That font size though…
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Hope my gamertag on that list of losing teams. I’d hate to have caused you to lose.
Hi BadRiver, long time since we raced, maybe 3 years or more.
The Trial series event occasionally includes an impossible race. I keep trying until I have the right team.
(What’s unrealistic about an AI car winning easily at night, on wet pavement, with no spins or sliding. lol)
Oh yeah, the font size. Well, at least it’s easy to read. lol
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My team won first time. What I don’t get about these posts is that over 4 years my team mostly wins first time, but it doesn’t have a lot to do with me. So how could I be that lucky?
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I don’t know how you get so lucky. I did three attempts this evening. Two of them teammates kept hitting me unnecessarily and we lost. The third was even worse ramming in the first race but when I tried to help the team lose by finishing dead last the AI was horrible and the 4 worst teammates did really well and won.
I mostly get the Trial finished on the first try as well. Imho the average player is experienced enough to perform sufficiently if(!) he gets the support by the faster ones.
If I would run off into the distance pulling AI with me my win rate would drop immensly - surely below 50%.
By blocking the AI giving the other decent drivers the time and space to catch up/overtake my win rate is way over 90%. It’s a win-win for everyone in the team.
Sure, there are Trials where the player pace is too low and even blocking doesn’t help or players that miss CP before the line but that’s very rare.
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I do the trial repeatedly each week and, most of the time, certainly over the last few weeks, its fairly easy wins for the human team. Id say it’s been 75%-80% wins and I generally don’t adopt the blocking approach.
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Are you flooring it or driving in a controlled leading pace?
I basically never do former because the field spreads strongly which often results in “nailbiting” 50-150 pts leads throughout the race and I mostly slow down providing the chance to react if the small lead will be lost.
The last Trials were a lot more relaxed though.
Varies. I tend to find that the human team is often well ahead fairly early on in the race. If so, I usually just drive normally and open up a gap. If it’s close, I’ll stay nearer the front cars and control them.
I’m by no means good but Sometimes even win races. If I find myself in the wrong car (often) I’ll just try to block the AI to let the others through. What bugs me most though is when I’m in a good car and constantly get rammed by “teammates” who just want to win - it’s a team event. Just race and don’t ram / block your teammates just because you want to prove something. If there’s better players then I’ll let them through even if it means losing a place or two to the AI - can usually catch up. By the way - Sorry if I accidentally hit a teammate - doesn’t mean you need to keep ramming out of spite though.
edit - that wasn’t aimed at anybody Jezza - except those rammers.
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You need to rethink your tactics. I have never let an Ai pass me in 4 years.
If you’re in a lobby of two, and your partner placed 5th, you only have to place third to win. In fact the fewer players in a Trial, the easier: There’s less Player Cars for AI to score against. All each player has to do is place high enough to offset the points deficit of a commensurate number of AI cars in front of you.
The fact that you claim to need a full lobby to drag you through to a win, and your comments on cars/tunes indicates that you’re not even placing high enough to hold your own (let alone help others by blocking AI etc.), to me makes it highly inappropriate to be naming the Gamer Tags of those who “lost” your Trial.
Go ahead and thank those for the help that you clearly need. But most of your post isn’t about owning up to needing that help. It’s about the shortcomings of others and your sense of entitlement to their help.
I think you misinterpreted what aaorta said. He didn’t say that he 'let’s AI pass him". He said that he lets teammates pass him instead of racing for himself and trying (possibly unsuccessfully) to catch and pass the AI. I myself have shown restraint knowing that the best way for a given team to win was if I stay in 2nd or 3rd and slow down the AI behind me so enough of the team can pass and score the needed points.
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It really depends on the people who are on your team and if the lead AI are programmed to just run way out in front from the start that race. A team of two good or even great human racers will still lose if the AI drives on rails at unbelievable speeds. But a team of six people with some above average and some below can win if the AI performs at a reasonable or bad level.
I’ve learned to never make assumptions about our chances based on the number of people on the team. Early indicators are liveries and tuning. If the paint and tune are both stock, chances are that the teammate(s) will score less points but looks can be deceiving and the luck of the draw with regard to AI abilities isn’t known until after the race has started.
No he said he let people pass him even if two Ai pass him as well. That is losing points, the opposite to what you said.
That’s all true but not my point: My point is that on average you only have to score slightly more than you’re giving away.
My objection to OP is that his post reads like he can’t even do that, lists myriad failed attempts then names the GTs of a losing team.
Even so, I remember one race where I was in 1st and had one AI on my tail. The team was back some with other AI in front of them. I intentionally let the AI directly behind me pass and I slowed down and blocked other AI allowing the team to pass those AI. We ended up getting enough points to win by 150. Would not have happened if I hadn’t been willing to lose to an AI. You do what you need to do to help the team win (unless the team is full of aggressive drivers and then you might do what you can to score nothing so the team loses).
I agree that the tone of the OP reads like he is at minimum unsure of his ability to compete, but he does mention getting 5th so he at least has some skills. I’ve seen too many Trials (harder and easier) where teammates cannot score at all in any of the three races. I agree that naming those on the losing team was in bad taste. I might single someone out on a losing team if that player performed well and deserved to win despite my and the other teammates’ performance but to just say that these people were a team of losers isn’t a good look.
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I was initially going to agree with Aqua (boosting your team by 100 but giving away 200), but your elaboration is a legit tactic. Sometimes P1 is just too aggressive to wind in and block with enough time left to let your team catch up. Better to give away the 650 but stall the second AI to give your team a bunch of 500s.
It all involves having so ability to read the AI and your team and then adjust your race accordingly aiming you have the time and ability to actually execute that plan.