A few of my opinions and questions. It's going to get Deleted, but lets debate before it does.

I’ve been playing Forzamotorsports from the First one, have bought anything Forza since then. This game has finally done it. I’m sad and angry that I will no longer be buying/Pre-ordering anything Forza. Here come the Memes of “bye falicia” and everything else you guys come up with. I bet 95% of you that don’t agree with me or have opposite opinions never played FM1,FM2, FM3, FM4 in it’s hay days probably because most of people who play FM series now were to young to pick up the controller to play when FM 1-4 was a racing game with socialization and meaning behind it

Hey!! Auction House is coming back to FM…Syke… coming soon (after I’ve already unlocked and have enough money to buy any car I want) See for the young one and the new comers, Auction House was for cars that were “Unicorn” cars, Cars you couldn’t buy in the game. Auction house was for tuners to tune a car and sell only a certain number a cars with that tune. Auction House was for Designs on cars. I remember the top designers would come up with a design and only would be a limited edition/number of designs being sold. Making that car that you drove in the multiplayer lobbies actually unique. When you would play single player, and didn’t have the car needed for the division, you would go to the auction house and try a find a cheap used car that you could buy to race in that division. Also before you use to pick a region where you would get discounts on certain vehicles because you picked that region, so that meant you can get the cars cheap and sell them at auction for more for people who didn’t pick that region and at the same time you went to auction to get cars that aren’t in your region. At this rate of this “coming soon” bull matter, I’ll be done with the single player before the auction house is even updated. What is even more depressing is Microsoft pushed them so much to get the game out, they said, put a coming soon sign on it which is incomplete, but still go ahead and release it.

Maybe I’m just expecting to much? Here come the memes of “if you want that game, why don’t you make it yourself” Well, I chose a different profession that meets my financial wants. Plus it wouldn’t work for me, I would be to much for the gamer, so obviously I would get fired quick for sticking up for the gamers. "Oh you want to make the game better? oh you want more content? or you want to stick to what made the game in the first place? oh you want to release a complete game from the get go? oh you want to actually listen the gamers? Well then your not cut out for this, we need someone who we can push around and rack in the millions while doing so, and if we don’t rack in the millions we want to blame you, even though it’s our fault. Yup, I definitely would get fired.

Maybe I can get input with you guys, I know most are going to be ridiculous, buy maybe one of you can make sense or a proper opinion. One is why is there so many trucks on this game? I know they made a debut a long time ago. I didn’t like it then, still don’t get it now. Seems like there are even more this time, Only time they are used is to ram people on multiplayer. Those trucks that are put in the game are wasted resources that could of gone to another car. I’m sure even the new comers could think of a car they rather would have then the Hummer…facepalm Stop with the dang trucks already. The mercedes benz trucks…now that’s a addition that, I’m not a huge fan, but it makes sense on why they are in this game. I’m sure a multiplayer lobby of those would actually be fun. Nascar, I see why they are in the game, but I think resources could be spent else where. Leave nascar the to dedicated nascar games that are out there. That is a weak opinion, but I’m sure there are others who agree nascar is wasted resources.

Where are these people who T10 is listening to? When did anyone ever say take out tsukuba circuit? New york? … Yeah I see it now… you people looking around like…Tsukuba? new york? What tracks are these? Where are the people who said take out Tommy Kaira? Do Lucky? Mines? Saleeen (lets see the mf point out the obvious and not really address the real issue), also WHO ARE THE mommy lovers that keep asking for more rain??? nobody likes that !!! Especially if it’s taking away resources from other parts of the game!!! Easily work on the auction house instead and put a dang “rain coming soon” banner on the main menu. Like mind blown for you mommy lovers huh? who would of thought that makes more sense!!!

Also, I understand you couldn’t get the licensing for Toyota, Same thing with Porsche last time. But why are there toyota Hilux arctic truck? toyota baja truck? Toyota #99 Eagle MkIII? Are they separate from toyota in a certain way? Like Saleen is with Ford? So if that’s the case… You give us the Toyota mention above over the Top Secret Supra? Veilside Supra? APR Celica? AB Flug supra? Do lucky Supra? Toms Supra, MR2, Soarer? Border MR2? VIS Racing MR2? …nooooo those usable cars couldn’t be in the game, lets put trucks and nascar camry [Mod Edit - Abbreviated profanity, profanity and profanity that is disguised but still alludes to the words are not permitted - D].

The replays…still the same sorry as replay cameras. Even the same ol’ sounds of redline sounds when you shift gears…how hard is that to fix? Maybe someone with actual knowledge about this problem can answer that??

The multiplayer hoppers, already bored of it. Again here comes the “your expecting to much”" they already said they will bring more multiplayer hoppers later". Swear i wish i could slack off on my job and say here is the job I’ve done mister customer, pay me for it, but I’ll get you the rest later on…maybe. Why can’t we just make custom lobbies, make a name for them and let other players search for it. Lets say i want to make a lobby titled. RWD, B class, All assists off…guess what you can play with other like minded players and have fun while doing so. You can even make rooms titled AWD, C class, 25 lap races… or whatever you heart desires. Yes, for the young ones and the new comers what was a possibility back then and everyone loved it. Now it’s the way it is and if you don’t like it, to bad.

Whats going with ForzaVista? nobody talks about the car or the history or facts about it, even the texts that lists the HP numbers, or the size of the rim…nothing… I’m asking for to much, it will get patched mister customer…maybe.

Just sucks when you can’t even take in the positives of a game, when there is so much negative (again this is my opinion, that has a bbbuck load of truth and reasoning) I’d like to point out alot more but I want to hear some feedback and maybe have a reasonable disagreement with others who think opposite. Maybe the game is the way the game is because there are more people with completely opposite opinions then me and i should just leave the series because it will never be what it was.

I do like the specialty dealer addition…but just curious of the longevity of it, Seem like T10 would have to keep adding new cars to the game to keep the specialty dealer going, because I’ve already unlocked alot of the cars that have locks on the car collection. I won’t lie, I was thinking…humm i might have to buy me a Cobra R at the auction house, or maybe wait for the specialty dealer to offer it since it’s locked…but nope I can get it on the single player. I did get excited for a moment about those to possibilities. But i just have to grind out on single player (which is fine, I don’t mind that either, but then again I’m asking to much if I just want to go to the auction house and spend my millions i have on buying a Cobra R from someone else…since i can’t… Single player grind it is.) I’m not even going to go back and proof read anything.

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Then don’t expect us to read or sympathize with your wall of self hatred that 95% of us forum regulars have already read countless times over the past week.

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Well, out of all that, that’s what you took? Dam ok. lol. I’m sure you have, just like I have read a bunch of times over the past week. Actually just read one a couple min ago. I understand his frustration. But since you’ve read countless times, care to debate? Do you agree? Disagree? Love this game in it’s current state?

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I love Forza Motorsport 7 been playing it since the 29th September, I have not found anything wrong with it apart from certain features like Forzathon and auction house coming soon. No one made you buy the game, if you dont like it swap it for another one.

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How long have you been playing the forza series? Ofcourse nobody made my buy the game, the fanboy, the hopes, the return of certain features…that some are locked at this moment, the commercials, the hype T10 makes it out to be, but isn’t, is what made me buy the game… how do I swap it for another one? Not like I can say, Hey T10 give me my money back here goes your game? If so, where is the link?

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I have been playing the Forza series is the first game, you can get a refund if you dont like the game and use the money to buy a different game

The trucks, buggies and the polaris thing are copy and pasted from horizon. Nascars copy pasted from fm6 expansion. Most cars and tracks are either from fm5,6 or horizon 2,3. Dubai is the only new track.

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None of the tracks are from the Horizon games, so what if the Nascars are copy pasted from fm6 expansion. Also so what if some of the cars are copy and pasted from other forza games doesn’t make it a bad game

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From Microsoft? This would be the first time i ask for a refund, so I’m not sure how to do it.

lmao, True story.

You are correct, but we expect progression. It seems the only progression was very little with a big jump in graphical department with reflections, FPS, Weather effects, Lighting.

Horizon I can understand why trucks, buggies and polaris are there. Nascar is a Ctrl C, V, I like the new track so far, but I like the return of Autumn Ring.

There no tracks in Horizon. It’s open world. 99% of content here has been in previous games. I never said the game is bad. Gameplay wise, it’s the best forza motorport game ever made.

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Why do they all start with been playing Forza since?

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They say that because it demonstrates an understanding of what the previous games were capable of and hence can comment on the fact that this game, compared to those that went before it is more buggy and less complete.

This game should build on the past versions rather than be the mess it is.

I admit that if you only play single player career or free play you probably be happy with the game.

Those of us that enjoy multiplayer, parties, rivals etc are not feeling quite so well served.

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I think it comes down to the different ways Forza is played. For a lot it is simply a single player game to be unlocked and forgotten in six months. I suspect this is true for newer players. They don’t get the appeal of custom public lobbies. They won’t spend months turning one car for one track. They will move on to the next hotness. There is another group that (used to at least) spend tons of time on this game. I knew many that never even played the single player, heck some didn’t even race, they just painted or/and tuned for money. This second group is more likely to have played Forza longer and more likely to be disappointed with 7 (that doesn’t mean they don’t like aspects of it, only they feel more acutely what is missing).

Honestly I don’t know how you can look at the game in its current state and not see some glaring flaws. From the obvious (missing features) to the subtle (the lap times being green no matter if it is faster or slower than the previous) to the controversial (loot crates and random drops).

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All I want is the modern GT endurance hopper and to be able to blueprint my own championships Horizon 3 style. I could care less that the auction house is not here at launch and I don’t miss some of the tracks from the original two games that were not that good. Sorry but New York was a pretty weak circuit. We all have our pet wish list items. For me it’s the two above and more control over weather and time of day.

-k

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Sorry I didn’t read your post, I must go work. But probably it will be deleted like some before.

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I have a feeling that FM 7 was supposed to be an Xbox One X release title but the developers were forced to release it early in its current state by the powers that be. Love it or hate it, it is what it is for now.

My biggest gripe is with the drivatars. Seems they have forgotten everything they have learned since the idea’s inception and rather replaced the whole field of “drivers” with M. Rossi wannabes. Never thought I’d say this but I actually miss driving against that egomaniac. He/she had personality unlike these drivatars that don’t even realize you’re there 90% of the time.

I have preordered and played every Forza Title that has come out, and I do agree with the OP on the stuff. This franchise needs a lot of tender love and care and quite frankly, I blame Forza Horizon like I did when it first came out. And I have good reason to. Compare the first 4 Forza’s, to these last few. I break it between these for one simple fact. Dates, Cars, and the state of Forza in General

Forza - 2005 - 231 Cars
Forza 2 - 2007 - 349 cars
Forza 3 - 2009 - 500 cars
Forza 4 -2011 - 500 Shipped, DLCs +)
FH1 - 2012
FM5 - 2013 - 200 Shipped
FH2 - 2014
FM6 - 2015 - 450+
FH3 - 2016
FM7 - 2017 - 700+

Just by looking at the timeline and productions of the Motorsports side, we see a massive decline when T10 decided to go open world. Instead of copying the cars from 4 to 5, we hardly got anything and even lost tracks. So why do we as customers have to suffer for their lack of resources and employment scalability to handle 2 different games? Looking at 3 and 4, we should have had almost 700 cars when it came to 5, almost 900 in 6, and Forza 7 should be releasing with easily 1000+ cars. This is where the OP was asking for a lot of the specialized vehicles. IT’s not just with Toyota, because we also have the Mugen Hondas and others. T10 kind of went down hill in Motorsports when Horizon came about and it really looks like more love and support goes into Horizon, than it does with it’s main core game.

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I like have NASCAR in the game. See with official titles you are limited to official calendars etc, in Forza I can experience F1 at VIR, BTCC at Road America, NASCAR at Brands etc. that’s the beauty of video games, sp not wasted in my opinion.

I believe the Toyota issue happened quite late and that’s the reason for not having any ‘work around’ cars, it wouldn’t surprise me if Turn 10 have a Lexus LC500 and 2017 GT86 sitting there half finished. Similar thing happened with VW as there was screens of another Baja Bug model.

I would say they do leave cars out but not tracks. The licence for Tsukuba would have run out and they haven’t renewed for what ever reason, I’m sure New York required some permission from the City. Cars on the other hand I believe skip certain games despite having licencing, like certain cars only showing up in Motorsport and Horizon.

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Great game for me as far as single player/career is concerned and actually aim to finish my first career in the FORZA series. Big downside for me is Rivals with it’s messed up and “glitched” leader boards, [ii] Multiplayer with random grid system enhancing further chaos in the hoppers and [iii] paint booth that works on moonlight. The loot boxes are of no concern or worry to me and I’m patient to wait for the auction house etc.
So, no need for me to jump on the “refund” train, just continue to play the game for what it is and holding thumbs the rest will be sorted out soon.

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You pretty much echo my thoughts.
I will add I hope the tuning is sorted out ASAP. I discovered a bug last night whilst tuning that actually allowed you to view a locked tune on the Xbox One version. Im not going to post how to do this but its concerning to those who spend ages tuning their cars. Also the fact tunes do not load properly except in the main menu is annoying.

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