Or, you know, you’re completely wrong.
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Games are surely going to grow, no stopping that. However its a good thing to be honest, but hard on slow internet users like me. I moved to PC after the PS3 launched. The one game that has haunted me was Forza, i wanted to play it so bad. I was stuck with GT bc i refused to by an xbox for one game. Thats my own preference, and my own doing. I cannot express how happy i am that i will be able to play Forza Motorsports. I have waited sense its first release, now i have that chance. ( i did play it a little at a friends house one time)
Anyway, I read over the things you guys are talking about, and really im kinda lost. So for me as a new player, ill discover this as content is released, i guess. I understand the veterans though, as gamers, it wont be the last time we dont get everything we want right? So for me, Im excited as a PC gamer to finally have Forza. 100gbs will probably take me 2 days to download, hopefully we will get a pre-release install.
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any chance that we can download the update before the game comes out for the people who are buying the disc version
with the disc version they cant check if you have the game until you insert it in the consolle, so no chanche to pre download it
If you take the time to read the entire write up you will see that they said it is possible to play from day one with the disc and download the update afterwards.
-k
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You have to be negative nowadays!!!
No, you don’t. You choose to be negative no one forces you to be so.
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I´m not negative but many others are, i´m looking forward to FM7. There are some thing i dont like they are doing in FM7 but overall it will be fun to play it. Like every FM before.
First of all, I would like to thank the person sharing this information. I applaud forza for at least giving the community a notice that there will be a delay in expected content and a warning that there will be a huge day 1 update.
However, the entire single player portion of the game should be available with initial purchase, be it on an extra disc or included with the digital download. Day one updates to single player games seems good but the updates after that has a potential to cause damage. Recent games have a habit to downgrade or introduce unwanted bugs with updates after day one patches.
If for any reason after a series of updates I wish to revert my forza game back to the original state, the day one updated singleplayer content will forever be lost, right?
Day one updates to singleplayer should always be available.
People also need to realize that Internet download speed are in MegaBITS and not Megabytes. People with 90Mbps Internet, yes I know that’s not everyone, will be able to download the 50 GB update in approximately an hour and 20 minutes.
For reference
1 Mb = .000125 GB
90 Mb/s = .01125 GB/s
.675 GB/M
So, approximately 74 minutes, if my calculations are correct.
For those of you with less than ideal Internet speeds and a digital copy, I due truly feel bad for you because unless there is a significant pre-load window it will be several days before you can play the game.
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whats the meaning of buying the disc version when you still have to download almost 50% of the game? and the difference between the 4k and Full HD version is only 5 GB.
its gonna be fun to download the day one update with my current Internets speed…
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That’s only speculation by some on here … nowhere has that been confirmed officially.
“The team is expecting the install size to be 100GB, with the download size being a bit smaller,” a rep said. The exact size of the download hasn’t actually been nailed down yet, although the rep added that the developers have put “a continued focus on improvements to download experiences.” Beyond that, however, “we have nothing new to announce at this time.”
As I mentioned earlier … a 5GB download of 4K assets is only speculation. That article does not mention any download size at all for the 4K enhancement … and neither has T10 to this point. I believe that it will be significantly larger than 5GB.
For sure it will be. Here’s a slightly, semi-comparable example. Years ago Bethesda came out with an HD DLC for Skyrim on PC. This pack increased texture sizes to 1024 or 2048 depending on it’s original size. That update came in at roughly 5gb. Sure Skyrim likely has a larger texture pool but in that instance we are still only talking about 1k and 2k textures, not 4k. My guess is minimum 15gb for Forza 7’s 4k update.
Sure there are some complaining about this but the majority of the complaints I see are about acquiring the data, not retaining it once downloaded. Unfortunately file compression and data speeds have not increased at the same rate as the increase in media(games or video). It’s easy to not understand if streaming 4k/1080p on multiple devices or downloading games in a few hours/overnight for larger titles is something you have grown accustomed to. I said it in more detail in another topic but there is still a significant portion of the U.S. population that don’t have access to at least 15Mb or even 10Mb. In places like AUS/NZ it’s even worse. There are plenty of ways developers/publishers could help get the product to the consumer easier but they seem to all be operating that it isn’t an issue.
The system is already in place to be able to download products you don’t have a license to. Think about how free weekends work. They open up availability for everyone to download a certain game and at the end of the free weekend if you don’t have a license or disc to play said game you can no longer access it. I’m sure it would take a few coders a couple of afternoons to write in an update but it seems to me they could create a placeholder app that would allow physical disc users to preload the 50gb day one patch. That’s a system that should have already been in place over a year ago when the first Day One patches began exceeding 8-10gb.
How many games did you own last gen that were mult-disc? I know I owned quite a few, 2 of those being Forza 3 and Forza 4. So why is mult-disc now some absurd thought? Back in the early 00s my company had a media dept that produced DVDs for clients and our cost at the time was $.45 per. Naturally bluray would cost more but we are talking at max $1 for a distributor the size of Microsoft so forgive me if I frown on both T10/MS for trying to save a buck on a $100 purchase.
Microsoft has seemed to have tossed all forms of file compression out the window(no pun) when it comes to downloading. For example I recently downloaded Gears of Ware 4 on PC through the Windows 10 Store and and noticed the amount downloaded seemed to be equal to the install size. To test this further I downloaded Forza Apex to my laptop and logged the data used by the Windows processes. Sure enough the amount downloaded matched the install size almost to the byte. For comparison Steam’s compression turned Doom from a ~40gb download(I could be off a bit there) to a ~100gb install size and Prey was 18gb downloaded and 38gb installed. There is no reason Microsoft shouldn’t be using some form of file compression for delivery.
I couldn’t care less about storage space. You are correct that grabbing storage is the cheapest it’s every been. I still have an 8tb Seagate external w/ 2 USB ports sitting in the box because I have no use for it but the on sale price was $120 which was too ridiculous to pass up. What I care about is how we acquire the data which is what game developers seem to be ignoring.
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Can we stop making a big deal out of the forzathon and leagues functions.
They did the same in Horizon 3 because the biggest part of the playerbase is made up out of average drivers or beginners who need to try the game on their own pace (career and such) before they want to jump into more serious racing or things like the auction house.
I remember that i had the same in horizon 3, took me a few months before i understood forzathon completely, same with the auction house.
Maybe if you guys didn’t just think about yourselfs but also put yourself in the place of the average player you would understand.
I like to use forzathon and leagues ASAP aswell but i don’t mind that it’s coming a bit later, let people learn the game a bit or do you really want people who jump straight into leagues without having any gameplay experience?
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I’m actually glad they’re holding back the auction house. There will be a better selection to buy from there after people make progress through the game and start putting up good cars.
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You are welcome :))
Anybody else remember how in Forza 5 the Storefront had “coming soon” over it for, well still actually says it. Who sees some of these “coming soon” features as def not coming soon??
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not lookin good…smh…
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