And that’s already the case, they are peoples who just want to chill on a trackday, or have drift lobby, but no, you can only join race 
Related, this is why Forza Horizon 5 doesn’t have ranked play, people were getting too toxic with Forza Horizon 4 ranked and caring about points more than racing.
They should delete races and just make FH with real tracks
Race is fine, probleme is, for example, they want to keep players with fomo strategy, for the numbers.
Having differents modes to play take a part with keep players engaged with the game, so increasing numbers.
So now the MP is focused on competitive racing only, it rest nothing to do for those who don’t have any interest for that, or who would like to do something else sometimes, or just play more “chill”.
That’s close to the problems with open class oppers who disapoint players, because they’re not allowed to race on the class they want to.
That’s why I say FH with real track, 99% of the community doesn’t care about race cars. They just want to drift, cruising or race but with only road car.
They should delete all race cars and only put in MP the open class hoppers (Every class)
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I said i dont think the skill rating means anything, but i also think the ratings are top heavy. Its possible if there was more people playing there would be more seperation, but its something we’ll probably never know.
Yeah we’ll never know if there’s a separation. Like someone said, They want everyone to be a winner
Lol…if people were separated properly there would be more real winners.
Cockpit only, so multiplayer is a no go for me.
Im also cockpit view only, it is possible to be successfull in multiplayer in this mode, with plenty of wins under my belt running cockpit view and many podiums im living proof of it, i set the fov to 65 have cockpit drift cam enabled and map rear and side views to the right thumb stick, keep an eye on the mirrors and proximity arrows and it can work with a healthy dose of situational awareness, there are occasions where i get blind sided but not often as i seem to have developed a feel for where the opposition are, in the main it works well for me, its more difficult in race cars but i generally only run A class and below. Ratings currently Safety S Skill 4950
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I was S until this week when I’ve had absolute idiots intentionally slamming into me on straights causing me to get a 6 second penalties, they get no penalty. It’s happened like 10 times so my rating is now B. And I can’t get out of B because they keep wrecking me… Not sure what Turn10 changed but this is ridiculous.
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Is F -0001 an option?
Sometimes I believe that would be the most ideal rating for me. Cause the public lobby punts me out of the way when ever racing is close…
If nothing else a low rating would guarantee that I start a race in the back, away from Thrash and Crash the Smash Bros. While they are taking turns Bonking eachother, I can sneak past them and have a clean race for once!
If I can’t do that then, I’ll stick with my S - 4087. 
The system is just broken…in 2 races, you can win 2.7k
I was at 1300 skill rating today. I did a race and won. After that race, I’m 3200 skill rating. I did an other race and another win, and now I am at 4000 skill rating. 1300 to 4000 in 2 races lmao
Skill ought to be rewarded. Do good, get goods. Do more good-er, get more better-erer rewards… Its only proper.
Ain’t like you’re last name is Smash… or something… Is it?
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No fair. I’m getting all these lumps and bruises in gen-pop and you’re getting massages and encouragement in Club racing…
Its… its…
It ain’t right!
Excuse me as I cry myself to sleep.
(JK. I need to find a good group yo regularly race with.)
If you’re on Mondays around 8pm UK time, come join us (embed is outdated and can’t be edited right now, we play Forza Motorsport now).
We’ve been going for 6 years.
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Thanks. If I ever get a schedule change that allows for it, I’ll join in. I am on the other side of the Atlantic though.
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I tried the right thumb stick method and it throws me off my center. I’m pretty sure I need more awareness. I’m kind of at a plateau right now, but It will come to me eventually. Making the right thumb stick an extension of my imaging is a challenge because it’s so unnatural. Your FOV settings might help though so I’ll try it against AI when I get a chance.
Thank you for your wisdom sir!
We have Aussies joining us somehow.
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It’s almost impossible to keep my Safety Rating at S Because the system Punishes you Rather than the bad actor the skill system Needs a Nerf ASAP!! Because I Really Struggle Sometimes & other Times I feel like I’m Against very slow Players around the Corners the safety system should only affect you if you make contact with other Drivers & not when someone makes contact with you giving you a 3 or 4 second penalty for something that wasn’t your fault like spin outs someone Rejoining the track making contact unavoidable it makes the game Very unenjoyable But I’m not going to let it stop me from Trying until it gets to Frustrating thats when it’s best to take a Break