Important launch/post launch info in Week in Review 9/15 and 10/27

As many of you should recall not all the features of Forza 6 were available right away either. It took at least a week before all the hoppers were up. Not sure the leagues were up the first week in that either. As for a download, it is time to get over the disc collecting obsession. Saves so much space that I don’t have anymore for discs. Discs are on their last legs, very few PC game comes on a disc anymore, why should consoles not go the same way? Such a big deal over a download in not necessary. It still has to copy the disc to the hard drive anyway, that’s all it does. Also very slow. It does not run just off the disc without being installed.

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I don’t mind digital on steam because the games are the same price or cheaper. However Xbox digital games in the UK cost 30% or so more than the physical, so many like myself prefer physical for that reason. I can get a game for £40-£45 ($55/45 eruo) in store or the exact same game and the exact same edition for £55-60 ($75/62 euro) on Xbox live, that’s why people still buy discs.

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This is just a shame T10. An 50GB Day-One Update, really? Whats with the people who have a lame internetconection? For me it will take nearly 12 hours or even more to download this patch. I preordered the retail version of the game, an now to hear, that there is even more data which must be downloaded, is a complete desaster.

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My download speeds aren’t great, but so excited, anyway!

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Bummed about the Auction House not being there day one. Suddenly though the VIP pack doesn’t seem so bad filled with HE cars. Depending if it’s a month or more for the forzathons to open up. You have 6 cars already you can constantly use before all that. Probably why they did that. Seems like more of a VIP then most of the VIP things they have had before.

Not really worried about it. I decided to re-download Horizon3 as I just put in an 850 Evo SSD. In 45 minutes since it started it just passed 33 gig of the install. Bring on Forza 7.

So they are releasing an unfinished game?

Why does this not surprise me.

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The game is finished, it just doesn’t fit all on one disc. It’s a space problem not a game isn’t finished it time problem.

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I wouldn’t exactly call it finished when various features aren’t being added till X amount of time after launch.

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You’re probably jumping the gun assuming that they aren’t finished. They’ve had the blueprint in place since at least Horizon 3. This is by design. They want players to actually play the game when it launches, not profit from day one off content created from other games. This probably extends to rewards. Manteo Max posted somewhere recently that the rewards will be based off tier not car collections in a reversal likely of the initial rewards from what FM6 to more of what FM5 had. I’m no longer expecting an enormous credit balance waiting for me at launch and expect to have my starting cars from rewards and VIP.

-k

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It’s your guess that the reason for delay is due to the features being incomplete. It’s certainly possible that the auction house is unfinished, but it’s also possible that this was a conscious decision on Turn 10’s part, and that they have (in their own minds at least) good reasons for it. I sure as hell don’t know why, so I don’t want to just assume that the reason is because a team of people that have been reliably spitting out extremely successful games for years don’t know what they’re doing.

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So if I can play the first run through of the campaign without downloading 50% of the game (roughly) how short is the campaign? What is the 50 gigs of data that has to come through as a download in terms of content? Is it cars, tracks, features? I’m not against the extra download I just want to know what parts of the game are not packaged in with the first part.

Someone mentioned earlier that 100 gigs would take up 20% of the available hard drive space on their 500 gig Xbox one (which is what I have) but it’s actually more than that. When I first purchased the Xbox it was marketed with a 500gig hard drive but it only had 385 gigs available after the OS and proprietary software was installed. I bet it’s even higher now that we’re running Windows 10 OS on the Xbox. So it’s more like 25-30% of available hard drive space for one game. I had to buy a 3tb hard drive several years ago just to continue to play games without deleting old ones. And id be willing to bet that I’ll fill that one up to because games are only getting bigger.

I haven’t preordered this Forza yet but I am looking forward to it. I’m hoping they do a bundle deal with the one X when it comes out so I can save a few dollars.

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It’s kind of surprising to me that game size is such an issue to people. Games will only continue to get bigger as more and more content is added. It’s almost a foregone conclusion when buying a 500GB or even a 1TB XBox that you’re going to need to buy an additional external drive. Externals are really getting pretty inexpensive … you can run out any day and buy a 3TB external for $75 … which is roughly the price of a single game. People are willing to drop $100 on ultimate editions of multiple games … but then squawk about paying $75 for extra storage for ALL of their games combined??

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Truth. The first computer my parents bought us had a 20 meg hard drive.

-k

Im that old that the games I used to play were stored on a cassette tape i.e Sinclair Spectrum, Commodore Vic 20.

Back to Forza and the announcements make no difference to me. I have a very fast internet connection so downloading 100GB won’t be a problem. As for some features being disabled upon release i.e Leagues, Auction House. I always tend to try and build up my credits, cars by playing Rivals, Career mode when a Forza game is released so it won’t affect me. I suggest others do the same because there is nothing worse than being smashed off online by some idiot who has jumped straight into multiplayer without learning the tracks or getting used to the physics of the cars!

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Ye AI is the easiest way, anyway i like how multiplayer is in FM6.

Yes because in 2017 everyone should suffer because some people want to download a game on dial-up connections. Maybe they should not release it because some of you run a dial-up connection and cannot download the game. I also love the guys complaining about hdd space, again in 2017, when hard disks are the cheapest components for PC. Also its pretty normal to not have auction house in the first week of launch, a lot of games have done this in the past Diablo3, WoW lots of other titles that have this feature usually dont release it in the first week, its obvious why not. But yes the sky is falling, everyone is canceling pre-orders, its the end of the world…

Nice arrogance.

Many people are on low speed connections because it’s all they can get in their area, like me. Even if I was on a fast connection though, I’d still have a bit of basic human empathy for those less fortunate, who can’t get such a service. Millions of people in countries like the US, UK and Australia in other words.

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ive have 8 MBit/Sec right now (we are getting fiber this fall though :slight_smile: and im not gonna cancel my pre-ordered physical copy! did you ever play forza motorsport 3 or 4?
on those games you did not need to first install from the disc then download freaking 45 GB to your hdd,
because it had everything on the discs,
you did just put the disc in the dvd-reader and installed the game. so why cant they ship the game on more than one blueray disc today? thats my biggest problem.
in 2017 its insteresting that many broadband providers still have data caps and dont even can they provide all their customer with fiber internet. yes here in sweden we are lucky in this area but other countries its worse. and no one have said that they should not release it becouse of customers with slow connections!
hard drives prices is different for each country, its not cheap everywhere! maybe it is for you but not for everybody.

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@JacksBurton: I know some people have slow internet but I doubt we will see a content delivery revolution in the next two weeks. Internet providers need to get better. People should demand better service. Yes compression algorithms should improve. Microsoft should use them. One reason for there be little or no compression is probably that many console users can’t comprehend that if you have a compressed downloaded file for a 100 gig game, let’s say 50 gigs, that you need not 100 gigs of space but at least 150, for the downloaded compressed file and the installed game. So they “simplified” it by making the download 100 gigs with the side effect of prolonging the download.

-k

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