Thanks for posting this, I will try it out tomorrow and compare it with what I came up with. A bit different but I was looking for a 720 DOR…will see how much different it feels in both 900 and 720 and Also compare it to my current 720 I will let you know what I think…again Thanks for posting.
Thanks DTD. It’s still a work in progress. I may have to dial FFS back a bit. We will see. I just ran it with 720 and I might actually prefer it. Not quite as smooth but easier to control and aim. Thanks for the prompt!
I have to agree that after the update going back to 900 and 0-100 feels much smoother on the CSW V2.5. Going to play around with a few other settings and see what effect it has.
Did the FM7 update today and revisited the BMW M8 GTE. I’ll have to say it felt a bit more responsive to steering inputs. I was able to adjust the center spring up a bit also without any oscillation. Finally just lowered the Mech Trail a bit so the ABS wasn’t so abrupt, and I was totally pleased with it. G920 at 900 DOR. Completely transforms FM7 as a game worth playing. Once the “Save by car class” becomes a reality, it will actually be very practical.
Vibe 98
FFB gain 72
Align 97
Mech 170
Pneu 118
Road 180
Damp 65
C Sprg 10
Rot 900
ST Lin 44
So I’ve done a little more testing here’s some more of my thoughts:
Damper is far less important now after the update which is a good thing. Even with very high FFB, the wheel will oscillate but not to the point where the car goes out of control. Previously a bit of damper was needed to prevent this from happening. Damper is still useful, especially when traveling under 13 KMH but it’s not so much required now.
I don’t however like how ABS feels with the new FFB which is a shame. I don’t usually use ABS but when I turned it on for testing, the wheel jerks & shakes very harsh when braking. It’s a real shame because I think the FFB really lends itself to having extremely high Mechanical Trail & Aligning Torque, but having both these settings high is a real detriment when using ABS so it’s almost like a double edge sword. Thankfully for me I don’t use ABS so it’s not so much a problem but if someone does, they’ll have to sacrifice the Mechanical Trail a slight bit.
I’m going to do a bit more testing before giving my settings, but I’m getting there at a reasonable pace.
I’ve been having some more fun with the latest FFB and the 2019 GT3 RS wheel feel on the TX458 wheel is just superb, it really does feel like the real car. Just as in the real GT3 RS there is a slight indication of understeer before the car oversteers, the move into oversteer is progressive and can be caught relatively easily as long as the car isn’t way over the limit. The feel is so good I could drive laps at the Nordschleife all day and I didn’t think I’d ever be writing that about Forza 7 on the wheel.
2019 GT3 RS Forza vs Real World Nordschleife Record Lap
For fun I wanted to see how closely the Forza GT3 RS could match the real world Nordschleife 6:56 record lap. Ultimately the real car has slightly more grip and higher apex speeds than the Forza car, the Forza GT3 RS in turn has slightly higher top speed on the main straight which makes up the difference. For around 90% of the lap they are as good as identical.
Truly impressive and once you find settings that feel dialled in for you the level of trust in the cars increases and lap times get faster. All my 'ring lap times are faster with the latest FFB and the cars are noticeably more stable under braking on the wheel too. I’ve run this scenario in other similar games too and they are all now remarkably similar, again I didn’t think Forza wheel feedback would be as close to the other leading games as it now is.
Just a little trivia, I actually make realistic tunes for cars using real world data in Forza 7 & one of those is the GT3 RS. I went so far as to find the actual real life spring rates of the car & plugged them into the game. If you ever want to try the time just hmu on here.
Funny thing though when doing research there’s a few peculiar things. No. 1 the rear wing on the GT3 RS isn’t adjustable like it is IRL & No. 2 the GT3 RS actually produces more downforce that the GT2 RS irl… it’s some crazy car.
Anyways the top speed in Forza is actually petty accurate to irl. It’s just that irl, they added a lot more downforce to the car for the ring time.
Thanks Evan, that makes a lot of sense with the downforce. There was just no way I could seem to match those apex speeds in some corners. We were discussing this earlier today and thought it might have been a special set of tyres. A little like the tyres run on the Civic Type R for it’s 'ring lap that were just labelled Bridgestone and had no other branding along with the roll cage that didn’t add any rigidity…according to Honda! These 'ring records are as much a PR stunt as anything so I’m not surprised the car was specifically set up for the attempt. Good fun all the same and close enough for me, especially with the improved FFB.
May I ask, what tire pressures you’re using? That sounds like how my GT3 in Horizon 4 was behaving, until I lowered the front tires to 23 psi and raised the rear to 33. A variant of that, with according changes in the rest of your tune, should pick up some time and quell the “undesteer, then oversteer” behaviors. It will just grip like crazy everywhere until you lift off the gas too suddenly.
After my latest setting I feel the same way mark…I really enjoy FM7 even more now…I have a few world wide 5th places and better and over 40 top 20 spots…I only hope more find the settings they are looking for. Doing my best to help others with that but everyone has a different idea of what it should feel like and it’s hard to make everyone happy with the same set up…
That is great with the LB times and places going Dan. I’ll be back in the Fanatec fold from late April onwards too.
I agree, I’m always happy to share my settings and help others but once another person is holding the wheel it all becomes so subjective. Trying a few of the shared settings here as a baseline and then spending time with a well known car and track combination to dial in the wheel to person preference is about the best thing people can do now.
As a group of wheel using friends we had a huge amount of fun in a Nordscheife ‘Meet Up’, basically an online track day, this afternoon running around in B, A and S class for a few laps at a time. The verdict was the we haven’t enjoyed Forza this much for years!
Oh if anyone has any settings for the Logitech G920 wheel please post them up, we have a couple of our group using them and I haven’t seen any settings for the latest update.
FACR Mechanical, I looked back at that again when updating my list, but unless I’m missing something, the video (which is very useful!) still shows a last-updated date of December 2018. I tried to find something on the FACR channel posted after the February update, but failed. Do you know of a post-Feb update to those settings? I did check, and the settings displayed in the video still match what I posted in my original compilation (and they are what I’m currently driving with).
That one I believe you are referring to is from FACR DL Tuning and I think they are 2 separate members of the FACR group but each have a different make wheel ( one a G920 and one a Thrustmaster I think, and Different wheels have different settings so they both have posted settings for appropriate wheels. Depending on people’s preference somethings the opposite settings work better as a baseline to start tinkering with the settings but usually stay with similar make set up.
Epic quote here. Just to clarify, I was originally quoting FACR Mechanical only because he had suggested the youtube link as a source to update the list of G920 settings. But I’ve searched high and low, and my google-fu is failing me. I can only find Dave Lacey’s original December video/settings. If anyone comes across a version he’s updated since February, please post it here!
I just wanted to thank you personally for posting your settings, I’m using a fanatec CSW2.5 with the latest beta firmware and they are actually amazing
Thanks for helping out us wheel users…