Xmas special from acs for newbies

We rarely release tunes but I thought I would put out one for any newbies who might get forza 6 for xmas. It’s the ford 1993 cobra svt , complete with paint job. it’s tuned specifically for those newer to forza. it’s made for those who drive automatic or manual without clutch. no assits are needed if you choose, but take off abs braking if you adjust assists. it’s not intended as a lobby racer , just a perfect starter car. If you don’t know how to download tunes feel free to give me a shout. If your finishing DNF every race in lobbys , well this might be better than what you got. ENJOY , HAPPY HOLIDAYS, MERLIN.

( Side note; if you turn off assists, including abs braking, you can trash the computer drivers on most tracks at any level , this car is EASY to drive, your child could drive lol , but please keep him or her outta public lobbys. ) Swore it was up, it wasnt, but is now, sorry. good to go now. Also posted a video of it running at laguna seca , video named ACS

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Why isn’t it suitable for public lobbies?

A lot of beginners are going to want to play online right away…

its not a very competitive setup compared to what’s out there, however on tighter shorter tracks its not bad. This car is better than half the junk I see many driving, but its not going to get you to the front in a experienced lobby. Newbies are NOT ready for public lobbies right outta the box anyway. Sorry that’s reality. Try the car before you judge, might be better than what you have now , or a LOT better than what you expected. I can tell you I just raced several computer cars on the unbeatable level at sebring full and beat them. with default settings, after you get the hang of things, on longer lap races you probably will be lapping them.

Wasn’t judging was just honestly wondering

:+1:t4:

np, just saying try the car and see how it compares to what your driving now. In a slower lobby it will compete and win , but bring in 5 veterans and. your 6th at best.

Tried out your tune just for the heck of it. It’s easy to drive that’s for sure, but the four wheel drive swap and race transmission seem to completely rob it of the power it needs. Took it around Lime Rock and managed a 59.3. For comparison, a 475 PI Nissan Fairlady Z I made a long time ago got a 58.8.

Now this isn’t to insult your tuning ability or anything like that; I understand what you were making here and the intended demographic for this tune, but a car that’s competitive and a car that’s easy to drive aren’t always two different things. Heck, the whole reason why BAC Monos and 33 Stradales get so much hate in A class is because not only are they the fastest cars in the class, but they’re also the easiest to drive; especially the Mono.

I think if you got rid of the awd swap and then gain the PI deficit back with some engine upgrades it would still be a pretty stable car for the newbies.

Just a bit of constructive feedback. :slight_smile:

After building and tuning for about 8 years , I think I got a handle on it and know exactly what I put out and why. I considered all factors. I clearly stated that I was not putting out a lobby car , just a really good driver , and it is . Times were irrelevant, handling was the focus with enough umph to beat the AI cars easily. As for the swap , how do you beat the AI cars ( who like cutting in front of you and beating the crap out of you ) to the 1st corner . Its called launch. This gets them out quicker and up to the front faster to get by the AI beating . again I considered all factors for a newbie . but thanks for the feedback.

I think you can make cars that are (at least) decently fast in lobbies that are easy enough to drive for newbies.

Getting killed in online racing will discourage new users from playing the game real quick. With a car as slow as the one you provided this is sure to happen. I understand you’ve simply aimed to make an “easy driver” but I think you could make it quite faster and still maintain that driveability. No offense m8 just my opinion.

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I have to agree with you.
As builder, I always try to get the most out of a car/build/tune.
The end results should alway be have the fastest/ best average laps time for your target audience.

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I honestly don’t know how to find an unlocked tune on Forza. Merlin, can you direct me how to download this tune? I think alot of new people will havethe same problem like me.
Do I search by keyword or something?

Get in the car you want a tune for
Go into tuning from the main menus
Now, click the back button and you should get a menu with options such as "load setup, save setup, etc…)
Select “load setup”
Now, I think you hit back again to search
And then just type whoever’s tune you want in the “Creator” field
… and boom all the public tunes by that tuner will show up for the car you are in.

You can also do a similar thing if youre in an online lobby and select “Load tune”

:+1:t4:

Cheers m8!

Oh , my bad, beating computer cars at the uneatable level was just not good enough for a car I clearly stated was not a lobby car, Thanx for the genius feedback. Next time I will spell it out in crayon. This car is PERFECT for a newbie period. Not for a veteran player, looking to race in public lobbies. A person who just freshly downloaded the game, do you people actually read before you post your criticism? The target audience is on or barely off a few default settings. So I offer A car thats cheap and quick off the line, that can beat the AI cars at any level with EXTREMELY good handling , but its just not good enough. WOW , why did I even respond to this idiocy. Could I have made it more competitive, sure at the cost of handling, nearly as good is NOT as good, max handling with enough performance to beat AI at any level is EXACTLY what a newbie needs. this will in fact encourage a newbie to say ’ I can do this’ , thus growing forza, not killing it by saying, oh just turn all the assists off and go grab that popular mario kart tune. About 20 minutes into that and you just lost them. For some very odd reason, t10 can’t see this . we watched them in twitter,pre launch , the dev’s were all over the place, hitting everything and each other. Somehow they didn’t realize that that’s exactly what 85% of all the newbies will do. I try to help and I get only negative feedback. What did you do to help? Sorry about my rant, but it gets old. this is not the 1st time I try to help and get nothing but negative feedback , making me think, why even bother.

Hey man, no need to get all upset.

Do you want honest feedback or for people to tell you your tune is the greatest ? When I was a newbie I wanted to race in public lobbies, and I’m sure I’m not the only one that did.

Like I said, you can make much faster cars that are just as easy to drive.

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I own well over 100, but there not for a newbie, 458 italia special R class sat # 1 in body type, prague reverse for months. No newbie is going to handle that car , running no tcs . I put out what they needed to get their feet wet. if YOU started in public lobbies , then you no doubt , caused a lot of chaos and did not belong there yet . dispute that. feedback is fine until all you get is you did it wrong and I coulda or woulda done it better when you did nothing . gets old . at least 1 guy does build and tune , I will at least respect his opinion.

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Nah I didn’t really cause much chaos, and Forza 6 is the first racing game I’ve played since FM2. Its funny that you think every newbie needs to have his/her hand held with a purposely slow car. A friend in my regular racing group just got his wife started with the game and she’s driving the same tunes as him w/o too many problems. If anything, giving a newbie a very slow car is only going to make things worse.

And who said anything about r class? lol…

I’m saying you can build a much faster Mustang that is just as easy to drive. ACR is right, you absolutely should not be putting an AWD swap in that car. It makes the car ridiculously slower and insinuating that every newbie needs AWD is asinine.

If I have time next time I’m on I will show you how to build/tune a more competitive Mustang that won’t have newbies getting lapped every race. And they will be able to drive it comfortably and run it with whatever assists they want :+1:t4:

oh im very interested in how YOU solved the braking issue between different builds and assists . so you can build a car that will brake the same or even close no matter if somones using automatic, standard without clutch , standard with clutch , abs or no abs . your a genius. And I quote ’ whatever assists they want ’ . And I never stated that all newbies need awd , where did you get that? And there it goes , attack mode and I bite showing my stupidity. Done, NEVER Again. shoulda listened to friends . this is the end result in trying to help in forza . And I respond to this guy who never even downloaded the tune but comments on it.

Mentioning that 475 PI Nissan was in no way me suggesting that I could make a better tune than you, I only used it because it was a time I set a long time ago and I thought it would be a good benchmark to compare your car to. Only stating what time a car got around a track means nothing without some sort of comparison to other cars.

The only reason why I was concerned with the lack of performance is that, when considering that a new player will probably be about 5-20 seconds a lap slower than an experienced player, if the car can’t preform no matter who’s driving it, then a new person is going to do a whole lot worse in it. I understand you were trying to make an “easy driver,” but there are plenty of ways to make a car both fast and competitive, without the need for AWD swaps.

That AWD swap ironically however actually castrates a car’s handling in this game because of how the PI system works. When you give something an AWD swap the handling goes down considerably but the PI gets a massive boost, which therefore lead to the car not having enough power. It’s the reason why even in the higher classes you rarely ever see AWD cars at the top of leaderboards (with the exception of a few acceleration builds in S class), even though they may be easier to control with the throttle.

Do I think you can make a car that’s both easy to drive and competitive? Yes I do. There are plenty of easy to drive cars that are very competitive; even easier if you assume that the average new player is going to leave TCS on:
D/C class Honda Civic 97
A class BAC Mono
A class 33 Stradale
S class 08 Viper
S class Ferrari F50
C/B class Honda S2000

^ I reckon that if you build one of those the same way you would build a car for yourself you would end up with very fast and controllable cars. These were actually the kind of cars that I have started out with, and they have definitely helped me to improve my driver skill.

Happy tuning!

. I built it as an absolute AI racer , for the individual who just started, there’s no EXPERIENCED AI racers that I’m aware of , so its not going to matter. You can slam it into a corner and mash it out of the corner with very little to no wheel spin , which is what a newbie is most likely to do. I do not build leaderboard cars , I refuse, my choice. You listed at least 4 that im sure of . The car does exactly what I wanted it to do And it drives realistically. Why people keep bringing up the issue that it’s not a great lobby as you did again when I clearly stated that was not the intent is annoying. If I wanted to release a lobby car it would have been different. I will pull it soon , happy? I’m sorry I tried to help , my bad. just thought it would be a nice gesture for Xmas. Years back I made one small comment in tuners lounge an got attacked, I didn’t know only the chosen ones dare speak . thats why I released the post in general topics instead of tuners lounge to avoid the attack. If you we’re in my shoes you would understand why I get defensive. Unless its built exactly how people think it should be its not worthy, if it’s not a top 100 car then dont dare put it out right . My focus is a realistic driving car , whatever I do to achieve this is the direction I will go. When you put all 4 tires into the sand and your car does not slow down at all, that’s not realistic . I refuse to go that route , my choice . I will not build mario kart cars , again my choice. I have won plenty of races in full lobbies which is good enough for me. I saw 1 semi positive comment hmmm wonder why i got annoyed.

I commented on the build, because you definitely don’t need to be putting in a race box and AWD swapping it. Completely unnecessary and simply wastes PI. Experienced tuners would probably unanimously agree with this even if the car is meant for newbies. Those upgrades don’t even make it more “drivable”, just slower. Putting that PI towards more grip will make the car exponentially easier to drive, ESPECIALLY for a newbie. Give a newbie a car as slow as your’s and they’ll be back playing CoD in less than a week.

And yeah, not sure why you even bothered posting this if you just planned on whining every time somebody criticized your tune.

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