Polls: FM Update 8 content feedback

[T10ManteoMax]

Feedback Request for Update 8 content in Forza Motorsport

The Forza team is interested in your feedback related to the featured content in Update 8. Note: Update 8’s weekly content concludes on June 12th while the Builders Cup Featured Tour continues through June 26th, 2024.

Please vote in the polls below and reply to the topic with details about which content mattered to you most. We use this feedback to help guide our evolving content in the future.

Please also continue to use the Suggestions Hub forum section to submit and vote on ideas related to Forza Motorsport content. This feedback topic is focused on monthly content; see our May Message to the Motorsport Community for discussion related to work on bug fixes.

Forza Motorsport - Update 8 Overview

UPDATE 8 CONTENT POLLS

1) What did you think about the content featured in Update 8?

• 1 - Strongly Disliked
• 2 - Somewhat Disliked
• 3 - Neither Disliked nor Liked
• 4 - Somewhat Liked
• 5 - Strongly Liked
• No Opinion or I haven’t experienced this content

2) What did you think about the quantity of content in Update 8?

• Too Little
• Just Right
• Too Much
• No Opinion or I haven’t experienced this content

FEATURE CONTENT

3) What do you think about the refresh of Maple Valley signage with Mobil 1?

• 1 - Strongly Dislike
• 2 - Somewhat Dislike
• 3 - Neither Dislike nor Like
• 4 - Somewhat Like
• 5 - Strongly Like
• No Opinion or I haven’t used this content

4) What do you think about the added pit exit barrier at the Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course?

• 1 - Strongly Dislike
• 2 - Somewhat Dislike
• 3 - Neither Dislike nor Like
• 4 - Somewhat Like
• 5 - Strongly Like
• No Opinion or I haven’t used this content

5) What do you think about leaderboards being reset after changes to tracks (such as Mid-Ohio and Le Mans)?

• 1 - Strongly Dislike
• 2 - Somewhat Dislike
• 3 - Neither Dislike nor Like
• 4 - Somewhat Like
• 5 - Strongly Like
• No Opinion or I haven’t used this content

6) What do you think about the Tire Wear Scalar added to Free Play and Private Multiplayer?

• 1 - Strongly Dislike
• 2 - Somewhat Dislike
• 3 - Neither Dislike nor Like
• 4 - Somewhat Like
• 5 - Strongly Like
• No Opinion or I haven’t used this content

7) What do you think about matchmaking in Featured Multiplayer since the Safety and matching changes in Update 8?

• 1 - Strongly Dislike
• 2 - Somewhat Dislike
• 3 - Neither Dislike nor Like
• 4 - Somewhat Like
• 5 - Strongly Like
• No Opinion or I haven’t used this content

8) What do you think about the selected car performance rebalancing for Featured Multiplayer Spec Series races?

• 1 - Strongly Dislike
• 2 - Somewhat Dislike
• 3 - Neither Dislike nor Like
• 4 - Somewhat Like
• 5 - Strongly Like
• No Opinion or I haven’t used this content

9) What do you think AI Drivatar braking behavior since the Update 8 changes?

• 1 - Strongly Dislike
• 2 - Somewhat Dislike
• 3 - Neither Dislike nor Like
• 4 - Somewhat Like
• 5 - Strongly Like
• No Opinion or I haven’t used this content

10) What do you think about weather condition consistency and transitions in Featured Multiplayer races since the Update 8 changes?

• 1 - Strongly Dislike
• 2 - Somewhat Dislike
• 3 - Neither Dislike nor Like
• 4 - Somewhat Like
• 5 - Strongly Like
• No Opinion or I haven’t used this content

CAR CONTENT

11) Which of the new cars do you anticipate using most in the future?

• 2019 Ginetta G40 Junior (Spotlight)
• 2015 Porsche Cayman GTS (Spotlight)
• 2019 Elemental RP1 (Spotlight)
• 2011 BMW 1 Series M Coupé (Reward)
• 2019 Porsche #70 Porsche Motorsport 935 (Reward)
• No Opinion

12) What do you think about the Spotlight and Reward cars added in Update 8?

• 1 - Strongly Dislike
• 2 - Somewhat Dislike
• 3 - Neither Dislike nor Like
• 4 - Somewhat Like
• 5 - Strongly Like
• No Opinion or I haven’t used these cars

EVENTS - CAREER

13) What did you think about the Builders Cup Featured Tour - Track Toys Tour content theme in Update 8?

• 1 - Strongly Disliked
• 2 - Somewhat Disliked
• 3 - Neither Disliked nor Liked
• 4 - Somewhat Liked
• 5 - Strongly Liked
• No Opinion or I didn’t experience these events

14) Which of the Featured Tour series car and track combinations did you like most?

• Ginetta Juniors
• Weekend Warriors
• Kit Caterhams
• Track Toys
• No Opinion or I didn’t experience these events

15) What did you think about the race length for the events in the Featured Tour?

• Too Short
• Just Right
• Too Long
• No Opinion or I didn’t experience these events

16) What did you think about the value of earning the 2019 Porsche #70 Porsche Motorsport 935 for completing the Featured Tour?

• Too Low
• Just Right
• Too High
• No Opinion or I didn’t experience these events

17) What did you think about the Open Class Tour - Track Cars content?

• 1 - Strongly Disliked
• 2 - Somewhat Disliked
• 3 - Neither Disliked nor Liked
• 4 - Somewhat Liked
• 5 - Strongly Liked
• No Opinion or I didn’t experience these events

18) Which of the Open Class Tour series car and track combinations did you like most?

• D Class
• C Class
• B Class
• A Class
• No Opinion or I didn’t experience these events

19) What did you think about the length of races in the Open Class Tour?

• Too Short
• Just Right
• Too Long
• No Opinion or I didn’t experience these events

20) What did you think about the value of earning the 2011 BMW 1 Series M Coupé for completing the Open Class Tour?

• Too Low
• Just Right
• Too High
• No Opinion or I didn’t experience these events

EVENTS – RIVALS

21) Which of the Rivals events car and track combinations did you like most in Update 8?

• Forza GT division at Silverstone GP Circuit
• Ginetta G40 Junior at Brands Hatch Indy
• Porsche Cayman GTS at Mugello Club
• Caterham Superlight R500 at Grand Oak Club
• Elemental RP1 at Lime Rock Full
• VIP - Forza Tourinc Cars at VIR Full
• Celebrate Senna’s Legacy With McLaren - McLaren Senna at Silerstone GP
• No Opinion or I didn’t experience these events

EVENTS – FEATURED MULTIPLAYER

22) What did you think about your overall experience in Featured Multiplayer racing in Update 8?

• 1 - Strongly Disliked
• 2 - Somewhat Disliked
• 3 - Neither Disliked nor Liked
• 4 - Somewhat Liked
• 5 - Strongly Liked
• No Opinion or I didn’t experience these events

23) Which of the Multiplayer Spec Series car and track combinations did you like most?

• Lotus 3-Eleven Spec Series
• Early Factory Racecar Series
• Mazda Miata Spec Series
• Modern Factory Racecar Series
• No Opinion or I haven’t used this feature

24) What did you think about the Multiplayer Spec Series content themes?

• 1 - Strongly Disliked
• 2 - Somewhat Disliked
• 3 - Neither Disliked nor Liked
• 4 - Somewhat Liked
• 5 - Strongly Liked
• No Opinion or I didn’t experience these events

25) What did you think about the race length for the events in the Multiplayer Spec Series?

• Too Short
• Just Right
• Too Long
• No Opinion or I didn’t experience these events

26) Which of the Multiplayer Open Series car and track combinations did you like most?

• D Class
• C Class
• B Class
• A Class
• S Class
• R Class
• P Class
• X Class
• No Opinion or I didn’t experience these events

27) What did you think about the race length for the events in the Multiplayer Open Series?

• Too Short
• Just Right
• Too Long
• No Opinion or I didn’t experience these events

Thank you for your feedback. Please reply with any additional comments about the featured content in Update 8.

[Lens007888]

Update 8 was all good for the short time it was running until the Hotfix 8.1 dropped and crashed the game every time you went back to the main menu.

The BMW 1 Series felt like a port from FM7

Had fun in the A Class Open in MP, that was about the highlight for the month and Update 8

[AnakalaRon]

The Ginetta was the one high point of the whole update. Too bad it was only used in one series and on MP race.

[Jogimus]

This time I did not play at all… just not enough interesting content. Just checked if they fixed paint vs. vinyls glossiness difference → not, closed the game…
Game feels like it is in somekind of limbo for SP, nothing major upgade is happening and game just stays boring… and FM series was my top favorite game years ago…

[AnakalaRon]

You chose wisely grasshopper.

[Pooya995016]

1- we need more race cars. add LMH & LMDH cars ASAP.
2- more QoL features like the tire wear multiplier are welcomed! for next time, we need radar.

[SolidStDriver]

I enjoyed the Ginetta and Elemental in the Tours. I did not enjoy the Caterham Tour.

The Caterham mirror placements were frustrating. I never could see the corner apex, or even traffic sometimes, to the right. If this was a kit car, there is no way I would willingly place my mirrors in such a location during construction. Anyway, I completed the events (as best I could), and moved on.

The Ginetta has very nice detail. But a few bugs.

1. Almost zero engine sound from cockpit view.
2. RPM LEDs on the steering wheel don’t adjust to match the new shift point after applying engine upgrades.
3. After viewing the engine in the garage, backing out from the close-up engine view automatically closes the hood.

The BMW reward car was a bit disappointing. No opening hood, no engine. The interior felt like the surfaces had minimal texture detail. A fun drive, however.

The Porsche 935 reward car, nicely detailed. It’s detail, like the Ginetta’s, make the BMW reward car feel dated.

And as ever… I feel it’s a massive shame that these Tours are being removed from a racing game that has so little single player content.

With regard to the AI changes… I can race much closer to them now, than before. Still the brake lights come on in places they shouldn’t. Incidents of AI pushing and spinning my car are much reduced (but still can happen).

But AI work remains. The AI will very often just leave the track (or drive straight into walls). They never really challenge me much, even often refusing to pass when I make a mistake.

I would suggest not being hesitant about programming the AI to pass me when I’ve made a mistake. The worst that will result is me finishing lower. And why is my repeating the race trying for a better result bad? My spending more time in the game is good, right?

My finishing lower due to my own mistakes, and then trying again and doing better is, for me… highly motivating and naturally engaging.

[UltimatX7501]

A.I is better but needs more improvement.

Almost all races too short except 17 minute around races in Multiplayer. Including career races.

I think that BMW not a good choice for being a reward car. Better we get Porsche GT3RS 2024… Most waiting car by Porsche fans rn. Why a old non iconic cayman GTS instead of 2024 GT3RS with DRS feature? Don’t forget about DRS feature when you added GT3RS.

Multiplayer matchmaking needs more improvement. Not good but better than before I guess.

Penalties still garbage. Getting worse with every update I guess. A big fix needed.

More Le Mans specs for Multiplayer and Career.

Numbers disappearing from gauge sometimes again. Needs a fix.

Game turns to 60Hz while I’m in 120 in XSX. Happens on every practice/qualifying/race start. I have to press home menu on controller. Not even pause button.

[KTR0N_0001]

Man the Caterham handled terribly. What an awful car.

AI is better but still needs a lot more. They still can’t drive off the main line or near the player.

[PJTierney]

As usual, I don’t do the Single Player content (AI can’t match the dynamism of a human opponent) so no opinion on those.

My Club was primarily in slower Featured Multiplayer series this month, where the racing was generally quite good. Specifically we raced in:

• Ginetta G40 Junior Spotlight
• Mazda Miata Spec
• D-Class Open
• C-Class Open (tonight)

My one concern was the scheduling, as noted here:

Featured Multiplayer - Make Start Times Consistent Week-on-Week

Hi there, just raising a small issue that has caused a little frustration within my little Forza Motorsport community. One concern I have is that sometimes the start times are inconsistent from week to week. My club meets up at 20.00 BST (12.00 PST) every Monday to race in specific Featured Multiplayer series each week (this week it was E, next week it’s the Ginetta G40 Junior). The racing is almost always very clean and lots of fun. Normally, entry for a race closes at 20.05, with race s…

Tyre wear multiplier in Private Multiplayer is an excellent addition, but more needs to be done for Private Multiplayer racing to be viable:

• Ability to apply and limit players to Spec Series builds
• Ability to lock all drivers to the same car/tune as the host (or for players to “borrow leader’s car” like in Horizon)
• Ability to host practice and qualifying
• Ability to set rolling starts

@AnakalaRon

The Ginetta was the one high point of the whole update. Too bad it was only used in one series and on MP race.

Agreed, the Ginetta is an excellent addition and that Spotlight Series was a ton of fun.

“Slow racing” can be great in Forza as the racing tends to be cleaner.

[BigJim51]

Instability of server connection prevents me from enjoying the game. It became too risky to get in practice in Open Class Tour. I used to spend way longer in practice sessions than in racing. Unfortunately, some crashes and lots of server connection issues pushed me to Skip Practice. In addition, I avoided replaying OTC.

The server disconnect was always there since launch. But since update 6 it occurs more frequently.

[Scubadubba6524]

Something that i don’t understand: Why not re-draw the limits just on that part of the track on mid-ohio instead of slapping the concrete wall? Actually i do and the answer is time.

So… since the racetracks weren’t actually build from the ground up why not at least try and mitigate some of these mistakes where you can? Instead you’ve made it worse by placing a wall where there isn’t one. Might seem like a small issue but then we have players being very vocal about inaccuracies and the artistic approach with the environments. (raceflags,trees ect…)

On one hand you’re updating maple valey with some actual branded ads, improving the asthetics. And on the other hand you’re messing up with mid-ohio, ruinning the asthetic and the more “grounded” approach, which players do care about. But do they? Because i see 0 complaints about this particular issue. I mean if you want accuracy, demand accuracy.

[Scubadubba6524]

Btw: Why place a bunch of trees where in real life there aren’t any at a specific spot? Okay you’d say that’s the artistic approach. But also more trees = more things that need to be rendered right?

Why not place less and improve the performance? And use that extra bit of needed optimizations on other parts of the map instead? For example i could go onto the Nurburgring Nordschleife and see many areas where there aren’t any shadows being casted. (on the sidetrack enviroments) And that’s just from a surface level observation.

[Scubadubba6524]

About safety and skill rating:

I was at S rank. Falled into A. Played a bunch of races. One time i got a 4 seconds penalty as i was trying to avoid an accident. The thing is: i opened and closed the menu in order to get ghosted and avoid the collusion and i did avoid it, but i still received the penalty.

At some point i do another event, i got a 1 sec penalty and after the race i was thrown into B safety rating. Then i did another race and i got back to A safety rating. So wasn’t it the system supposed to take double the amount of races played before a new rating is established? Then why am i so easily loosing and gaining back my rank? Lack of players or something to do with the system itself?

[Draugnimir]

Sadly, I’m disappointed with Update 8. I expected more features and content from update we’ve waited five weeks for.

AI is better, yes, but only slightly. While traffic jams at some corners are finally gone, opponents still regulary brake where they shouldn’t, mainly because of their frustrating inability to overtake anything on straights. Also they still happen to ram others (especially player’s car) too often.

New cars are a mixed bag. Ginetta turned out to be surprisingly fun (minus the very quiet engine sound in cockpit view). Recycled BMW 1M as a reward car is a mistake. Porsche Cayman GTS seems totally redundant since we already have the 718 Cayman GTS (and 718 Cayman GT4 RS). Elemental Rp1 is a nice addition but Forza Horizon 5 has many more requested modern cars to be brought from. And Porsche 935 is something I want to drive badly but still have some races to complete before I can finally get it.

As for other changes in the update, I don’t really care about them, although I appreciate adding tire wear settings to Free Play. And perhaps I’ll try multiplayer again when improved matchmaking will be matched with improved FRR.

Anyway, I hoped that modest Update 8 could be something like calm before the storm, as release date of Update 9 was lined with Xbox Games Showcase… but I guess I’m expecting too much since Forza wasn’t featured in the show at all

P.S. Did I miss the feedback thread for Update 7 somewhere? Because I wanted to write there how disappointed and frustrated I was with inability to use the Nissan Silvia I payed for in Retro Racer Tour…

[PizzaEnjoyer685]

@Draugnimir

P.S. Did I miss the feedback thread for Update 7 somewhere?

Polls: FM Update 7 content feedback

Feedback Request for Update 7 content in Forza Motorsport The Forza team is interested in your feedback related to the featured content in Update 7. Note: Update 7’s weekly content concluded on May 29, 2024. Please vote in the polls below and reply to the topic with details about which content mattered to you most. We use this feedback to help guide our evolving content in the future. Please also continue to use the Suggestions Hub forum section to submit and vote on ideas related to Forza …

[Draugnimir]

I didn’t expect it to come a month later. Thanks!

[EamonEejit]

Mid Ohio is new to FM8, so it was built from the ground up, rather than ported. However, that’s even less of an excuse for such a basic mistake.

Seeing how long it took to implement this change, I’m not optimistic that any meaningful improvements are forthcoming, though if they somehow turn things around I will be delighted.

[EamonEejit]

The BMW Onesie was the first car I got in FM5, so it’s at least that old.