So what is it with Turn 10 and not listing Aussie cars, other than Holden’s, as Aussie owned and made? For example, the 1971 Ford XY Falcon GTHO Phase III. It’s an Aussie car. It was made by Ford Australia, not Ford America. Another example could also be the Chrysler Charger R/T, which was made by Chrysler Australia. Yet, it’s listed as American.
I understand that they’ve listed it as such because of the general principle of Ford being American, but I find this to be a little bit offensive. You wouldn’t want a Chevrolet listed as being European made even though it wasn’t. It seriously wouldn’t take much to make a subdivision that listed which cars, regardless of make, were made by different branches of that company from around the world. I’m not asking for much. Oh, actually, what about some more Shelby’s and Saleen’s? Is that too much to ask? Bring back the original Shelby GT500’s and GT350’s. Also, bring back the Saleen S5S Raptor and some of the earlier Saleen models. Come on, Turn 10.
Yeah, it does suck. When I first heard of the Ford factory getting shut down my heart broke in half. They didn’t even hold out until Bathurst 2016. I was also disappointed that the other drivers didn’t even let Ford go out with a bang that year.
Because Forza works off the global brand platform, only doing regional brands for particularly unique products (like Holden/Opel/Vauxhall as part of GM but still Aus/Ger/UK respectively). Ford doesn’t have sub-brands in different regions, so the Focus/Escort/RS200 etc are Ford Europe products in real life but still get classified as American in-game because Ford globally is American.
Country is obviously tied to the manufacturer, but as to why they don’t separate Ford Australia in the same way that HSV and HDT are separate, that may be a requirement of the licensing agreement. Or maybe it’s a concern that separating companies would mean that for events where the restriction is Make Must be Ford, then the Falcons wouldn’t be able to participate.
It turns out that infographic was incorrect when it listed some 28 Australian cars in the game, maybe because of interpretation rather than game data, because the game only lists HDT, HSV, and Holden cars using the Free Play filter.
That probably wasn’t the best comparison, but I guess you get the gist of it.
Yeah, FH3 is a good example of that. Try and do the achievement to do a race with all Aussie cars and it only comes up with the Holden’s, HSV’s and the HDT. Quite annoying.
If I recall correctly, in a past Forzathon event in Horizon 3 one of the challenges required an Australian car and one of the Aussie Fords that I tried worked.
Hmm, I can’t say I remember that one. Though, I do know of an achievement that requires you to make and complete a race with all Aussie cars, however, it only comes up with Holden’s, HSV’s and the HDT, which is disappointing.
They could say it was manufactured in the Sea of Tranquility by Santa’s lunar elves and replace all the SS badges with “Spaghetti Sauce” and I’d hardly bat an eye. As long as I like the way it looks and drives…
This has been bugging me since the Falcon’s first appeared in Forza. Would be nice to see T10/PG list cars country by their main market not home of the brand.
I agree. This has been bugging me since they added Aussie Falcon’s in Forza 4, I think, or maybe it was Forza 6. I can’t really remember. But yeah, it is annoying that they don’t acknowledge it. They sort of did with some of the barn finds in FH3, but that’s about it. I’d be happy with a simple disclaimer saying that a certain car was made and designed in another country, or even just changed the country of origin but kept it listed in the make of the car. IE: 1971 Ford XY Falcon GTHO Phase III - Country of Origin - Australia, but still kept it labelled under Ford.
A similar case could be made for Acura/Infiniti/Lexus/Scion being American. Technically, they are American since they were originally introduced there, but they were created by their parent companies, which are Japanese. I at least know Lexus now has its HQ in Japan, so it could be classified as Japanese (if it returns).
At least it’s not like the old FM games where MINI was German.
Now that I think of it, Caparo was originally introduced as Dutch in FM6.
Dodge and Chrysler are still American, they just Italian owned now, it goes on where it was founded.
Its just easier from a menu and gameplay mechanic standpoint to have the manufactures under one country. How complicated would it be to most of Forza’s casual audience if there was US Ford, UK Ford, Aus Ford, Deu Ford and UK/DEU Ford, it would be messy, I cant even begin to think what GM’s list would look like. They have cars from Korea (the good one, I can say that can’t I?), Germany, Australia and US, them times that by the 50,000 brands they own, so I can see why they keep it simple.
I understand that they want to keep it simple and easy to manage. It would just be nice if they had a disclaimer saying that the car was make and designed elsewhere, or even just change the Country of Origin for that specific car and just kept it labelled as the original make. IE: 1973 Ford XB Falcon GT351 - Country of Origin - Australia. Just a slight change to the country of origin, a disclaimer or even a change to the flag for a specific model would be absolutely fantastic in my book. That being said, I don’t know how easy or difficult it would be.