how?
I have been doing this in most of online games - let everyone go out in front and then play catch up. It worked well in November and December, however, in the past two weeks somehow there were always like 2 or 3 intentional rammers in every lobby… I only know one player is a rammer after getting rammed, which cost me 5 to 10 seconds… Then it takes me another half lap to get close to the player again, and another full lap to figure out a way to pass guys… Then another rammer is somewhere in front… So based on my experience, starting from the last and playing catch up no longer work for average level players like me…
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For the general issue a robust collision detection system (ghosting high speed difference impacts) in combination with harsh penalties.
On a personal note I avoid them by 1) qualifying high on the grid and 2) racecraft knowing the turns and where to position myself to avoid the obligatory carnage.
Nürburgring GP first turn for example I instantly hug the inner track limits going ultra tight into the turn. Costs time but the carnage does not happen right at the apex.
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What do you mean how? How is asking people to stop voicing their concerns silencing them? How is that not self explanatory?
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“qualifying high on the grid” maybe worked previously but likely not now, as some highly skilled players start to exploit the poor penalty system or maybe just rammers are getting better at lap time… Yesterday, I played my 1st qualifying in Forza GT lobby this week and got 3rd start (usually I start from the last so I can watch the turn 1 and turn 2 thing without being impacted…), however at T1, I, together with the poor 1st place guy, got destroyed by the 5th place guy who was driving the brand new Lambo car… Then after T1, the 5th guy became 1st with 4.00 seconds penalty, which I do not think he cares… Forza GT division used to be clean in November… but now, always several bad rammers in every lobby I played in…
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This and the comment you replied would make sense if at least the developers or ppl in charge weren’t so silenced about what they’re doing for fixing the game. There are many things that need attention and they made a vague press release pointing to only some of the few problems.
I play the game knowing there are many things that I consider broken (penalty system, absence of auction house and private lobbies, matchmaking, etc), and although I don’t complain, I think posts like this one (which is written with respect) are useful to push the developers to fix problems.
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I wonder if you could argue this under 'right to repair law". You have the right to repair anything that you own. Therefore if you are repairing their sloppy code can they really demerit someone for doing so?
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ROFLMAO!!!
You know it’s bad when they can’t even get some family members to play too, to pad the numbers.
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So now after reading this topic you stop?
Or Is the part that ask you to be constructive that stop you voicing your concerns?
What part of the main post will cut hands of people?
Isn’t he just voicing his concerns?
I think there’s some part of EULA that prevents us from doing that
Yes, unfortunately groups like Nintendo ensured that even if you buy electronics you dont actually have the right to make copies or alter any software or modify any hardware. Theres been a constant battle of right to repair and the right to make copies of data that you have in fact paid for versus game companies lobbying against it.
Theres actually an extremely good episode of the darknet diaries podcast about it. Episode 136: team xecuter.
Seems like Turn 10 are deleting posts and threads where negativity is shown. Turn 10 can close down the WHOLE FORUM for all I care but it won’t change the fact that Turn 10 has delivered a borderline illegal product advertised under false pretenses and was shoved out of the studio in such a state, that the now have changed a word in the dictionary to describe the atrocious attempt at said game… SHEMOZZLE.
Absolute SHEMOZZLE.
Instead of preying on people’s posts and opinions especially where negativity is displayed, how about you get back to work and deliver a game worthy of the title because THATS the main issue here, not us…
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Yes, a blunder of the highest order. An intentional one at that. They intentionally released a game that would probably end up in lawsuit if someone was driven enough. Because of the need to recoup some money(not sure from where) they released it in such a state that it beggars belief hey they thought they would get away with it.
On top of ALL the bugs, issues, broken gameplay mechanics and lack of features and content, they had the audacity to give the community the cold shoulder for around 3 months. 3 months before they addressed anything. And the delivery of said communication was such a let down. You really have the nerve to say that your Car upgrades system is loved by most players with only some not liking it…?
Pure and intentional deceit. It is GLOBALLY panned.
Again, no great effort an apology, no effort and calming people’s emotions down and no effort in securing some kind of hope for the future,…there isnt any im afraid, and it seems like Turn 10 knows this as well.
Turn 10 of 2024 is nowhere near the same level of competence, commitment and passion of Turn 10 from a decade ago.
I dont know who is to blame for this fiasco. Directors, producers, Microsoft suits?
Perhaps a hodge podge of everything…I dont know. But whats clear here is that mismanagement is most certainly the main reason for this iteration and it most certainly shows…
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Not really. When approaching corner you’re only allowed to make one defending move out of the racing line if the car in front defends outside, opens door on the inside, trailing car switches to inside and then suddenly defending car cuts back to the inside making 2nd defending move and collision happens it is his fault. It is in FIAs rules.
Sure in single defending move you can block the lane right in the front of the car because as long as he is not overlapping he is not entitled to that space.
With the kids like playerbase of gamepass we are to safty even in 1st place after qualify: I’ve saw many players with a full speed full acceleration build used to just ram anyone they can and than quit. We have to deal with the fact that some user are just toxic auti*tic who have fun ruining anyone gaming and that kind of toxicity must be countered. Since I got the feeling that even with a working save replay T10 will never ban anyone, ghosting will help a lot, beside 45 sec on a 10-15 mins race will not ruin anykind of sense of reality.
It was to the original poster.
They are also part of the target audience. If ramming wasn’t a central feature, then you wouldn’t have had to invest so much development time on great visualizations of damage.
FM23 suffers from the same weaknesses as Windows/Office. MS tries to use one product to serve everyone, from a 3-year-old schoolboy to a secretary, with the same product. Gamepass invites all boys to try out the biggest, heaviest and fastest cars. You can’t blame them for using the associated online mode.
I don’t blame them, but I blame T10 for not giving ghosting like Forza Horizon 5: that kind of player who just try to see the havock they cause become harmless after a couple of turn because they have no idea how to run in the track and control the car. We still need to counter good player who exploit the penalty system and try to ram for getting a position, but those are a minority: main problem as for now is the start of the race.
They could make all cars ghosts in the first lap. All the rammers that can’t drive at all, will fall behind so far that it doesn’t matter anymore. Also cars that are one lap behind should be permanently ghosted to those who are in the current lap with the rest of the field. Sure that would make it a bit boring, but everything is better than destruction derby in a simcade game.
I haven’t played the game online yet, only in single player. I just can’t be arsed to play it online in it’s current state.
Anybody remembers this game?
It was so fun back then. If the ramming is the core of the gameplay it’s cool if everybody is ramming. 
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