocks you off the track blocked, banned maybe limit them enough so they don’t want to play any more.
So that’s half the Forza sales down the pan because believe it or not children purchase this game, that will be the end of the game I think and the end of Forza. I am not a child and enjoy this game however I’m not that good at it and play it because I enjoy it. So maybe I should not purchase Forza again in the future, just in case I choose to use a car that I have never used before and ruin someone’s racing lines resulting in me being banned or limited. Maybe I would end up trying so hard to overtake and in an error of judgment take us both of the track resulting in me getting banned or limited.
Do I then delete or throw away the game?
Maybe I do throw away an £80 game because too many rules resulting in a game that’s not fun and kindly tell everyone not to bother buying it for themselves or their children. I could just go up to them an simply just say “If you crash into anyone they could get upset resulting in you or your child being banned etc”
This game is supposed to be fun which is why it’s called a game, it’s not serious. If someone knocks me off the track I tend to laugh and if it happens too many times I tend to think cheeky bugger and laugh while thinking of ways to get my revenge. That’s what it’s all about … FUN !
Forza could put in big red writing on the front cover of the game ( WARNING … Crash and get reported 3 times will get you banned or limited from This game) I don’t think too many people would be picking up the game do you? And what happens to games that fail to sell … yep you guessed it, it disappears from the shelves.
I for one like most would not have got a copy and you would not have a game to play. There could be a lot of unhappy people out there asking for their money back because of no warning on the front cover, that would go down well I think.
Ok … maybe they should have two servers, one for the professional take it over serious type and one for those that just want to have fun. A lobby just for the serious players could be a good idea, I would be happy to be banned from that lobby because I prefer to play without the worry of touching another players car.
This has to be well thought out or everyone is going to suffer, now there are some out there that just want to play like bumper cars and yes they need to be sorted. But like I said sorted carefully though.
That’s my input on it guys and hopefully I have written it in a way that shows respect as this is not a rant, happy racing to all :slightly_smiling_face::+1:

I can understand where this might concern you. However, just because people report you, using the methods prescribed above, doesn’t mean you will be blocked from playing the game.
These procedures are not, and should not be, used to deal with wrecks that happen in the normal course of racing. They are for the people, or groups of people in many incidences, who make wrecking and griefing their primary goal. Even then, when flagged usingvthese procedures, it would require some investigation to show intent.
I believe we all have an opportunity to reduce the wrecking that occurs in the normal course of racing, by reaching out and helping those who appear to be struggling. I would rather face an opponent who may beat me regularly, than one who will wreck me at every opportunity. But, stopping the intentional griefers is a small fficult task that requires some course of action. If the suggestions above can reduce the griefing even a little bit, that a good thing.

Peace

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It’s easy enough to determine whether a crash was intentional or an honest mistake. Fair players usually wait for the other driver to get back on track and retake the position if they have made an honest mistake trying to overtake, no matter the skill level. Even a quick personal apology can go a long way.

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I dont care if someone gets bumped or if someones a bad driver etc. Im only after the trolls who deliberately go out of their way to ruin other peoples games for their own enjoyment if there is any ambiguity as to their motives Ill fall on the side of its an accident.

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