It was brilliant. Just bring it back. It engaged the community hugely and the thrill of bidding on cars against other people was brilliant. The worst part of getting rid of the auction house is that you can no longer trade cars with friends, that really really annoyed me when I found this out in Forza 5. Also, pink slips would be so fun to play with friends, similar to how people do wagers on FIFA. Pls Turn 10 bring the auction house.
It’s a well requested feature, however there are 2 strongly opposing camps on it.
I used it rarely, but the times I did, I recall being pretty happy and excited during the process. I enjoyed the search for cars, watching bids, getting into bidding wars, it was pretty fun.
Whilst not a priority feature for me, I do think things like this enrichen the game. But you know… can’t have nice things and all that haha
Oh. Surely, I thought, by camps, it meant that, like everything, people have their own opinions and perspectives. In this case, those who want the auction house to return, those who do not want the auction house to return, and those who are indifferent. I wasn’t aware there was such an organized movement. Seriously.
Aye, a hive of villainy and misbegotten Cr, it was.
However, by its very design the XB1 would preempt much of the bad behaviour. Perhaps a newer, stricter, more secure AH could be reintroduced.
Either way, I never used it, and thus care little. I wouldn’t mind seeing the return of “gifting”, though. Not just cars, but replays, photos, paints, etc.
I disagree, I wouldn’t call the current state of the forza community healthy. Nobody is hacking paints im sure but it seems as though nobody is painting either. We can say its because its a new console, but I disagree. I think there are plenty of people like me out there; I am not wealthy but I do have the income to go purchase an xbox one whenever I see fit and I haven’t seen fit yet. Forza was why I bought a 360 really, and all I really did on forza was paint. When I heard about all the things missing from FM5 I decided to hold off until some friends got it and saw how it was, and nothing I heard compelled me to buy it. I will be honest, the windows 10 functions have me considering buying an xbox one but a true successor to FM4 would have had me off the fence long ago. There were bad elements to the AH, but losing it kills one of the things that made this game stand out from the others - the community.
In FM4 I avoided the auction house like the plague as I’d heard too many stories to chance it. And then after building up a nice substantial amount of cash and wanting to fill my garage a bit I suddenly realised I was missing out on a great opportunity to pick up bargain cars, so in the end I quite enjoyed it.
However… I sold one car that got bought with some not quite legit Fredits (the purchaser messaged me and told me he’d thought he’d bought his friends car but got mine by accident, then said he’d not got the credits legitimately and couldn’t do it again) at a few mill, and stopped altogether, I didn’t want a ban. I enjoyed the game way too much!
It causes as many issues as it does enjoyment, maybe a bit of refinement would be in order so it was used for the right purposes.
As someone who sold many thousands of turnkey cars on the auction house in FM4 i would love to see it return. My only concern is that i picked up two temporary bans, neither of which i have ever been able to find out what for. Being as how i did all my own painting, none of which contravened any offence laws, i could be banned again with no right of reply or means to identify any possible rule breaking.
What infuriated me most was my friend being banned, i assume, for selling whatever it was got me banned. He had just returned from a year plus military service in the gulf. So i gave him some designs to sell. He did nothing wrong.
Anyway generally i think the AH should return, under the proviso that its possible to get a proper response as to why a ban occurs. Othewise stick to the return of clubs and club garages.
Annnyways … I suppose, if I must choose, I am in the “camp” that would like to see the auction house return, so long as Turn 10 has had a chance to identify and prevent the issues surrounding stolen liveries and credit exploits.
Claiming unicorn vehicles in the Forza Motorsport 2 days, when phREDESIGN would put them up at a 1,000 CR buyout was good fun and seeing all of the standard and limited edition work the designers and tuners were putting out was simply fantastic. In turn, the forum paint and tune catalogs were overflowing the brim with information about project unveilings, sales, and contests. Just the amount of activity surrounding the auction house was, in itself, enough to keep you on Forza for hours on end.
Understandably there are those who rarely used the auction house or were turned off by it because of some of the exploits; however, I believe it is what drove some of the most amazing pieces of work to ever come out of community created content … in all the world of videogames.
If Turn 10 can make it happen and make it happen right, please let it be so!
Heh. I was going to employ the exact same quote to those reminiscing with comments expressed in this thread. However, the proof is in the pudding with regards to ForzaMotorsport.net activity and that associated with the Forza Motorsport community features. Obviously, the franchise has turned toward a new direction; but, forgetting the past or suggesting it wasn’t exceptional, in any way, isn’t knocking nostalgia … it’s knocking all of the efforts tuners, painters, racers, Forzatographers and general fans have put into the series’ 10 year history.
But … it is true. “The times, they are a changin’.”
We have many sub-communities with Forza, they come, they go, they change over time. So long as people keep playing the game and keep coming together to discuss it we will have a community of sub-communities. Painters, tuners, photographers, drifters, drag racers, hot lappers, competitive racers, freeway blasters, stars in reasonably priced cars, kings, infected, cats, mice and last men standing. Old people leave and new people arrive and a community adjusts to make room for new ideas and new ways of doing things.
Communities are always in flux and are never killed off so long as there are people willing to participate and seek out likeminded others with whom to share.
This bit being the key. “Nostalgia just isn’t what it used to be” is an argument that we all remember the past differently and in a way to suggest things were always better “back then.” Fair enough.
However, what it doesn’t debate is the current status of things. Participation in official community contests is way down … so much so that the team has gone away from a weekly format, despite having more personnel to manage said events. Even then, from what I can tell, entries haven’t exceeded page one in ages. Similarly, weekly news articles receive far less discussion and were only recently at a peak when freebie unicorns were being offered. Moving on, page one of the Forza Horizon 2 media section features threads with activity aged as much as five days, despite the game having released only six months ago. The status of the livery, drift, tuner, and club sections are even worse for wear.
Therefore, “so long as there are people …” couldn’t be any more significant than it is now and, truth be told, where are they? Now, can we directly link all of this to the loss of community-based gameplay features, the likes of the auction house? Without any habits and uses survey data (that, I assume, hasn’t been conducted), no. But, for those of us who have been here long enough to know, it should be evident that the community has taken a hit and hasn’t quickly recovered. This isn’t to say that it won’t ever, but the trend seems to be heading toward a substantial lull - a great visual representation of growth and recession for a high school economics course, but a disappointing indication for business and, in turn, bad news for fans of the franchise who are heavily involved in the community.
Now sure, this, the ForzaMotorsport.net fan base, is but a minute proportion of the general Forza population. However, I argue that the success - or lack thereof - of this small crowd has broader implications on all Forza gamers, whether they know it or not. When deteriorated, less community created content is made available; fewer opportunities to find those likeminded gamers exist; and the overall word of mouth surrounding the Forza brand declines.
In summary, I too have suggested that time changes all and that people go while others take their place. The only problem with this antidote: when they don’t come, who is going to be here for nostalgia to even mean a damn thing, much less exist?
And in another thread it was confirmed they were coming back. But neither of us have links to back up our statements, which kinda suggests that we’re lying. Wouldn’t you agree?
One issue: Dragnet is a Moderator, not a developer. Him saying “no, they won’t come back” is official as me saying “yes, they will come back.”