Forza 5 Street Racing

Forza Motorsport Legacy Motorsport FM5 Discussion
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First off i will copy and past this…

"I think the game you are looking for is Grid Autosport. I would hardly call Forza Horizon rubbish. It may not be your cup of tea, but your opinion doesn’t degrade the quality or caliber of the game in any way.

Have fun with Grid :slight_smile:

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I know… learn to code and program games, create your own studio, get an Xbox Dev Kit and license to make an Indie Game, and make the game exactly the way you want it. Don’t forget to get licensing for the cars unless you want to take the GTA approach but I bet their driving simulation is, as you put it, “rubbish”.

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That was the 5th post and from there everyone has kept on about forza horizon 2 (mainly in a sarcastic fashion, more over i know what the ISR guys said i watched both videos and then some. And i saw with my own eyes how the car/s handled you could see a mile off it was on rails so please dont talk down to me just because i havent played it yet.
And again it was my own opinion that it was rubbish, if you must have my honest opinion it reminded me of need for speed most wanted infact it handled just like that.
I also said i didnt know about the paint decal features in horizon original, as i didnt bother with it much, and the tuning with a full day and a half as i wasnt working, yes i could judge and find out all i needed to know.
If you have the time you will be surprised at what hours you can put in sadly it was nothing like FM4 and didnt appeal to me at all, as for the drifting it was no where near it was more power slides if there was only one car that could possibly give the impression it could drift due to it not being a front wheel drive like the majority are / were and that happened to be everybodys favourate american muscle ok maybe not everybodys.
and mainly no i never ASKED for any arcade gameplay i said forza motorsports 5 but on the streets how does that make it arcade infact i think if anything it would bring you closer to reality because lets face it illegal or not it happens be it in car parks, main roads onto round abouts. and ofcourse so do accidents i never once said anything about wanting arcade at all.

And to finalize tuning options are one thing having the handling and race physics of FM5 is another which i will say again IT WONT HAVE…

Because if it did it would no longer be Horizon it might just aswell be called forza 6

More over

“arcade rubbish”
“essentially it will be arcade rubbish again”
“fanboy sarcasm”
“immature snyde ****”
“before mouthing off making yourself look like an idiot”
“we got **** slapped hard”
“first Horizon was not even close to what i was expecting, it was **** all the way round the board”

The above is not snyde sarcastic or hostile they were my personal opinion of the game they were not directed at any one person or group.

Ohh and before you try to point it out you may want to take a look back through as to why this “before mouthing off making yourself look like an idiot” was said.

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I have not bashed anyone what i said was its arcade rubbish, to which i put forward the notion that imo as said before its not “forza motorsport” so generally petrol heads like myself would turn there nose up at it im not saying all did or would but i know pretty much everyone i have spoken to ditched the game for the exact reasons i put forward several times now.
Sure it was to pull in more custom and give those who thought FM was to hard a learning curve, but for teh rest of us that waited in anticpation wanting so badly for it to be FM4 but on the streets we got bitch slapped hard.
So again my point wasnt to come here and bash it was to ask other racers much like your self what you thought of the idea as to if you would love it or hate it, so that quite possibly it may give the big wigs here a heads up on what they could possibly do next.

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And we do know look up through the ISR guys they have raw in game footage previews etc talking about the game and state if your not in it for arcade racing you might want to turn off the video…

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So… did you watch the video? Or did you turn it off?

I just watched this video (I assume it’s the one you reference): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZwfYTo-dEo

He repeatedly comments on how it is “arcade gameplay with simulation physics.”

Now, I don’t know about anyone else, but to me the whole idea of “open world” and / or “street racing” is arcade by definition. Driving across fields, through fences, bouncing off safety rails and buildings, dodging other cars, etc, etc, etc… is pretty far from “simulation racing.” A game where you race on purpose-built circuit tracks - or at the least, closed-off streets being temporarily used as a track - is how I define simulation racing.

So, from what you’ve been saying, it sounds like you want simulation physics in an arcade racer - you just don’t want anyone calling it an arcade racer.

And, from what we’re seeing - including ISR reviews and commentary - that’s exactly the target Forza Horizon 2 is aiming for.

Sounds like you’re getting your wish!

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No i dont think people are getting it, the physics in “Forza Horizon 2” will not match that of “Forza motorsports 5” in terms of how the cars handle and react, i have seen the video’s and it handles like its on rails in true arcade fashion.
So no it does not compare to what im trying to suggest, so no forza horizon 2 will not be the game…

In the end while “Horizon 2” is a street race game it just doesnt have the physics / handling of FM5 which is my main point imagine taking out the tracks from forza 5 and putting in a state then your on my wave length the story doesnt matter doesnt even need to be one, but to be open world set up races a little bit like what they did on Fast & furious 2 (i think it was) where Vin & paul were racing and it was loaded up to sat nav or something and they could take short cuts as long as they got to the destination and crossed the line <regardless story side dont matter…

Point is having that freedom with the phyrics / handling of FM5 on open road come on it would be awesome wouldnt it ? sure its would give you a challenge but it would also be some serious fun and the ultimate rush.

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I didn’t know that I’ve not been following it to closely to be honest, maybe what your talking about could be a pgr5 with more sim style physics? To be fair I would never class forza 5 as sim only simcade but that’s just my opinion

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Well to be fair if you ask yourself what qualifies as a sim racer i think you will find Forza does pretty well to tick all the boxes, while it may not be iRacing or what ever its called on PC its certainly no Need for speed shift, regardless i value your point fair play to you…

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Just a suggestion, PGCD, but maybe you should wait to see if Horizon 2 is the game you really want. I’m pretty sure it has a lot in common with FM5, and I expect a demo to be released within a few weeks. I’m not intending to be a Horizon Fanboy (Not that I need to try… LOL, I’m actually trying to set my fanboyishness aside, really), I’m just suggesting you try it before you decide you don’t like it. Unless you have gotten your hands on a demo already, in which case I’ll just sit quietly in the corner and contemplate where I went wrong.

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@Draconem - Based on your OP it seems like the two things you were really looking for were tuning options and painting options. Horizon 1 already had pretty much the same painting options as FM4 and I think it’s safe to assume that H2 will have similar options to FM5. As far as tuning - that was definitely missing from Horizon 1. But I’m pretty sure that tuning has been confirmed for Horizon 2.

I guess that last point will be the physics and I agree that they were not the same in Horizon as the were in FM4. I don’t expect the physics in Horizon 2 to be exactly the same as FM5 but I do expect them to be better than Horizon 1.

I think your points are fair and to have street racing with Motorsport physics would be cool. But I think you’ve already written off Horizon 2 and I don’t agree with that. It’s definitely going to be a game aimed at a slightly different audience than the Motorsport games but I still think it will be good and I also think the physics will be much improved over Horizon 1. I suspect it will be the closest you’re going to get to what you’re looking for and, if you give it a chance, maybe you’ll like it. Don’t write it off just yet. :wink:

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No my friend you have grasped the wrong end of the stick, i was refering to forza motorsports driving physics in a street race environment i suppose you could say in a more underground environment.

And that forza horizon does not have, its tuning capabilitys are way to simple and do NOT allow for a propper tune at best the upgrades if you will, barely let the car react any different to what it did as a standard they just go faster, and from what i remember the cars handling was native to that of some of the more recent need for speeds on xbox 360.

In terms of the painting of cars etc that may hold true i dont recall, as said a day and a half and i had traded it in, and judging by the Inside Sim Racing reviews and footage the same can be said for horizon 2 no matter how pretty you make it look.
So its deffinatly not a trademark Forza Motorsport game, you can slap as many Turn 10 logos and forza labels on it as you want that fact wont change anything.

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The first forza had a few city street tracks. It has been a long time since I played it so I’m not sure how many played and PGR also had tracks on city streets.

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Forza open world racing sim All the great things that is Motorsport but open world. I wonder if T10 would laser scan the entire island of Manhattan.

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If only i would love to rant my lamborghini Veneno 2013 round the streets especially once i get my new wheel & pedals been waiting to see what madcatz have to offer in terms of pedal & gear shifter options.
Also i did msg Thrustmaster about there 458 italia wheels for XB1 to ask for a no nonsence responce about there dodgy race wheel faults (as in did they figure it out) and stop it happening to future stock.

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that would be cool

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Horizon was pretty fun.

I consider myself more of a SIM guy than an arcade guy by a very, very long stretch. Horizon of course had arcadey type features and no tuning, but I found the handling of the cars to be fairly enjoyable. If you approached the game from a racing perspective, you could definitely have fun with it. I did. I thought it was better than any Need for Speed or arcade racer I had played to that point. I really enjoyed the rally expansion thing, too.

Don’t judge Horizon 2 before it comes out. It may just be the street racing experience you’re going for. It uses the same engine as Forza 5, so the physical aspects of the game are likely to be fairly realistic. Sure, you’ll probably be able to powerslide across 50 yards of grass through fences and all manner of destructible roadside objects, but if you keep it on the tarmac, I’m sure there will be some of the Forza soul in there somewhere. I’m going to give it a fair shot.

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Street racing is for idiots therefore it will never be a sim.

/thread.

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Thats your opinion, and fair do’s point was which you obviously missed was it was just a suggestion where by i was asking what other people thought of the idea.

No one said i asked them to make it hence its not under the suggestions / ideas topics thread.

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Part of me wants to bite my tongue because there are some very famous road races ie Targa Florio, but there are reasons things like this are stopped.

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Correct me if im wrong but your asking for street racing from T10 yes? street racing in forza yes?
Isnt Prague a street course isnt new york a street course ? there are more :wink:

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No im talking all the roads you can ask for cross roads, intersections, hard shoulders, round abouts actual streets NOT a layed out course set to be essentialy a track race.

And ok yes so horizon does have that but what it doesnt have is Forza Motorsport 4 and the same will go for horizon 2 and FM5 you can see it for your self inside sim racing shows you 2 videos alone.
And theres more out there previewing the game talk etc …
Im possotive no matter what they claim they are doing to it, it CANT change that dramaticaly because then they would essentially be taking away what made the game.
As in what made the game appeal to the likers, if tehy did change it up and alter its drive type they may aswell slit there own throats.

Because its not going to make the majority happy UNLESS the majority are having the same thought as me and turn 10 did something about it and basicaly used FM5 and just chucked it onto the streets of colerado enough said.