[Discussion] Were you Satisfied with the Contents of the Car Pass?

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I’d like to see what the forum community has to say about the Car Pass as a whole. This thread is merely meant to generate discussion and feedback about and on the Car Pass, not to harass others, not to drop every car you want in here, not about Barn Finds, Forzathon, or anything else unrelated to the topic at hand. In addition, this thread, as the title would imply, covers information about the Car Pass cars, not DLC cars obtained from other means such as VIP and Blizzard Mountain. I started this thread as an opportunity for players to express their feelings about the Car Pass contents, hopefully sharing pieces of advice or fun facts with each other and/or as feedback for Turn 10 on how to go about Car Passes in the future. This likely will have little to no effect on the Car Pass for FM7, but it may serve as a helpful guide for them when selecting cars to go into each pack.

If you want to say what cars you’d like to see added into this game, please use this thread.

As a reminder of what we have gotten, we’ve received a total of 42 extra cars for $29.99. Use whatever currency applies to you if needed.

The October Smoking Tire Car Pack

  • 2016 Aston Martin Vulcan
  • 2000 Lotus 340R
  • 2016 Pagani Huayra BC
  • 2010 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
  • 2016 [Spania GTA] GTA Spano
  • 2016 BMW M2 Coupe
  • 1976 Jeep CJ-5 Renegade

The November Alpinestars Car Pack

  • 2017 Acura NSX
  • 1998 Nissan Silvia K’s (S14)
  • 1990 Mazda Savannah RX-7
  • 1967 Ford Falcon XR GT
  • 2016 Dodge Viper ACR
  • 2016 BMW M4 GTS
  • 1979 Talbot Lotus Sunbeam

The December Logitech G Car Pack

  • 2015 Bentley EXP 10 Speed 6 Concept
  • 2014 Morgan 3 Wheeler
  • 1965 Pontiac GTO
  • 2017 Jaguar F-PACE S
  • 1996 HSV GTSR
  • 2017 Mercedes-AMG GT R
  • 1992 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo 2.0 GT

The January Rockstar Energy Car Pack

  • 2015 BMW i8
  • 2015 Volvo V60 Polestar
  • 2015 Radical RXC Turbo
  • 1972 Ford Falcon XA GT-HO
  • 1987 Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31)
  • 2014 Ford #11 Rockstar F-150 Trophy Truck
  • 2016 Bentley Bentayga

The February Playseat Car Pack

  • 1985 HDT VK Commodore Group A
  • 1990 Renault Alpine GTA Le Mans
  • 2016 Cadillac ATS-V
  • 2017 Aston Martin DB11
  • 2016 Vauxhall Corsa VXR
  • 1970 Honda S800
  • 2016 Honda Civic Type R

The March Duracell Car Pack

  • 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
  • 2015 Jaguar XES
  • 1992 Ford Falcon GT
  • 1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution
  • 1995 Nissan NISMO GT-R LM
  • 1959 BMW 507
  • 1972 Land Rover Series III

Some fun statistics:
-The average year of a Car Pass DLC car is: 2001 (Ironically there are no DLC cars from 2001)
-The most common year of a Car Pass DLC car is: 2016 (10 of 42 cars)
-The most common decade of a Car Pass DLC car is: 2010s (23 of 42 cars)
-The most common country of a Car Pass DLC car is: UK* (11 of 42 cars)
-The most common division of a Car Pass DLC car is: Asian Sports Cars (5 of 42 cars)
-The most common brand of a Car Pass DLC car is: Ford (5 of 42 cars)

WARNING: DATA OVERLOAD

BREAKDOWN BY DECADE/YEAR:

1930s: 0
1940s: 0
1950s: 1
-1959 BMW 507
1960s: 2
-1965 Pontiac GTO
-1967 Ford Falcon XR GT
1970s: 5

  • 1970 Honda S800
  • 1972 Ford Falcon XA GT-HO
  • 1972 Land Rover Series III
  • 1976 Jeep CJ-5 Renegade
  • 1979 Talbot Lotus Sunbeam
    1980s: 3
  • 1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution
  • 1985 HDT VK Commodore Group A
  • 1987 Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31)
    1990s: 7
  • 1990 Mazda Savannah RX-7
  • 1990 Renault Alpine GTA Le Mans
  • 1992 Ford Falcon GT
  • 1992 Toyota Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo
  • 1995 Nissan NISMO GT-R LM
  • 1996 HSV GTSR
  • 1998 Nissan Silvia K’s (S14)
    2000s: 1
  • 2000 Lotus 340R
    2010s: 23
  • 2010 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
  • 2014 Ford #11 Rockstar F-150 Trophy Truck
  • 2014 Morgan 3 Wheeler
  • 2015 Bentley EXP 10 Speed 6 Concept
  • 2015 BMW i8
  • 2015 Jaguar XES
  • 2015 Radical RXC Turbo
  • 2015 Volvo V60 Polestar
  • 2016 Aston Martin Vulcan
  • 2016 Bentley Bentayga
  • 2016 BMW M2 Coupe
  • 2016 BMW M4 GTS
  • 2016 Cadillac ATS-V
  • 2016 Dodge Viper ACR
  • 2016 Honda Civic Type R
  • 2016 Pagani Huayra BC
  • 2016 Spania GTA GTA Spano
  • 2016 Vauxhall Corsa VXR
  • 2017 Acura NSX
  • 2017 Aston Martin DB11
  • 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
  • 2017 Jaguar F-PACE S
  • 2017 Mercedes-AMG GT R

BREAKDOWN BY COUNTRY:

(*Note: While the Ford Falcons are listed under Ford, which is American, I placed them in the Australia category. US and UK would’ve otherwise tied for the most cars. I did also place Acura under US, although it really should be under Japan)
Australia: 5

  • 1967 Ford Falcon XR GT
  • 1972 Ford Falcon XA GT-HO
  • 1985 HDT VK Commodore Group A
  • 1992 Ford Falcon GT
  • 1996 HSV GTSR
    France: 2
  • 1979 Talbot Lotus Sunbeam
  • 1990 Renault Alpine GTA Le Mans
    Germany: 5
  • 1959 BMW 507
  • 2015 BMW i8
  • 2016 BMW M2 Coupe
  • 2016 BMW M4 GTS
  • 2017 Mercedes-AMG GT R
    Italy: 1
  • 2016 Pagani Huayra BC
    Japan: 7
  • 1970 Honda S800
  • 1987 Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31)
  • 1990 Mazda Savannah RX-7
  • 1992 Toyota Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo
  • 1995 Nissan NISMO GT-R LM
  • 1998 Nissan Silvia K’s (S14)
  • 2016 Honda Civic Type R
    Spain: 1
  • 2016 Spania GTA GTA Spano
    Sweden: 2
  • 1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution
  • 2015 Volvo V60 Polestar
    UK: 11
  • 1972 Land Rover Series III
  • 2000 Lotus 340R
  • 2014 Morgan 3 Wheeler
  • 2015 Bentley EXP 10 Speed 6 Concept
  • 2015 Jaguar XES
  • 2015 Radical RXC Turbo
  • 2016 Aston Martin Vulcan
  • 2016 Bentley Bentayga
  • 2016 Vauxhall Corsa VXR
  • 2017 Aston Martin DB11
  • 2017 Jaguar F-PACE S
    US: 8
  • 1965 Pontiac GTO
  • 1976 Jeep CJ-5 Renegade
  • 2010 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
  • 2014 Ford #11 Rockstar F-150 Trophy Truck
  • 2016 Cadillac ATS-V
  • 2016 Dodge Viper ACR
  • 2017 Acura NSX
  • 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1

BREAKDOWN BY BRAND:

Acura: 1

  • 2017 NSX
    Aston Martin: 2
  • 2016 Vulcan
  • 2017 DB11
    Bentley: 2
  • 2015 EXP 10 Speed 6 Concept
  • 2016 Bentayga
    BMW: 4
  • 1959 507
  • 2015 i8
  • 2016 M2 Coupe
  • 2016 M4 GTS
    Cadillac: 1
  • 2016 ATS-V
    Chevrolet: 1
  • 2017 Camaro ZL1
    Dodge: 1
  • 2016 Viper ACR
    Ford: 5
  • 1967 Falcon XR GT
  • 1972 Falcon XA GT-HO
  • 1992 Falcon GT
  • 2010 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
  • 2014 #11 Rockstar F-150 Trophy Truck
    HDT: 1
  • 1985 VK Commodore Group A
    Honda: 2
  • 1970 S800
  • 2016 Civic Type R
    HSV: 1
  • 1996 GTSR
    Jaguar: 2
  • 2015 XES
  • 2017 F-PACE S
    Jeep: 1
    -1976 CJ-5 Renegade
    Land Rover: 1
  • 1972 Series III
    Lotus: 1
  • 2000 340R
    Mazda: 1
  • 1990 Savannah RX-7
    Mercedes-AMG: 1
  • 2017 GT R
    Morgan: 1
  • 2014 3 Wheeler
    Nissan: 3
  • 1987 Skyline GTS-R (R31)
  • 1995 NISMO GT-R LM
  • 1998 Silvia K’s (S14)
    Pagani: 1
  • 2016 Huayra BC
    Pontiac: 1
  • 1965 GTO
    Radical: 1
  • 2015 RXC Turbo
    Renault: 1
  • 1990 Alpine GTA Le Mans
    Spania GTA: 1
  • 2016 GTA Spano
    Talbot: 1
  • 1979 Lotus Sunbeam
    Toyota: 1
  • 1992 Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo
    Vauxhall: 1
  • 2016 Corsa VXR
    Volvo: 2
  • 1983 242 Turbo Evolution
  • 2015 V60 Polestar

BREAKDOWN BY DIVISION:

Modern Supercars: 3

  • 2015 BMW i8
  • 2016 Spania GTA GTA Spano
  • 2017 Acura NSX
    Retro Supercars: 0
    Hypercars: 2
  • 2016 Aston Martin Vulcan
  • 2016 Pagani Huayra BC
    Extreme Track Toys: 2
  • 2000 Lotus 340R
  • 2015 Radical RXC TUrbo
    Asian Sports Cars: 5
  • 1987 Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31)
  • 1990 Mazda Savannah RX-7
  • 1992 Toyota Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo
  • 1995 Nissan NISMO GT-R LM
  • 1998 Nissan Silvia K’s (S14)
    European Sports Cars: 1
  • 2016 BMW M2 Coupe
    GT Cars: 1
  • 2015 Bentley EXP 10 Speed 6 Concept
    Super GT Cars: 2
  • 2017 Aston Martin DB11
  • 2017 Mercedes-AMG GT R
    Super Saloons: 3
  • 2015 Jaguar XES
  • 2015 Volvo V60 Polestar
  • 2016 BMW M4 GTS
    Retro Saloons: 0
    Modern Muscle: 3
  • 2016 Cadillac ATS-V
  • 2016 Dodge Viper ACR
  • 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
    Retro Muscle: 4
  • 1985 HDT VK Commodore Group A
  • 1992 Ford Falcon GT
  • 1996 HSV GTSR
  • 2010 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
    Classic Muscle: 3
  • 1965 Pontiac GTO
  • 1967 Ford Falcon XR GT
  • 1972 Ford Falcon XA GT-HO
    Hot Hatch: 1
  • 2016 Vauxhall Corsa VXR
    Super Hot Hatch: 1
  • 2016 Honda Civic Type R
    Retro Hot Hatch: 0
    Cult Classics: 3
  • 1970 Honda S800
  • 1990 Renault Alpine GTA Le Mans
  • 2014 Morgan 3 Wheeler
    Classic Racers: 0
    Rare Classics: 1
  • 1959 BMW 507
    Classic Rally: 2
  • 1979 Talbot Lotus Sunbeam
  • 1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution
    Modern Rally: 0
    Group B Monsters: 0
    Retro Rally: 0
    Offroad: 2
  • 1972 Land Rover Series III
  • 1976 Jeep CJ-5 Renegade
    Extreme Offroad: 1
  • 2014 Ford #11 Rockstar F-150 Trophy Truck
    Sports Utility Heroes: 2
  • 2016 Bentley Bentayga
  • 2017 Jaguar F-PACE S
    Buggy: 0

Small interesting notes:

-Of all the brands featured in the Car Pass, four of them were otherwise not in the game at all, with three of them ( HDT, Spania GTA, Talbot) being entirely new to the franchise. The fourth is Morgan, last featured in FM4, in case you were wondering.

-Many of these cars were highly requested, including the BMW i8, the most requested car.

Back to the question ultimately at hand, are you satisfied with the contents of the car pack? Personally, I believe the car packs as a whole were rather varied in car selection, with most divisions in this game receiving at least one more car to their roster, and despite the majority of the cars belonging to the 2010s category, there were enough older cars to nearly break even to the millennium.

Some questions you may answer in your response if you wish.

  • What was your favorite car pack? Why?
  • What was your least favorite car pack? Why?
  • What was your favorite car? Why?
  • What was your least favorite car? Why?
  • Do you feel the value per monetary unit was in your favor? Why or why not?
  • Do you feel the price should be raised, lowered, or remain the same?
  • Would you like to see the Car Pass covered to include all future DLC packs, at a higher cost?

Above all else, I leave all of you with this suggestion.

PLEASE DO NOT: Insult, harass, or offend any other user or possible Turn 10 member in this thread. Everyone has their own opinions about this game and its DLC; you can disagree with someone without resorting to a fight. None of you are wrong, none of you are right. That’s how opinions work.

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I’m satisified, as I know not to expect everything I want, yet I respect the cars that they’ve added, and I even have some new favorites!

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I am not satisfied with the PI system in the game. I am not satisfied that cars are added that can not hit max pi in any class. I am not satisfied with engine swaps. I want cars sounding like v8s that can compete.

If these things were different then i would be satisfied with the car selection in the car pass. So i am not critcising the car pass contents but more the base game not allowing the car variety to really shine.

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can you tell me what happens after March? Can you still get these cars? I don’t understand the car pass in full and I. Ant see a good explanation anywhere.

I know you can buy the all car pass and you get all cars released until March but what after that? Are they just available to anyone to buy using CR?

Thanks in advance.

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Im satisfied but not happy. There is an abundence of cars missing such as the EG Civic, Lexus IS300 and the De Tomaso pantera, cars that have appeared in the past and were loved but are ignored now due to supposedly new better cars and reskins which truly and frankly, in lesser terms than i can say. Annoy me. The M3 GTS, Hyura race thing and the new Camaro. All just cars that they made a change or 2 to make “new”.

I know times change but the community cried for these cars and were ignored. Even Forza 4 did a better job with more cars from DLC and even more free ones. Still the graphics, gameplay and just overall new content has kept me pretty happy as a PC gamer but i dont feel i will be buying Forza motorsport 7 unless they bring back Fumiji Kaido and a good list of cars to kick. Well done playground for getting my sale on PC but as for the next one, prove us you listen.

ps. dont give out an unpacked version of the game next time, you know we are so going to mod it and have real cars now due to your mistake.

pps. im a long time fan playing since Forza 3 in 07 on another account.

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Yeah.
28/42 cars were from my interest.
If I were to buy them separated it would cost way more than the whole car pass package, so I guess it was worth it.

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Excellent info breakdown! Love it.

I agree with SatNiteEduardo, it’s frustrating when cars aren’t given parts to reach the top of their class. It would be something of a mental comfort to know that there are licensing restrictions that prevent the developers from doing it, because otherwise it seems like they aren’t taking advantage of their power to make any upgrade possible.

I enjoy pretty much any car because I’m always learning something new. I never knew about a lot of these models.
Though I don’t play cops and robbers, I liked the addition of a police car with active lights for the potential of photo/video shoots, or just multiplayer fun.
The most fun to drive car for me has been the Morgan 3-Wheeler. Plus it’s great having that variety of style in the game.
My favorite car is probably the Renault Alpine GTA, which I find pretty good for A-class tarmac courses. I love those 80s wedge design cars. The BMW 507 might be the most beautiful design.
I’ve also had a lot of fun in the Jeep CJ-5 for offroading.
Favorite pack overall might be the October Smoking Tire but I’ve used/enjoyed cars from each, so it’s hard to pick a least favorite.
As a decade, I’ve probably used mid-1990s cars the least.
Glad they got the Silvia and the i8 in the game so the calls to add them would subside.

There are plenty of comments about the Car Pass not covering all DLC, but I’m never bothered by it. Ultimately my wallet is my Car Pass, and I don’t find it difficult to go in the game and make that purchase. I don’t have the bandwidth limitations that some regions do, or the budget limitations that students do. The price doesn’t bother me. I suppose I can understand the perspective that players will make the entry investment in the game and then feel like they’re over a barrel of buying further released content or missing out, but in the end everyone has to make their own value judgement about what is worth buying.

The other thing to keep in mind is that the “Car Pass” isn’t really its own thing, it’s just a discount on other existing things. So has T10’s DLC offering been good? Has it been worth it? At a buck-per-car, I’d say yes. Adding cars helps keep the traffic fresh even if I never drive them myself. By comparison the song list feels much more repetitive (of course there’s the bypass adding many more songs yourself with Groove).

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Great to see that overall, people were happy with what they got.

I figured if anyone here would, it’d be you :slight_smile:

Took me around three hours to do too, so I’m glad someone does!

Rather than remain anonymous, I should put in my own feedback.

Overall, I am satisfied with the Car Pass. Of all the gripes I have with the game/franchise as of 2017, the car roster never was bad, and the DLC wasn’t either. I have received a few of my personal wishlist cars in the Car Pass, as well as finding some that I hope make it in to the next game.

I do completely understand the complaints with the PI system though. I can easily see why that would diminish your enjoyment of the cars, even if you didn’t think many (if any) of them were bad.

My favorite car pack was a tie between the October and February car packs. I felt both packs entirely suited my vehicular interests or interested me enough to try them out.

My least favorite car pack was the January car pack. I did love the addition of the i8 and the R31, and I’ve come around to the XA and RXC. The Bentley and F-150 TT didn’t particularly suit me though, and the Volvo felt redundant. Not bad, just redundant.

My favorite car…honestly…this was a pretty bad question :slight_smile: If you were to ask me what my favorite car is in real life, I’d ask you under what parameters. “My favorite 80s wagon is…My favorite 90s supercar is…My favorite underappreciated car is…”. Nice to see a couple Renault Alpine GTA comments though! I think it’s a great car myself!

My least favorite car was probably the Bentley Bentayga. This isn’t a bad car, I’m just not really a fan of high-end luxury cars and SUVs. Needless to say, a high-end luxury SUV isn’t on the top of my enjoyment list.

Overall, I do think the value was good for the dollar I put in. I’d bring up examples of games I spent the same or less amount of money on, but those were all on sale. Come to think of it, it was a great value for the money, because I technically got it free! (Amazon Prime member; got the Ultimate Edition for the price of the Deluxe Edition)

As stands, I feel the price is fine where it is.

I would like to see the Car Pass cover all the monthly car packs (at higher cost), but I’m not horribly bothered by the current system as is. A cost vs. content ratio favors adding more. $30 for six packs vs. $50 for 11…that does require T10/PG release 11 packs though.

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I do like that they have added Aussie cars but almost all of them seem to be handling beasts that struggle for top end even with engine swaps. Not sure why that may be.

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I would say overall I was pretty happy with the cars added, it’s the base game and problems within it that I’m not happy with. Obviously there are a few cars I really wanted to come in like the 675lt, BMW Z8 And Z3 and a whole load of others but I go into a car pack expecting nothing so that way it always surprises me. I was happy with a lot of the cars added and out of the whole pass I would say there was only a handful I didn’t care for. Honestly the car pass is like a lucky dip. You win some you lose some and I think mostly it’s bin a win not a lose. I also do love the variety you get with the car pass. I’ve never really driven Australian cars so driving them was really cool and I’ve grown quite fond of them. So the variety and boldness of the car pack I appreciate for making me take a second look at cars I would previously had not even glanced at.

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I’m okay with the cars in general, there have been cars added that I really like from all ages. The one major disappointment though is this: for a game where the buggy class was introduced with a lot of fanfare and marketing we have seen ZERO new buggies. :frowning: And that for a car class that is already so little represented in a game with a lot of offroad content. I was also rather shocked they added that Volvo V60 as a payed DLC car while it’s just the same as the S60 but in wagon version. But then again, that same update we got that lovely classic Volvo as a barn find as well.

On the positive side, I live in Belgium and even I really liked how they kept putting out more Holdens and Ford AUS cars with the DLC packs. I’m happy for the Australian fans who probably don’t see their cars in any other game and I have to admit, it was fun for me to experience Australian car culture as well. Before FH3 I never even heard about a ute. :slight_smile:

However this is probably the last time ever I buy any ultimate edition or car pack for the Forza franchise. 80-90% of what you get is free in the next release somewhere between 6-12 months anyway. I didn’t buy any of the DLC car packs after my FM6 ultimate edition ran out, not because I can’t afford it but simply out of protest. No game should ever have more cars than the garage can hold. Anyway, 6 months later the majority of those cars I missed out were in the base game of FH3 anyway which made the FH3 start for me that much more enjoyable as well. Planning to do the exact same thing now, even though I think they did it right with the garage car limit and the amount of cars in FH3, I’m simply not interested anymore. Even now I barely play the game anymore. Once you do all the exhibitions and championships there is little left to enjoy, especially with this ridiculous AI difficulty behavior.

I don’t even think I will get FM7, if it’s just going to feel FM6.1 with offroad and trophy trucks then I’m not interested at all. They seriously gotta revamp the core of their game, get rid of the ridiculous “assists” and make it more realistic. Project CARS 2 looks a lot more interesting to me, I’m super hyped about that one! I’ll make the final decision on FM7 once they announce the game though but so far I think I will just pass. Turn 10 simply don’t have the guts to really revamp their game IMO. If in FM7 you can again import tunes form previous games then they already failed because that means nothing has changed at all. Maybe if I want a second game next to PCARS2 I should just give GT Sport a try since I now got a PS4 Pro anyway (bought it for Horizon Zero Dawn - amazing game and a nice refreshment from all the racing games I’ve been playing the past 2-3 years). But then again, Polyphony sure isn’t anymore what it used to be with releases being years behind schedule and this silly Vision GT nonsense.

Anyway that’s how I feel now. I really do hope that Turn 10 get a grip on themselves and that they start putting some innovation in their game again. FM6 was just a copy/paste of FM5 with more cars and tracks but for the rest the exact same thing. Playground did a FAR better job with FH3 compared to FH2. But all that is nothing if you see what SMS is doing with PCARS2 compared to PCARS1… ooh boy.

In the end we are all racing fans, whether its arcade racers or sim racers. Some like to tune, some paint, some take photos all day long, some just race. I’m someone that really wants realism and immersion and FM6 simply cannot give me that, the entire game is way too arcade. But that is my personal opinion. For the FH series though, apart from the silly AI behavior I think Playground had it spot on. I’ve seen quite a lot of complaints here about FH3 how FH2 and even FH1 were better. I never understood that, for me FH3 seriously blows its predecessors out of the water.

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double post

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I agree with a lot of your post, apart from the bolded part, and the comment about FH3 being better than 1/2. As long as they give the option for people to still use the assists, I’m okay with them going a more sim type route (as an option) for those that want it.

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I appreciate the variety. I rarely use the cars in the DLC though because most don’t fit my taste. I love the FC RX7, NSX, and Viper ACR though. I won’t make this a wish thread, but I’m just a little disappointed certain cars were cut from the game even though they appeared in previous current gen iterations.

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FH3 was my first Forza title ( well apart from the free FM6 Apex) and I went for the ultimate edition so I had no “previous”… after the disappointment of the PC experience I even went and bought the Xbox One S and 40" 4K to feed my addiction… Still wish they would fix it on the PC as I have a 5K setup…

Getting back to the packs that were part of the Carpass…

I am basically happy with whatever we get in the carpacks as by and large they are derived wherever possible from the community “wish list” rather than individual preference…

I’m not into the online scene so haven’t really got into tuning etc but is SNE says there are issues then I guess there must be…

Lately I have been playing a lot of FH2 and FM6 and have bought a lot of the DLC for them as well enjoyed the “Porsches” and even NASCAR !!!

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I am very disappointed with the car pass.

The reason is because I am very disappointed in the PI system. The expense of handling options and the cheapness of horsepower has made this game and especially car choices uninteresting. In Horizon 2 the car pass was awesome because those cars were fun to build and race. The cars in Horizon 3 just aren’t as much fun to build and race because of the PI system. So any new cars added through the car pass aren’t really adding anything new. I have over 400 cars as it is and only race about 25 of them.

I love lots of things about Horizon 3 like blueprints and choosing online class. But the PI build system pretty much ruins the joy of building and testing cars since the system forces you into speed rather than handling builds. If you don’t build for speed you are uncompetitive. If they ever make a Horizon 4 I hope they harken back the balanced PI days of Horizon 2 and ditch this ridiculous H3 model.

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The PI system is flawed, but honestly that wouldn’t matter if the roads were more technical and had tight switchbacks. The roads are wide and relatively straight which focus solely on top speed. That’s the main reason I like Surfers Paradise races, that’s the closest I can get to technical PAVED roads.

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There hasn’t been many cars in the packs that I’ve really liked. All-in-all, I kinda regret going all in on the Ultimate Edition.

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More than satisfied as being a car fan I love discovering vehicles I haven’t heard of or been able to try in other racing games. Sure there are plenty of cars I would personally like to see in the game but I’m not going to complain because I have been satisfied in another way.

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Overall I think the Car Pass was pretty good. Most of the packs had a few cars I was interested in, and a couple I didn’t care about. Although, the January pack was the weakest for me, 4 of the cars were really poor in my opinion (Volvo, Trophy Truck, Falcon and Bentley). My favourite car from the car pass is a tough choice, the Lotus 340R, Talbot Sunbeam, FK2 Civic, Alpine and GT-R LM are probably my top 5 though. I didn’t expect to ever see the 340R or Sunbeam in Forza, so those additions were fantastic for me.