Cars around the Nurburgring Nordschleife are slower than I thought

Having tested a few cars in FM around the recently-introduced Nordschleife, I immediately tried out the game’s cover car, the Cadillac V-Series.R, and found it to be very underwhelming even for a prototype built to LMDh/Hypercar standards, where it did 6:29.958.

On the other hand, I also even tried the Mercedes-AMG One, the current lap record holder. In real life, it would do 6:35.183, but in-game, it will do 6:46.848, which is roughly 11.765 seconds slower than the actual car.

I know all tracks are laser-scanned, but I’m really starting to think this is more of a physics issue.

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Hahaha
Are you actually comparing driving times with an arcade game?
What nonsense!

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I know people beating irl track times in Forza with some tuning and people doing the exact same times that IRL with stock cars on track on Forza

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I’ve done a few laps when falling asleep last night but if anything it’s the same as before so f a little faster.

As for real life vs in game, in game should always be faster and the reasoning is apparent if you’ve ever driven a car round the track…it’s great fun but scary. In the game you simply rewind if you get too much grass and hit a barrier where as irl, you get a 3-8000£ bill for damaging the track let alone the “whoops I wrote my car off” bill. The fear factor is what makes games unrealistic.

Anyhoo, I guess what I’m trying to say is don’t let it bother you. It’s a great track and one that was quite needed. Incidentally I managed to lap the Nurbles in 6:28 with the AMG One. Definitely a fun track as always!

Chris

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What’s the point of this post?

Comparing a time set by a professional racing driver (i assume you’re using the Sport Auto times) on a real life circuit vs. yourself is a difference of skill, not a difference of the game, the comparison would be valid if it was the same driver in the same model under the same conditions, the only variable that’s different is one time happens on the real circuit, one happens in the game. Changing one of these variables affects the time a lot, making the test invalid.

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Maybe you’re not as fast as the real life driver?

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Arcade doesn’t mean what you think it means

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You can’t compare it the person driving those cars for the lap times are basically hitting the entire track perfectly you can bet if some of the top guys tested this it would be pretty close

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Sounds like a sub 6:35 is more than possible.

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Firstly, we need to address that you aren’t a test pilot who knows the track and the car like the back of your hand. That you come within 12 seconds is actually absurd.

This should actually be definite proof that the game’s version of the track runs faster than IRL. You would never do a sub-7 lap, assuming you survived at all.

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Stock car, not much done in fine-tuning, first lap.
With fine-tuning, more practice and more skill it’ll easily beat the rl time - as it always has been in Forza.

Tied the record in lap 4:

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I agree. I got my Koenigsegg Jesko to a 6:58 of course incessantly rewinding. I assume that car with a pro driver in real life can do a 6:30 or below. Which puts me 28 seconds higher. Considering I’m nowhere near a pro driver, even in gaming terms, and considering I used a ton of rewind, that seems like they got cars at a pretty realistic pace, for a video game, on the Ring.

Other than the ridiculous Aston Valkyrie AMR Pro which has guys doing under 5 minutes which is laughable and just ruins any semblance of realism.

The AMR Pro is designed to do a lap of Le Mans in 3/20 IRL

Based on the limited track times it’s put out, albeit I don’t recall any at full power and full tilt, it doesn’t seem like it will get close to even going under 6 minutes on the Ring. I don’t know what 3:20 on Le Mans translates to on the Ring.

But I do know the race regulation 919 could easily go 3:16 on Le Mans. A much FASTER version of the 919 (Evo, unregulated) will do even better than that, and it also did a record 5:19 on the Ring.

No way at all is a Valkyrie AMR Pro getting under 5 mins, that’s insanity. Even in video game timing that’s insanity. But that’s where the leaderboard is now.

I wish AM would run it in real life though so we’d know.

The maths say It would be circa 5 min though using the Le Mans time. Sooo

Theoretically they said it will do 5:23 around the ring IIRC. I doubt it’s faster than an LMP1, but it’s faster than the 956 record, so my guess is 5:35-5:50 IRL which is very quick.

Firstly, I’d genuinely like to see your maths for it.
Secondly, nobody gets prizes for theoretical lap times.

The math is pretty simple. (Assuming the designed lap time of 3:20)
Distance travelled / time taken = average speed.

Lap of Le Mans is just shy of 9 miles.
Lap of nord is just shy of 13 miles

It’s faster than a late 90’s formula 1 car around the Silverstone national circuit.

It’s 4 seconds off a Porsche RS Spyder around Laguna Seca, while only running 800 hp, and raised ride height reducing the ground effect WITH a passenger.

It’s no slouch, but it’s probably seconds off of it’s theoretical times.

Like the mighty Mclaren Senna around the ring, we’ll never know. They seem to know it’s the fastest track production car money can buy and that’s evident in the times people have clocked it at off of online videos.

And the problem with that calculation is it assumes the average speed on these two very different tracks is the same, which is certainly not the case.

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