Bathurst Challenge Broken?

Hey everyone so I have done free play and Bathurst in a Ford falcon shell car and done 3 clean laps and it’s not counting am I doing something wrong? Or is it broken? Any help would be great thank you

You have to use an Australian car.

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Eh… the Ford Falcon is very much an Australian car. Seems like a mistake if the game does not list it as such.

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Well Ford is not an Australian brand. It asks for Australian brand. I did a few laps with Holden, a few with HSV and a few with HDT cars.

Which are all Holden. So apparently the game considers that to be the only manufacturer of Australian vehicles.

Yes because it’s about AUSTRALIAN BRANDS. The game can’t differentiate between a Ford Mustang and Ford Falcon or whatever. I mean you can’t expect something like this.

Not with this group of devs and the way the game is set up. These are the same guys that designated Acura and Infiniti as “American” brands.

This Challenge Hub task requires that the game categorizes the selected car under an Australian manufacturer.
The game categorizes the #17 Falcon under Ford, and the game categorizes Ford as an American manufacturer.

Sorry dude, but a quick (any) search shows that the Ford Falcon was initially an American car that was adopted by Ford Australia. A unique version of it was manufactured in Australia more predominantly after the 1970s when the US line discontinued, but it was started as an American car by an American (who coincidentally became the US Secretary of Defense under JFK haha).

Hence, Ford decided to commence local production of a Holden challenger. Initially, they intended to produce the Zephyr, Consul, and Zodiac, using expensive dies they would need to purchase from Ford of Britain. However, during a visit to Ford headquarters in Detroit in 1958, they were shown the new Falcon, which was being prepared for its United States launch.

The Falcon name may have its origins in America. The Falcon in the game however, and the one the OP is talking about, is clearly the Falcon that was - as you rightly pointed out - designed, developed, and built in Australia.

I understand why it’s classified the way it is in the game, I just disagree with the reasoning behind it.

This is not unique to the Falcon, and not unique to FM23 - it’s been an issue in multiple Forza games for years, whereby any Ford is classified as being American even if it was a Aus- or Euro-market only car (such as the Sierra, Escort, Cortina etc). Turn10/PG really need to either transfer the country of origin tag to the individual car rather than the brand, or split out region-unique models in to separate brands, for instance Ford (Australia) and Ford (Europe), basically the same as what is done with Infiniti/Acura/Lexus being badged as American (the first two are reasonable but arguably Lexus should be moved back to Japan as it is truly global and not primarily NA-market)

There are a couple of cars where the reverse is true, ie an American-market only car being listed as coming from another country (the main ones that comes to mind are the Nissan 240SX and NISMO Sentra) but not as many.

Here is a Suggestion Hub thread related to this issue: