"Musclecars Suck" - point of view

Hey all, first post, but long-time driver in Forza, and the real world on real tracks.

In the beginning, I was all about American made, because my Mom’s side of the family has worked in the automotive industry, Ford in particular, since its inception. My Dad, bought a 1969 Dodge Charger RT back in 71… traded it for a truck back in 74 :smiley:

I had a 1969 El Camino with it’s big small block that could run low 11s at Pamona, and then after some re-tuning could also almost (never could get her there) grab at +1 G in the skid. Mind you, just like in the game, the stock geometry, shocks, and springs did NOT get her there. It took a bunch of work, but so rewarding doing it. The most rewarding thing about that car, as a driver, actually came when I de-tuned her timing a little, and changed out her rear 4.11 gears for an Impala’s 2.90-somethings :smiley: all for $150 at the swap meet. She was still fast, more than fast enough on the freeway, and yet now could get a somewhat reasonable 12 mpg with her 3-speed non-overdrive automatic… if I could keep my foot out of her.

Then I got to see that low 11s in the quarter are STILL low 11s in the quarter being driven every day. How did I learn this?

I was beat getting on the freeway. :smiley: we never did go above 75-80 mph or so, but I and my big small block wanted to flex my muscle at this cute little Volkswagen Bettle that had revved at me. He practically blew the doors off of me. Turns out, even though he was a 1965 Beetle on the outside, he was more akin to a stripped out Porsche GT2 911 on the inside!

I should have paid more attention to those wheels.

10 years later, (long story) I lost my Elky. Something I swore would never happen, but in the end life and reality has a funny way with things.

long story short of it - I’ve been in RX-7s (my favorite Japanese car), Nissan Skylines (maybe my other favorite Japanese car), Aston Martins, Jaguars, Ferraris, Lamborghini (what a fun honeymoon that was!) Porsches, and one BMW, and quite a few VW Beetles since then. I’d happily own any of them. I’ve also been in my buddy’s HEMI Superbee, a Roadrunner, Barracuda, Mustangs old and new, Camaros, etc. I’d happily own most of them too. Some were too radical for my taste, and plenty of both import and American modern cars don’t add up to anything that’s ever been hand-built. It’s just a fact.

but all of those have price-tags that reflect being hand-built as well. :wink: Be they a custom 1956 Ford F-100, a numbers matching Shelby GT500KR, or a Ferrari California or Aston Martin One-77.

not to sound cliche now, after all these years… but a hand-built 10 second car that can stop, turn, and accelerate hard is still a 10 second car that can blow the doors off of almost anything else in its county. I live out in the country now, surrounded more by King Ranches and Laramie Longhorns. Needless to say, when I saw that C7 drive by, all gorgeous in whatever they call “Marina Blue” now, yeah… I almost crashed. It was the same that day the black Ferrari drove through town on its way to the Grand Canyon.

I don’t get the “this brand is better than that brand because I say so” stuff. I’ll happily let a Ferrari, Porsche, Aston Martin, McLaren (Lord if I ever see one of those again) or a Beetle happily park next to me and my now… 1 ton GMC truck 4x4, or my old Barracuda, or my F5 1965 “coupe” lol :D. Personally, I love the sound of American V8s… but a Ferrari V8 or V10 ain’t bad either. Neither is a cute little 2100cc sticking in the back of a Spyder or a Baja Bug.

I just enjoy the cars. And as Jeremy Clarkson said in Forza 4’s intro… “we’re an endangered species, you and me.”

As for “too many muscle cars, or too many Ferraris” (is there really such a thing as either? YouTube goes seem to think so, scary) I’ll take all the cars I can get in any Forza game. Or my barn, for that matter too. :wink: