My idea basically stems from what i thought “Forza Horizon” was going to be, instead it turned out to be arcade rubbish (no offence T10) but IMO its just not forza…
How ever in the spirit of keeping it “Forza 5” just imagine the game as it is now, tuning options, paint options everything you do now with the ability to navigate the open road.
I would’nt suggest a need for speed attitude where you get police chases, no thats way to cheesey…
The problem is i feel while track racing is great and yes so is drifting, but it really doesnt give you much of an option, i mean you have classic rally cars no off road dirt tracks or the likes.
Imagine tuned up cars “Pre Plotted” out bends & sweeps, and yes lets throw in a few round abouts you know they would get abused by drifters and greatly punish those going to fast off the straights.
I suppose while track racing is great fun i think it would add a little more excitement if we had a large portion of a town or state to race round, maybe make it a yearly event to where it gets closed down so nothing illegal is going on essentialy making it street / track racing with some woodland areas and out in the sticks country roads challanges for rally cars etc.
Just a thought but hey i guess you will never know unless you put the idea out there right ?
Of course but that is not going to be anything like “Forza 5” in terms of sim style racing, essentially it will be arcade rubbish again. Thus the above statement about Horizon original game.
It was a dissapointing let down, and besides i think the idea of such raw power from these types of cars would be a great rush to race around streets as opposed to specifically designed tracks perhaps even a little more challanging.
First off let me just say, i did not start of with horizon i started with Forza 2… When people actually raced.
Secondly the idea i put up was just a suggestion so theres no need for (random snyed) everyday fanboy sarcasm. < this is not aimed primarely at you…
And regardless of what horizon has in it, it makes no difference because for starters its an arcade game built towards beginners and advanced alike for FUN it is not sim physics.
What i preposed was Forza 5 racing sim physics taken to the streets Horizon never has and will never hold these propperties as long as it caters for arcade style need for speed most wanted type of gameplay.
If you noted i did state " this is not aimed primarely at you…" when regarding the fanboy sarcasm, as for the horizon you said “Starting with the original Horizon” and that looked to me like your saying i started with the original horizon. Its an honest error on my part.
As for your secondary post i will respond to that shortly.
There are two ways to describe the game you want. There is your OP - but someone may build that game and it be another Horizon.
Another way to describe what you want is to take a game on the market and describe to a developer what you would change in that game. This is what I am asking you - what would you change in Horizon, No need to say its garbage - simply say you would like the handling to be exactly like Forza Motorsport (take your pick which number).
It is simply trying to be very specific what needs to be different so it is the game of your dreams (assume a game dev will read this and build it for you - you need to be very specific about why the previous developer got it wrong hopefully using different works than garbage, etc) lol - better if you say why you feel that way - did the cars slide too much, too much on rails or is it easier to say copy physics exactly from Forza 4.
While your two main pointers make sence and while i agree both could work, the reason i was not specific in detail is because it was merely a suggestion to see what other racers thought.
I am also pretty content in the thought that when i say “Horizon is rubbish Arcade crap & is not what i would call forza” people understand that horizon is a spin off, and with its completely arcade style game type it shouldnt even be compared.
All it has to its name is the name if you catch my drift, and it is crap i barely had it from pre order a day and a half at most before i traded it in.
I expected “Forza Motorsports 4” Physics painting & tuning options, there were none or at least nowhere near the same calibre. (You could not drift ) at least not in the propper sence, it was more like a frantic power slide on rails.
That to me is not racing and for anyone that takes forza sim racing on a serious note (to us petrol heads that is our fun) or at the very least its mine and the point was to be able to take that same fun but to the streets not the track.
I think the game you are looking for is Grid Autosport. I would hardly call Forza Horizon rubbish. It may not be your cup of tea, but your opinion doesn’t degrade the quality or caliber of the game in any way.
Have fun with Grid
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I know… learn to code and program games, create your own studio, get an Xbox Dev Kit and license to make an Indie Game, and make the game exactly the way you want it. Don’t forget to get licensing for the cars unless you want to take the GTA approach but I bet their driving simulation is, as you put it, “rubbish”.
See this is the type of immature snyde crap we dont need it was a sane suggestion and forza horizon as far as im concerned is not a racing sim, the idea i put forward was for Forza 5 physics in a street world environment which horizon does NOT do.
So before you step to me in a thread like im an idiot trying to belittle me actually read the suggestion and make sure you understand it, before mouthing off making yourself look like an idiot.
Lol grid autosport has got more real world track’s than Forza 5 so that’s hardly the game he’s looking for.
Horizon 2 is what you describe so as said above other than tuning and maybe physics I say maybe because no one know for certain what the physics are going to be like, so other than those two things what would you change?
Yes, but Grid also has an entire section devoted to actual street racing. It may not have Forza 5 Physics but it’s pretty darn close.
And PGCD, I did read your post and knew what you were trying to say. I think you should wait for Forza Horizon 2 to come out and wait. You said the first one didn’t have Forza physics, painting, or tuning and I’d say you’re only half right. It did have Forza physics - they took the engine from Forza 4 in its entirety and made some slight changes to make it more accessible to a broader spectrum of players. They took the tuning out yes, but the painting was there unchanged.
Forza Horizon 2 is using the physics engine from Forza 5, it will include Forza style painting, just like the last one, and based on consumer request tuning will be available. Sure, it may not be street racing like, racing in the streets of a city but for now it’s one of the two closest games we have. If you want racing in city streets, your best bet is, as I said, Grid Autosport. Unfortunately Grid is only for the Xbox 360 and PS3 for right now.
If you want a developer to make changes to a current game, or to make an entirely new spin off of a game as what you described sounds like a Forza Motorsport spin off. Sure it’s not Horizon, but it is a spin off none the less. To do this, it needs to have some demand and be profitable to justify the time and expense of making it. Coming out of the gate bashing the company or the game you want them to base your idea from is not the way to start.
Disagree I’m an avid forza fan but I’m also a keen racing fan both in real and game and grid autosport’s physics are far from horrible, and in all honesty the game your after is only ever going to be viable if you get yourself a team a design it yourself.
Development teams design games for the mass market and try to incorporate a little of everything into the area of that game, horizon is at this present time the closest thing your going to get to your OP and to be honest I can’t see how you can judge a game when you haven’t even played it.
1: because the first Horizon was not even close to what i was expecting, it was crap all the way round the board, im sorry but thats just how i feel about it a day and a half then returning it (trade in) what ever it says it all.
2: Lets be real if Forza was to change horizon to much it essentially wouldnt be horizon no more, so no the physics while maybe a little stabler still wont be that of FM5 as per suggestion.
3: Thus the conslusion after also seeing raw in game footage and exactly how it handles, thats how i can judge it and im sorry its just not for me.
4: This OP was only a suggestion and mainly to see what others thought of that idea, but all i seem to see is hostility and a lot of sarcasm. so ok i called the game rubbish because to me it was but thats just my opinion. Regardless these factors didnt even need to come into the equation as long as i made my point and people understand the end result i would like to see on a Forza Game be it a new title a one off or FM6 go’s to canada and runs riot the point is it dont matter its just a personal opinion suggestion of something i would liek to see and i thought others might too its that simple.
Curious… reading - and re-reading - this thread, I see little to no hostility or sarcasm directed at your posts. In fact, this has been - in my opinion - a remarkably civil response to your OP.
What I do see, though, are these “hostile and sarcstic” comments from you:
“arcade rubbish”
“essentially it will be arcade rubbish again”
“fanboy sarcasm”
“immature snyde ****”
“before mouthing off making yourself look like an idiot”
“we got **** slapped hard”
“first Horizon was not even close to what i was expecting, it was **** all the way round the board”
You played Horizon 1 for a day and a half. You mistakenly claim it was lacking in painting options. You determined, with a day and a half of play, that it’s impossible to drift, and that the upgrades only effect was to make the cars go faster (again, mistaken).
It does not seem like you’ve read much about the upcoming Horizon 2. It has been stated by Turn 10 that it will have the same tuning options as FM5. No doubt, the painting will still be as full-featured. And, you have decided - based on watching a couple videos - that Horizon 2 will not have simulation physics, even though the ISR guy said in his video review (which you pointed out, but evidently didn’t watch) that Horizon 2 will have FM5’s simulation physics.
As I said before… YOU are asking for Arcade gameplay with FM5’s simulation physics, and that is exactly what Horizon 2 is offering. Whether or not it hits its target won’t be known until it’s out, and players have had a reasonable amount of time to delve into it.
It’s a little early to be saying “Even though Horizon 2 is exactly what I want in a game, I have already decided it will fail.”
This is what I’m saying. You can’t judge FH2 without playing it. The demos are still of an incomplete game, and the guys playing it had assists in use that may vary from what you would choose yourself. You don’t judge a man until you’ve walked a mile in his shoes. (Because that way, when you judge him you’re a mile away and have his shoes!) The same goes for games. I enjoyed FH1 quite a bit, but I will also be the first to admit that it was not perfect. With Horizon 2, Playground Games is promising to address the feedback they have gotten from us, the players. The community. The fans. So, before you decide that FH2 isn’t the game you really want, try it first!
on the off chances it is what i want ill go with no thankyou, i am not trying to be disrespectfull or spiting myself… But after the first one they burned there bridges, im sorry but for what i expected from T10 & crew that REALLY wasnt it and horizon 2 will not be on my list.
While there may indeed be changes im convinced it still wont drive anything like FM5, as i said before it cant if it did they would be slitting there own throats, why you might ask ?
Because to take away from a games style would lose it its fan base, its probably very well why they stuck with the game and liked it.
Just think what would happen if FM5 was no longer of its calibre, in handling speed & physics after what you have played would you still go for it ? i wouldnt…
