I’m sorry to say that but Forza Horizon 2 is a complete contradiction of racing rules, whether we’re talking about rally, track racing or even some kind of 4x4 racing.
The online mode is ridiculous.
I found that you can win any player against player race as long as you don’t follow roads.
Just drive to the finish in the straight line and you’ll be fine.
For those who know driving and love to drive, this is a farce.
This is a step back in gaming going towards simulation and replicating real world.
Forza 5 on the other hand, amazing game.
I wish Microsoft would go in this direction in the next releases.
if you like this game please don’t get offended.
It’s just my opinion. Opinion of someone who loves driving and would prefer games to be similar to real world, less arcade like (10 years ago).
You cant always just go straight as there are barriers or trees which could be in the way. The AI will find shortcuts too, you’re supposed to race to the finish line and go offroad, thats why they made the space. Horizon is about finding shortcuts and the best route, if you’re finding it too easy bump up the difficulty and assists off; or find harder opponents to race, it was never meant to be a simulation or replicate real life, its an arcade game.
If you prefer simulation then stay away from Horizon titles as they won’t please you, thats what the motorsports franchise is there for, but PC is the best device if you want a hardcore sim.
your opinion suggests that you are living in a dream world void of research information that is everywhere to be found…kinda silly to come here a post such an uninformed comment…my opinion!!
With all this information out there, it’s surprising what little research people do before spending $65. That’s a lot of money to just shell out uninformed.
What it sounds like is you love the Motorsport Branch of the Franchise, but that may be a bit out there as well. If it were truly a simulation of real world, most people on this forum would be stuck racing one car - probably a spec Miata - at one location. The physics are real, most of the locations are real - or inspired by real places - and the cars are real. Everything else is there for us to enjoy because we cannot otherwise indulge in it.
If you like Motorsport, perhaps wait for Forza Motorsport 6 to come out.
As for Horizon 2 I must say I disagree with you here:
I love driving, and it’s an exceptionally fun game. The driving dynamics are the best on the Xbox One, save perhaps FM5. There is o game out as of right now that has demonstrated better. It’s tons of fun, the driving is excellent, and it is definitely a step forward in what other developers must now be looking at doing with the current state of gaming. Forza Horizon 2 was never intended to be a simulator racing game, nor is it supposed to 100% replicate the real world. Implying that either of these was ever the goal is uninformed and out of touch with what the game is all about.
Also, you can’t just start, point the car at the finish line and go. There are checkpoints you must pass through and there is still the idea of a good racing line through the given course for a fast time. The principles and ideas of racing are all here, they are simply taken to a level available only in virtual reality.
Next time you’re any Forza game in a 12 car lobby full of Venenos and Zonda Cinques keep in mind, a total of 8 were ever made and no one will be smashing them into each other on the race track. Right? #KeepForzaReal don’t exotic hypercars.
Exactly - if I wanted to sit in traffic, stay on the road, follow the speed limit signs, and drive in a pretty decent car I’d jump into the one in my sig and go drive down the highway around 5 o’clock.
I take driving holidays where the primary activity will be driving on amazing roads to enjoy my car. When I do this I am taking long point to point roads and not driving on closed circuits. There is only one game that satisfies my desire to get out and drive (not race).
The Horizon series lets me get a little bit of that when I am unable to take the time to drive out to where the amazing roads are. It lets me simulate my own car (Megane RS 250), cars I have owned or driven in the past and cars that I will never be able to drive.
The Motorsport series certainly is more of a racing sim then Horizon (and I know there would be those who argue that Motorsport isn’t a sim either - but that is another argument) but Horzion is where I turn to get my driving fix.
Funny how everyone is hating on the OP for his opinion which to be honest is correct. For a car simulator brand this game is full of NFS arcade kids. It’s their game so let them do what they want, but there should be a way to get real car guys together. I dont know about you but tracks are all closed over the winter so some of us enjoy playing a racing game with other real car guys. No offense to all the arcade “gamers” but some people just want to play this game in a more realistic way because we have built cars, we own cars and we participate in track days, auto x, even NHRA events. Sometimes though it’s nice to cruise some roads like when going to a car show with a group of cars. Rip on it sometimes but just enjoy the drive. Is it too much to ask for a real cruise lobby not just a bunch of S2 hyper cars smashing everywhere…
As someone who loves the more simulation style of racing videogames, the amount of disgust I feel when I see gamers labeling other gamers “kids” is enough to make me sick. It really is the unbecoming side of this community that rears its ugly head all too often.
There is. Get all your “real car guys” together and create a private lobby.
Umm … Forza Motorsport.
Ahh … the “no offense” preface. Again, if you want to play more realistically, get all the “we” people you keep referring to into a private lobby. This way you never have to interact with the inferior arcade “gamers.”
Again, private lobby. If even this option doesn’t work for, you’re clearly playing in the wrong sandbox with Forza Horizon 2.
Okay look I see you trying to break apart a comment into an argument. When I said kids I meant kids not childish adults. But like I said it’s their game they can do what they want. There should just be better ways to get people together based on genre like in the car clubs. It would be cool if you could search free roam lobbies based on the event. Free roam cruise lobby, drift lobby, anything goes lobby etc.
I appreciate you clarifying. And while I don’t agree with your choice of words, I can respect that you understand what I mean by my earlier comment. That said, the issue you’ve identified is nothing new … not for a Forza title nor for any other racing title on the console market. Public lobbies are, for the most part, free-for-all sessions and, given these are videogames, that is the way they will always be. Now, it is of my opinion that Xbox and Turn 10 Studios have provided a fair amount of tools for gamers to befriend and come together to play games the way they want to play them. As I’ve suggested, private lobbies are the ideal platform for you and your buddies to get together, set ground rules, and run as much a simulation as you desire. It’s just a matter of you, the end user, doing what you can to find those like-minded gamers and to make time to do all the things you suggested you would rather do than be surrounded by a bunch of hooligans.
In the end, many members have posted the most reasonable response: Horizon 2 is not intended to be any sort of product of proper racing etiquette. Hell, the basis of the gameplay lends itself to be played otherwise. It is only when we, as gamers, get upset by how others choose to play the game that ideas of how things should or should not be get thrown around without merit. The fact of the matter is, Turn 10 has devised two different series for the Forza brand and for good reason: one is intended to replicate a closed circuit, motorsport environment; the other, a no-holds-barred open world game where points are issued for style and destruction over cleanliness and sportsmanship. The proof is in the pudding and it is up to you, as a consumer, to delineate one Forza title from the other–no one can possibly suggest Turn 10 make two separate series that are both intended to mimic good-conduct racing. In fact, many will rightfully claim the very reason Horizon exists is to break from the mold that is Forza Motorsport and to offer variety in a genre of racing games that, until Horizon’s arrival, outright lacked sheer quality. To me, Horizon fills the void perfectly as an alternative to the Motorsport series.
OP, I’m just pointing something out, here. I love the Forza franchise as a whole. The two series within the franchise mean different things to me. Motorsport means serious car racing: closed circuits, fender-to-fender racing. Hardcore competition. Horizon represents the fun, relaxed, “what’s over here?” side of driving cars. True, there is racing here as well, but exploration is encouraged. It’s a fun, more arcade-style game that still has the Forza DNA, but in a free roaming cruising game. Keep this in mind for the future, and you won’t feel like you wasted your hard-earned money on a game that isn’t what you really wanted.
The only gripe I have about the dynamic is the ability for someone to finish last in every race of an online road trip but Podium 1st, because all they did was skill chain the entire series. There needs to be more reward for better driving and finishing instead of sandbagging and pretending you are in Tanner Faust’s underoos all day.
Tanner Foust would skill-chain the entire series and still win. That’s the difference, these guys don’t even try, they just sit at the start and skill-chain and then make sure they got tons of points and make it to the next event.
I think to get any points for a race, you ought to make it to at least a certain percentage of completion for that event.
There is no statistic on your stats page that indicates how many times you have won the XP battle in an online race series…so personally I could care less…if I win a race…it goes in my stats