Gameplay - Manual Gears - Car starts in reverse or needs two shifts to change gear - 3892903

Happening on my computer as well, most races but most recently the Volcan Sprint with the Ariel Atom V8 (AWD swapped with 7 speed).
Platform:
Windows 11 22H2
Ryzen 7 5800H
NVIDIA RTX 3070Ti Laptop
16GB RAM

So we’ve now had 3.8K views on this thread and 165 votes - can’t understand why the voting is so low as it seems to be widespread.
Probably most people do the usual, view but don’t bother to vote.

Max - this is your thread so you must have seen the numbers. When will the action to get a fix begin ?

glad it’s not just me, actually, I was worried sick it was some sort of driver issue,

Anyway I’m having this issue on
PC
with a
TS PC Racer
and whatever the shifter that thrustmaster has is called (the problem also occurs without the shifter mind)

I did note that when I place the shifter into neutral and then revv the engine, the gear display on the bottom right of the display switches from ā€œNā€ to ā€œ1ā€, only for it to flip back to ā€œNā€ once the gas pedal is released. When using a sequential shifter, the game refuses for the car to be put in the ā€œNeutralā€ position.

Affected by the ā€˜shift twice for second gear’ bug.
Windows 10
Microsoft store
Xbox controller

Multiple issues in multiple cars in multiple events. Many come up in Freeroam, with cars starting in reverse and/or needing to double-shift to advance to 2nd. A few events have had the double shift issue appear; none with reverse glitch. Yet.

XBox Series X, controller user, manual selected, launch control on.

Same here. I’m on PC, using a Thrustmaster T248 wheel and Thrustmaster TH8A shifter. It happens at any time, at any type of race or track. Solo, Co-Op, PVP, Rivals. No matter if I select Manual or Manual + Clutch. Getting out of reverse requires two inputs regardless of transmission option or if I use paddles or H-shifter. I can see it in my wheel’s display that there has been a gear change (by the + symbol appearing briefly), but the car is still either in 1st or reverse.

If car manages to launch, the only time it won’t shift into another 1st, is when using manual + clutch with the H-shifter. But that very rarely happens. And when it doesn’t, it’s ā€œno mercy reversieā€ again.

Impossible to pinpoint what is causing this. It is entirely random. Happens more often than not. To add to this, in case it’s related, when stopping at a house or event, the prompt to activate (with a wheel it’s ā€œ7ā€), the button is crossed out.

If it hasn’t been happening to you yet then it might not appear.
The mouse cursor has been going for quite a long time, the whole reverse thing only been going for me since the last series launch, which was still a while back now but is widespread throughout the community.

Other side of the world ? Where exactly ? Could be that the bug hasn’t traveled that far yet… don’t think they carry passports :wink:

Or he got canned because he was turning the game into some kind of ā€œfun fairā€ and the uppers at T10 didn’t liked that because it’s going to far away from what Horizon actually should be?

To me it seems the guy is better off with developing fantasy games or what ever.

same here, but its even worse to where i have to tap my brakes and then start driving to actually go anywhere, as well as when im drifting with my wheel and h-shifter the game goes into 1st or 2nd at random when im on 3rd on the shifter, i cant even play the game like this anymore tbh.

Thanks for the info and taking the time to investigate the weird mouse infestation.
It’s an odd one for sure but at least I’ve got a workaround for now. It’s not a major pain anyways unless it gets stuck in the middle of the screen.

I remember people saying it just before S20 went live but I didn’t get it till the actual start day. Might have been sitting dormant after the update on the Tuesday before the actual Thursday start.

The Heli doesn’t bother me that much though I don’t get why it’s there in non rally events as it’s not even giving pace notes in those. Just a nuisance on screen for no reason there, not to mention a waste of graphics / processing power.

Workaround until it is fixed:
Every time you switch your car - go to difficulty settings and turn launch control off, save settings and turn it back on and save.
After that the car wont start in reverse gear when going into races - at least so far from what i have tested.

The bug with starting in reverse (already happening after leaving the garage) seems to happen whenever i switch a car and/or upgrade a car.

Hope this helps some people and the staff to nail the issue down :slight_smile:

Can’t use LC - No E-Brake since the Oct OS update mess.

My opinions on Mike have changed over time. I’ve read a lot of posts on here from some people claiming how he ruined the game but I only started in FH4, just three weeks before FH5 (only bought Xbox for FH5 and had 3 weeks of FH4 waiting for it to release). I’ve since played all FH titles but honestly, the more recent are my favorites so MB did a great job IMHO, but I’m not a huge fan of the E for Everyone rating which, whoever decided to take the franchise that direction, didn’t do it many favors I’d say.

BTTT:
NEW PHENOMENA related to the reverse/shift bug

Yesterday I experienced automatic downshifts for the first time EVER. I have video clip, not sure I can post here, I’ll try a OneDrive link or XB Live to show you all.

I drive Manual (no clutch), have driven Horizon Open and this week’s Trial with LC On and Off and had reverse starts in both scenarios, but not always. i.e. Race 1, start in 1st, Race 2, start in Reverse. No discernible pattern to bug.

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AiElDvwt2Fg8gaMRj0rEzD2agjIOPA
Not sure how to embed the vid but link works. Only one or two of the downshifts were intentional (early in the clip and later on the highway, however the latter example downshifted directly into first, jumping down several gears!), every other downshift you see/hear is an automatic shift by the game.

This has annoyed me just as much as, if not more, than the double first shift and reverse gear start! Unacceptable.

Seems like auto is a mess in general. Why did it keep you in 4th after the pole for example?

On the Xbox Series X, there is a high chance that upon starting any community created playlist event, the car will always launch in reverse (and need to double shift) and the only way to fix that is to restart the game. In one session, I’ve restarted that ā€œThe Windy Cityā€ event over 50 times and every single time my car launched in reverse. Upon restarting the game, the issue somehow went away, but I still need to double shift to get out of first gear. Looks like the issue is pretty random, but incredibly annoying.

From the beginning of the clip it was meant to be a skill drive - I like the highway section there, can rack up 10 SP fairly quickly - but when I noticed the first auto downshift I just started driving in a random direction with no real purpose. I hit the ā€˜pole’ because I was focusing on the gear indicator lol
I was expecting it to auto downshift from 4th, hence retaining that gear.
Then I was changing up the gears to see if the game would auto downshift again, and it did.

Whatever coding errors have caused these bugs I don’t expect they’ll be rectified. Instead I think they’re working on a new build adding the oval track and other new fixes / features to a rolled-back build, kind of ā€˜trial and error’ to identify it. I don’t foresee a hotfix, rather an entire new update to remove the gear selection/shifting mess. That’s my hypothesis. But we’ll all have to wait and see.

So you were driving manual and it shifted like that without your input? If that’s the case…holy mooooh!

Why are they taking so long to fix this? I can’t stand driving around in automatic mode, there are multiple instances per race where you need to downshift to a lower gear to remain in higher power band coming out of turns etc. and the game will just keep you in a higher gear, I also don’t like that some cars will spin tires off the line but instead of holding it or modulating throttle if the RPM comes near red-line it shifts you into second so it’s a spin tires + bog into second start.

Anyhow, this is a ridiculous bug that seems like a straightforward fix, the developers could surely knock this bug out in 30 min tops, issue a 20mb hotfix download, that they aren’t has me really worried. I mean it’s not an isolated bug, many if not all of us using manual transmission are affected, so why are they dragging their feet with this?

Absolutely not confidence inspiring, I think I’m done with Forza Horizon after this, I’m just tired of the BS and incompetence.