Just curious, do you think races would be more or less balanced if races were car category/HP limited instead of relying solely on Performance Index ratings?
perfomance index is working well, the problem is that perfomance index works on different set of rules that we are.
perfomance calculated is with:
-100% fuel [50 to 400 kg difference]
-“white” rpm range [many engines can go over redline to extend power band]
-default aero [we all know that max front aero is faster… be its max/max or max/min]
-its calculated on specific imaginary track so there will always be faster cars on full grip/full speed tracks]
-default suspension setup… [some cars gain a lot from weird min-max values like p550]
Think I saw you yesterday Stingray. Looked like you’d done a good job with the tune on that 918. I just managed to sneak through the pack a bit easier.
That was a nice race indeed, your Monza with TT V8 really had bizarrely more torque than my porsche, but over a whole lap we were very close in terms of lap time.
After the race I also gave my Monza a V8. That made the car much more fun on more circuits. Normally I only do that when the standard engine can’t reach the class top, but now I’m working on giving more cars an engine swap.
Okay. New week, new group of cars to customize. This time Week 4 – Modern Hypercar, Max 900 PI.
R900 is another favorite of mine. Unfortunately, there are few longer races to be found with this type of class. It would be fantastic if Turn 10 would expand the multiclass category with the R900 class. That it rotates with the C500 class, for example.
The fun of the longer races for me is in tuning on Sport tires. They do not have the upper hand in the short races, but because they do not need a pit stop in the longer races and are sometimes just as fast or slightly slower in terms of lap time, driving on Sport tyres makes victory more achievable than Race tyres anyway.
Let me also start with the bad news first, the 2021 Lamborghini Countach LPI 800-4 didn’t make it to R900. I did tune it for S800. There it is now a much too heavy, but fantastically beautiful and drivable car. The 2019 Lamborghini Sián FKP 37 will also remain in S800.
Furthermore, there are some less interesting cars that also can’t be in the R900 class, no one cares, no one drives these cars anyway and they are totally useless in the game. (I think this is just an opinion). These are:
2020 Automobili Pininfarina Battista
2016 NIO EP9
2019 RAESR Tachyon Speed
That means that all other cars are in the R900 class. I’ve already upgraded them all to the class, unfortunately I haven’t been able to tune them all yet or adjust the older tunes to my new specs. This is because of something trivial called life.
I’m going to do my best to tune them as soon as possible, but it may be that they are not all in there yet.
This is the complete list of cars that have all been or will be tuned for The Modern Hypercar Series. All on Sport tires without Forza Aero.
Again there are some very good ones, the funny thing is that some seem useless in terms of specs, but in terms of lap times and racecraft they really aren’t.
Which cars are they? Go search and experiment yourself, that’s what the game is for, and who knows, you might see me in a very weird car in a lobby and we have a nice race.
2018 Apollo Intensa Emozione
2023 Aston Martin Valkyrie
2019 Aston Martin Valhalla Concept Car
2019 Bugatti Divo
2018 Bugatti Chiron
2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
2020 Koenigsegg Jesko
2017 Koenigsegg Agera RS
2015 Koenigsegg One:1
2013 Lamborghini Veneno
2021 McLaren Sabre
2018 McLaren Senna
2021 Mercedes-AMG Mercedes-AMG ONE
2016 Pagani Huayra BC
2009 Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster
2021 Rimac Nevera
2019 Rimac Concept Two
2019 Zenvo TSR-S
So.. Small update on the cars. I keep saying proudly that they finish a race without a pit stop and that that is the big advantage. Well. I get some feedback that this is not a problem in terms of tire wear, but that some cars including the Agera RS cannot take enough fuel for a whole race!!
The Veyron can complete a (very fast) race at Le Mans. The Divo and Chiron are on the edge. Haven’t tried them myself yet, but I like to hear from people if they dare to take the gamble and if it works.
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The Koenigsegg One did 11 laps of Mugello with the centrifugal Viper V10 with slightly over 1 lap remaining fuel from starting at 100%.
So, tracks with a higher average speed and thus more distance covered might be problematic. Wouldn’t bet on it at Le Mans.
Bigger issue was tire wear. I was losing 7.5 seconds over the last two laps. Thus, a strong meds/meds or no stop streets strategy would’ve been a challenge.
Gonna check out the cars with streets available. Might be the go-to cars
The One:1 is a beast though. Drove it on Bathurst today, nothing came close, tire wear isn’t a problem there. Mugello is a track that has more tire wear, maybe a car with less weight works better? Think your not going to find a lot of cars that have Street tires in R Class, but i’m curious what you come up with.
I also updated the Agera RS with another engine, it will go the distance now, It surprises me how capable all the Koenigsegg’s (i think?) are in R900 with a engine swap. They are awesome cars.
The only useful streets cars seem to be the Zonda Cinque for power tracks and the Valhalla for high wear tracks.
Zonda full aero
RWD no aero Valhalla
Both worked well and no thought wasted about saving tires.
A sport tires build would need to gain at least 5 seconds on the Valhalla over the race to stay ahead.
I saw you driving that one at Kyalami. Couldn’t do the race. The car can only be upgraded one way to get to R900, my stats for a lap time were low 41’s in the fuel screen.
I cannot make it work though. Great setup and drive. You can make it hook up.
Retuned it now as RWD instead of 4WD, is that the way forward?
Great lap times. The difference in handling is near to nothing right? Will have a look myself if I have the time. Most cars struggle on the last lap or so, but I find most of the time sports wins compared to race. Street have the advantage on the last laps. So you’re right it’s faster. But it depends on the circuit
The One was fine at Nurburgring. Minor tyre wear last lap only and was within 0.3 of my fastest lap.
Sunset however looked like it would need a pit stop. 100% fuel was one lap short on the predictor. Didn’t try it now but will test it tomorrow. Edit - tested and the fuel will last the whole race. Tyre wear was moderate last lap but only lost about 4 seconds, so nothing major.
Both Paganis are great options for this series. Huayra has awful brakes though!
Valkyrie is really good at handling tracks (more than a meme)!
The Valkyrie is indeed a good car. I just couldn’t get it to rotate properly at first. Fortunately, that was solved. That brings me to the next problem…
I have to re-tune all the cars. I can and am now applying the lessons I learned from the Valkyrie to other cars with fantastic results. The cars now have a much better front end, with maybe 3% less traction out of a corner. They might be a bit more difficult to drive, but I think I’ve figured out how the real fast tunes are put together. The difficult part is in throttle control out of the corners, but TC (sport) can always help you with that if you can’t do it yourself (yet). I heard a lot of people on the forum saying that these are exploits that can’t be done in a real setup, I never tune my cars to extremes and always to real world ideas, the adjustments are really not that extreme and are a game changer for many cars and competitive racing.
From now on all cars will be tuned like this. That doesn’t mean that the old tunes aren’t good, they are just a lot better now. The Walhalla and Zonda on street tires have been added and tuned according to the new logic, I don’t think I have time to adjust many other hypercars at the moment. I will do the next race series again, so you will hear from me about that soon.
I suspect the Zonda is better on sports. It seems to have really good tyre wear compared to other Hypercars and I haven’t come close to encountering problems with wear using it, even on some higher wear circuits (that said I haven’t tried Hakone which is notorious for high wear but Jockelzockt looks to have done so without a problem).
Huayra has actually slightly better tire wear than the Zonda. Last lap on Hakone with the Zonda was tough - but with how not competitive this series is, it just doesn’t matter…
To be fair, you had Shrek in one of those Hakone races and he’s one of the best R class drivers in the game. Most races are relatively low quality but there’s some decent drivers floating around.