A Sad Day

As a huge Forza supporter since its inception, purchaser of most of the premium versions, I have to say that this is the biggest disappointment I have ever encountered in the franchise. When this terrible version was released in 2023, I thought to myself “It’s buggy, but wow is it pretty, and there are stupid rules all over the place, but I have faith in these Turn10 guys and it’ll be a good game for years to come”. I have been sadly mistaken. I get ready to play a couple of career mode races only to be disappointed by how the nicest stock cars are total pieces of crap to drive and you cannot do anything without maxing the customizations out (basically more and more HPs). I max a car, run through career mode fine, then try out multiplayer with undermatched competition. They can ram me at max speed and I get a penalty for it? Spin out of the race into last place. Cool, that makes a lot of sense… I’ll take a break from the game for a little bit and see what they update next time.

I come back to the game to give it another whirl, read the 2-3 update notes filled with useless features that no one in the community cares about, and load up another car/track/race. Same crap, different day. Ok, let’s see multiplayer at the lowest possible option. I get BLASTED by a A-class car that I have maxed out by a horde of freaking F1 cars that are ineligible? Smart guys there at Turn10 seem to just let whatever they want to happen. It’s like the wild west. Ok, maybe they’ll get something right in the next update or two.

I wait 2 updates this time, and come into the current iteration. I read through another verbose jumble of updates and patches, claim my neat cars to add the bloated garage I already have, and sure enough, it’s worse than it was at launch. Pressing through the crappiness of the car, I gain places, get upgrades, then tap a car for a 2.25 second penalty. Ok, maybe that’s a fluke - let’s rewind and try that corner again… 2.25 sec pen. Baby love-taps are doing crit damage now. Cool. What a joke…

If the Forza franchise plans to continue, you have to part ways with this studio. They are idiots and try to make a “racing simulation” but take actual simulations out of the game because “it’s not pretty”. Hire a company who takes gameplay into consideration over pretty looks. Graphically, this game is impressive, but it’s beyond terrible to consider playing. It’s the first time I have ever removed Forza data from my console or PC, and I must say, the time and effort put into this game makes me laugh hysterically at the content developers and project managers who thought that this was “IT”, the end-all-be-all game for the future. Forza Motorsport may very well die after this game runs its course, and I would be thankful that it happens while mildly sad that it died this way. Invest in your community and not the 50 twelve-year olds that you cater to, because many of us want to play a game that has some resemblance of a replay value, not some pretty game with neat graphics that otherwise is a dog underneath. Thanks for putting lipstick on this pig, Turn10, and may you and your staff find other things to do when your studio shuts down. Spend years trying new things and going away from what made the franchise remarkable while laughing to the bank after ripping off your previously-faithful customer base.

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It’s a game of balancing your love for the franchise and your expectations. Maybe next time you play, you’ll really enjoy it, but fun and frustration are close friends on this one. That’s just part of the deal as of now. My advice is be patient and try to find a “pocket” of fun within the game.

I found it funny that this guy finds the game to be graphically acceptable, even ‘pretty’ . I am waiting for the pitchforks to come out, that kind of talk certainly isn’t allowed.

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It’s a game of balancing love of controller-friendly racing & authentic-leaning physics/handling at popular paved real-world racing circuits in a wide variety of real-world cars that can be custom-built & tuned with unmet expectations of basic functional quality, common-sense design, & a level of polish reflecting the many lessons that should have been learned over the 18+ years that this studio has worked on this series.

Can’t bite into this apple without also chewing on gooey pieces of the worms inside it.

appleworm

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The community notices in the game are the worm inside, today I noticed another blue dot and thought what important message will it be this time

Matra-Simca MS650

Have you driven the 1970 Matra-Simca” blah blah blah

No I have not because it’s behind a paywall and I wouldn’t be silly enough to spend anymore money, was dumb enough the first time round paying full price in between the few week window of discounts, who would have thought that a game on sale would go back on sale at 50 percent off just weeks after it was 30 off.

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Yeah, I dislike all the spam messages in the game’s inbox.
I wish they’d at least use more descriptive & unique headers/subjects/titles for those messages.
An ever-growing stack of identical “community notice” messages looks extra spammy and (even further) reduces the perceived relevance of each message.
Yet another sign of a complete lack of care & common-sense.

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I would say Turn10 set pretty lofty expectations showing off the game how they did and lauding their new built from the ground up game and physics engine, I would have had more tempered expectations if they hadn’t alluded to this game being 4k 60fps ray tracing on Xbox only after the fact to say *jk it wasn’t all shown on Xbox. But then it was too late they had set the bar, and continue to use promo shots and trailers that don’t seem to represent my gaming experience. Discovering missing features and tracks from FM7, time gated cars, real icing on the cake for this.

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Next Update will probably break something else but all is good, there will be 3 new racing suits added!

Maybe I should start a thread in the SHUB for a option to be added so you can delete messages or mark them as spam or just turn them off altogether and one for deleting the horrid free liveries as using liveries tanks the game.

Thanks for the free double up of that car the other day, had been sitting there for months, grabbed it and sold it

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The game looks “fine” visually, but NOT up to the standard set by their own trailers and promotional material.

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How do you know that? :thinking:

I was being sarcastic, like there needs to be any more

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You summed it up perfectly. The whole game is “fine”.

I’m playing New Star GP now and having a wonderful time :smile:

it’s Xbox Game Studio’s fault for having an 18 month contract for their developers. No wonder nothing feels complete and I’m disappointed in T10 selling out.

The game is still just bland and will fall away, for other developing studios to take the lead.

If not, then it’d be a miracle of a recovery process and I just don’t see that happening. I don’t see a reset for the studio for another 5 years and - ain’t nobody got time fo’ that.

case closed

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This is the truth, by other racing game standards, the game looks fine. I think it’s in the top 3 graphically for sure. With some .xml tweaking it can be downright stunning as well. BUT, it’s nowhere near what they showed us in their highly edited trailers and stills and I 100% believe we were all victims of bait and switch. Not to mention all the removed and straight up missing content.

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Graphics haven’t been touched since update 1 ! So it’s a disappointment. It takes way to long for them to fix something and after an update there is always an hotfix a few days later…

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Yeah I don’t see how they can get away with these “Hotfixes” if Mircosoft have a two week testing policy.

We have now had 2 hotfixs in a row after updates and this current one broke the game for me and many others (see crashing after events in the TSHUB)

This hotfix 8.1 only mentioned it covered 1 issue yet it was over a gigabyte and the issue it did mention hardly sounded like a performance affecting one that needs immediate attention.

Fixed an issue that resulted in some OEM manufacturer paints appearing overly metallic.
And broke the Prismacolor in the process

That couldn’t wait till Update 9?
Turn10 didn’t test this hotfix and won’t acknowledge that it broke the game for some, probably alot more but they don’t know about the forum

That’s always been a big misunderstanding, Microsoft doesn’t have a “two week” testing policy. Microsoft has a “too weak” testing policy.

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I wouldn’t mind if they had a better metallic color finish. Forza has never had a decent metal flake finish in any game. Even the “Hot Wheels” metal flake finish isn’t good. It’s over done but that’s the hot wheels side. And the metal flake in the special colors doesn’t even pretend to look metal flake. Somewhere about halfway between the two would be a nice metal flake finish.

I wouldn’t mind what the color is if the game would just stop crashing!

If this isn’t fixed in the next update I’m going to lose my >redacted<

All of this for some OEM Manufacturer paint smh

They don’t have this policy for Hotfixes. But after a Hotfix that 2 week testing has to be done from the beginning again for the next real Update. That is why we got Update 8.0 one week later.