So this morning I was playing some R class and I came across something I’ve never seen before, a gamer tag with the turn 10 logo next to it where the Kings crown usually would sit.
He was cruising lobby to lobby just throwing down bans to any troll that was wrecking.
Hats off to you turn 10 and Triton for cleaning up the lobby’s! It’s good to see you guys keeping on top of the game to make it fun again!
This is awesome news. Yay, Turn 10. Ban them, ban them all…
I hope they get things cleaned up to the point we can have the limo back. There are some tracks the limo is really good on.
Good news but its too bad they just dont go in a lobby without the turn ten logo and just go undercover.LOL
Wreckers will notice this and be on good behavior but still a good start but honestly unless they have 100 people doing this daily its not going to work or make a difference.Implimantations to the game itself need to be made.Too many wreckers out there for this to work but atleast there is some acknowledgement of the problem.
Great news! Would have been nice to have a T10 guy in Cam Am last night… A pack of 4 or 5 working together … basically had to swim or die! Lol…
But what about those who don’t seem to wreck on purpose?
The ones who are just careless.
The Japanese Street Kings league was pretty horrible last night.
Glad to hear that Turn 10 is finally taking out the trash.
Sometimes they dont use their T10 branded gamertags so it pays to be nice and race fair all the time because you never know whos watching.
My take is that most skilled drivers know when a hit is intentional… we all have a miscalculation now and then resulting in an accident.
But groups roaming track pulling team hits on every car they can get to is totally different.Replays can help to review incident…and at times reveal less intention involved than it seemed on track during race…
Yep. There are groups who “travel in packs” and intentionally cause havoc. That’s easy to pick out and report. Other things, not so much. Like you said, sometimes it’s an accident or miscalculation…it still sucks, but it’s forgivable and understandable.
Last night for example, I was sitting on my couch playing and my dog ran across my lap. His leg hit the left stick on my controller and I happened to be right next to someone on a straight - I sent the guy into the wall and effectively ruined his race. From the outside, ANYONE would have thought it was intentional. Only I truly knew what happened. I obviously apologized profusely and the guy luckily understood, but I still felt bad.
I’ll reply since my name was brought up. I was cruising some hoppers last night actively racing but I also keep an eye out for the wreckers. One thing to keep in mind is that the majority of crashes are from lesser skilled players. Yes there are those that want to mess around and ruin other’s races. I did throw some guys out last night. For those wondering, they earned their bans over multiple races or seeing them intentionally wait for players. Surprisingly though a few were guys on teams. So I’m going to address that. Team guys are kinda the stewards of online racing, you guys should be setting the clean racing example not teaching the lesser skilled players to take people out in retaliation. On top of that at that skill level, you have the ability more than most to drive out of most normal collisions and at the very least make ground back up to the front. You guys/girls need to talk it out, own up to a collision if it was yours.
There are 1st, 2nd, and 3rd offenses for Bans. You will see the players that got dinged last night again. I hope they will race cleaner once their ban is lifted.
Cheers and race clean! It’s more fun!
Triton
Good job triton… glad to see the big red button still works.
To follow Triton’s comments, we’re pretty thorough when determining whether an incident was intentional, accidental, by a n00b losing control, or by a skilled player or team seeking retaliation. This is why shared replays are the best way to report an incident. Sometimes, the replay clearly shows bad behavior by a crasher. Other times, simply reviewing the replay yourself can reveal how it all began, and you might be surprised to see it was not what you thought it was.
Like Triton, I’ve reached out to several team leaders to remind their players that retaliation is not acceptable - ever. In more than one case, it was clear they were retaliating as a group against a player who accidentally hit one of their teammates - the replay showed pretty conclusively it was an accident. Retaliation just escalates things, and gets other players caught in the middle.
Another form of retaliation I’ve seen is a player purposefully hanging back to wreck a corner cutter he was angry with, then complaining to me that the corner cutter should be banned when in fact what he did could earn him a ban, too.
If you cause a wreck, let the player you wrecked pass you, even if it means you fall all the way to the back of the pack, and if you can, apologize to them in chat or in a Live message.
Keep it clean, folks, and take the high road. A clean pass is the best revenge!
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To follow Triton’s comments, we’re pretty thorough when determining whether an incident was intentional, accidental, by a n00b losing control, or by a skilled player or team seeking retaliation. This is why shared replays are the best way to report an incident. Sometimes, the replay clearly shows bad behavior by a crasher. Other times, simply reviewing the replay yourself can reveal how it all began, and you might be surprised to see it was not what you thought it was.
Like Triton, I’ve reached out to several team leaders to remind their players that retaliation is not acceptable - ever. In more than one case, it was clear they were retaliating as a group against a player who accidentally hit one of their teammates - the replay showed pretty conclusively it was an accident. Retaliation just escalates things, and gets other players caught in the middle.
Another form of retaliation I’ve seen is a player purposefully hanging back to wreck a corner cutter he was angry with, then complaining to me that the corner cutter should be banned when in fact what he did could earn him a ban, too.
If you cause a wreck, let the player you wrecked pass you, even if it means you fall all the way to the back of the pack, and if you can, apologize to them in chat or in a Live message.
Keep it clean, folks, and take the high road. A clean pass is the best revenge!
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I’m curious to know if “invisible cars” has been addressed? I’ve joined into lobbies with groups of friends and then have one or more of them not appear on my screen during the race, but they can see me, or Vice-Versa. This can obviously cause some serious race incidents to occur, such as the example I provided.
I had a race on Laguna Seca where a (random) guy in a Civic Brake checked me( & forced me off track) on corner exit of the left kink before the corkscrew. I was angry so I saved the replay to watch his telemetry to see just when he hit his brakes. TURNS OUT there was a car in front of him in the replay that WAS NOT on my screen During the Race.
So here I am running my line behind him, anticipating that he is going to make a full throttle corner exit, when in reality, he’s got a guy that he’s catching up to that he has to slow up for, and then BAM, I run into him from behind…
How are we to expected to Give/Receive clean racing and/or Apologies to people we don’t even see on the track?
Furthermore, if you want us to Save and Review all of our race incidents, Perhaps more save slots could be given to us? It might seem a little crazy, but one day I might go watch the 1000+ replays I have saved on FM4
And last, but certainly not least. I absolutely agree that a clean pass is the best revenge, or Pressuring someone into falling off their line. However, when you make that clean pass on the outside of a corner, only to be forced off by the guy who cant hold his inside line, that clean pass on the straight only to be no braked in the next corner, or you’re trailing someone who decides to hit the brakes at the 800 marker going into the Bus Stop at The Glen… THERE ISN’T EVEN AN 800 MARKER!!!
You start to understand why the faster Drivers get frustrated and Retaliate. At least in Private Public lobbiescough cough we could regulate lobbies a little better! 
As a final though I’d just like to suggest League Public Hoppers. I think we can all agree that the public lobby hoppers would be much better if they had Skill classes. At the very least, have a Pinnacle skill level lobby!
nice work triton, im sick of these idiots ruining races, i usually retreat to ghost league after putting up with rammers for too long.
ive always wondered why forza dorsnt have a similar penalty system to GT, the game detects whos responsible for a ram and cuts their power for 5 seconds. and anyone waitinng on the track (meaning theyre a lap behind) is ghosted regardless of what direction theyre going.
would stop the idiots for sure
Triton,
Props for doing this.
I have one problem in your post do. I agree and disagree on this…
“Surprisingly though a few were guys on teams. So I’m going to address that. Team guys are kinda the stewards of online racing, you guys should be setting the clean racing example not teaching the lesser skilled players to take people out in retaliation”
First your right…
2nd, it is like the real world. If rules and regulations fail, people will take matters in their own hand. Its rule of nature.
I play from FM2 and addressed this over and over again during those years.
But nothing happens. On FM4 i was sick of it and sort of got know as a payback bully. You do me, i do you by 10 times.
Crazy i know, but it worked. Patience is hard to keep if race after race you get bumped out on purpose 
FM5 in bought and played for 2 weeks… Says enough i believe…
I bought a PS4 and GT instead. To bad their multilayer sucks totally.
So bought a XB1 and FM6 causes everybody said is is better the FM5.
Never thought i would be disappointing so much for;
Anyway hope this will be effective so we can focus on good races again.
Now i just hope you guys @ T10 will adjust the philosophy when making the next game.
For instance, dont put level 1 people with level 500+ please…
Multilayer driver license???
And that is just for starters. I think if you asked the forums, people can come up with good ideas…
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Even though I know they are around on a regular basis…
This may be a bit off topic but is ramming still a ban-able offense on tag modes? I’ve been playing tag modes an awful lot lately and there are some who accidentally collide with you when you’re both at 180 MPH speeds but there are also some you repeatedly just ram you for no reason, or some who keep ramming you after you accidentally collided with them.
I was also banned for 7 days a day ago after playing tag (virus) for like 5 hours and I’ll admit I crashed into some on accident I’m fairly new to Forza and I got some back who rammed me like two or three times but I only got em back once…I think this was the cause of my ban but I’m not entirely sure…but if ramming isn’t a ban-able offense on tag modes then I’m lost on the cause of my ban. I’m just going to wait out the ban because there’s really no point in emailing forzafb@microsoft.com because I’ll get an answer after my ban is done…