Xbox one vs. Xbox 360?

I have a xbox 360, so should I still get forza horizon 2?

There’s a huge thread which highlights 360 vs xb1 differences but since we have no concrete information on the 360 version besides a couple features that it will not have, the only thing you can do is wait for release and see what the game looks like.

-k

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We don’t know, 360 users for some reason are kept in the dark. We all love to hear and see news about the 360 version, so we finaly know what we will be getting. The only official news we’ve seen so far is that there will be a Horizon 2 for the Xbox 360 and that Sumo Digital is working on it and that it will be released on the same day as the Xbox One version.

Really you only need to ask two questions;

Did you enjoy Horizon 1? If so, you’ll almost definitely enjoy Horizon 2 on 360. It would take a momumental cock-up on Sumo’s front to make Horizon 2 worse than Horizon 1, hah.

Do you see yourself buying an Xbox One anytime soon? If so, you may as well hold off until you can play it on the XO. Even with the limited info on the 360 version there’s no real question that the XO version will be vastly superior.

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You know what? I somehow do not believe that at all. If it is so fastly superior I would make use of that to pust the XO even more. I would show them even at this stage side by side. I was playing Horizon 1 this afternoon… big screen. I looked at it and then looked that what Playground has shown so far and to be honest, Horizon 2 didn’t look vastly surperior at all. Again we’re coming back the whole point that whatever they’re doing with Horizon 2 XO isn’t something that couldn’t be done with the 360 at all. We all know there are games that do it all… in one game. That they’re not doing it in Horizon 2 for the 360, doesn’t mean that the XO version is vastly superior at all, they just choose to make it look that way. Of course… they want to give us the impression that it cannot be done, so the XO version looks so much better, but compared to other games that are coming out for XO, Horizon 2 is quite underwhelming.

Even if you compare Horizon 2 for XO to some of the other games we already have for the 360, it’s still underwhelming. So, I don’t think Horizon 2 for the 360 will be much less then the XO version will be. Haven’t pre-order Horizon 2 for no reason :slight_smile:

But what I do think is that both version compared to what others do are still underwhelming. Horizon isn’t a ground breaking game at all. Sure, they want us to believe it is, but it never was. It’s a good game and a great addition to the other driving games, but it sure has it’s weaknesses. With other driving games I don’t have the feeling I’m done, I’ve seen it all, I’ve done every challenge, won every race, seen the whole world. With Horizon I do have that feeling. Done it all, seen it all, been everywhere too often. That is what always the feeling I get with Horizon, it’s so great, but so little. Horizon 2 managed to squeeze in some more, but it still isn’t overhwelming. I’m still playing TDU2 because I haven’t been everywhere and done everything after all these years of playing it… yes. I pre-ordered it, so it has been with me for a long time. A month ago I finally gave TDU1 to someone else, go figure, after all these years.

Not so with Horizon, I’m done with it, I need the next title. That is good for Turn10/Playground, they can sell me a new game. Danger is thoug that as with Forza, I will stop buying it. After a few dissappointing games I stop buying and look for alternatives. Same with Horizon, if Horizon 2 is as Horizon 1 and can be finished in a too short period leaving me wanting more, I will start looking elsewhere.

I’m very selective in the games I do buy. If they do not keep me busy for a long time, I will not continue to buy them. Even by my standards Horizon was short and I don’t play many hours each week, I go without my Xbox for 2-3 weeks at times. Horizon was finished in weekend and that is bad, really bad. If Horizon 2 is like that, sorry Playground, you will have lost a customer for good. Too many alternatives and competition. The days of a few driving/racing titles each year has long gone, a company cannot depend upon that anymore. At least 6 titles in just 2-3 months. Yes, some are platform exclusives, but most aren’t. I’m not even counting all the non-driving cool games that will be released soon. Too much to choose from these days. Some of those releases already have the potential to keep me playing for years. So, Sumo, I do hope you’ve got something great to show us, but if I go by what has been released for XO, it will be a great game, but not a long lasting one and sure not something ground breaking.

…I’m sure that if you actually DID the side-by-side comparison you talked about, you’d probably not be so… dense in that extremely unnecessary rant. It honestly sounds like you are just venting right now.

Horizon 1 was groundbreaking in the sense that it brought the features of Forza to an open world, which ultimately already put it several miles above almost every other open racer out there.

On top of that, the atmosphere of the game is by all means unrivaled. Whens the last time I felt important, immersed, adrenaline-filled and excited playing a racing game? The last time I played Forza Horizon 1. I don’t know what made them choose that DJ to handle the soundtrack but that is by far the best decision I’ve ever seen in gaming for soundtrack. Not every song was a household brand, but the majority of the names were recognizable, and EVERY SONG WAS A GOOD SONG. I listened to new artists because of the Horizon 1. It’s not just the soundtrack. The game made me feel appreciated. The game made me feel rewarded. The game made me feel better about myself. For the first time, I was actually having fun playing a racing game, compared to before where I would play them out of appreciation for automobiles.

And if you didn’t think Horizon 1 was overwhelming, then I am sorry, but you are wrong. I’m going to go over the line and say that. Yes, I’m saying your opinion is wrong. I think you are just angry at Horizon for some reason and are just venting.

You may want to refresh yourself on the fact that getting enjoyment out of a game is not a statistical value, and you also need to re-learn what the standards for ‘groundbreaking’ are.

Oh, also. I felt like I needed to point this out, but Horizon by no means was a ‘short game’ and under no means could be “beaten” (as if that is an actual thing) in under a day.

If you speed run it, do the bare minimum, buy the most expensive, overrated car you can get because you don’t know otherwise, abuse the living crap out of rewind, and skip the ‘hidden packages’, skip the showcase events, use fast travel, and buy tokens, then I can see how it is possible to clear Horizon 1 in under a week.

However for the people like me, who took the time to enjoy every detail of the open world, took photos, had fun with friends, and actually learned to have fun with what it had to offer, the game gave a bare minimum of a month before we began to grind and go our own way with our opinions.

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Then evidently you value the new things that Horizon 2 on the XO brings to the table less than I do. You don’t need to spend twenty minutes typing out a bunch of ranty paragraphs to get that message across.

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Don’t worry, it only took a few minutes :slight_smile:

Can you add a TL;DR for me?

Im getting it for the 360 since theres not much else to get lol, apart from The Crew but thats not to my taste tbh, i had loads of fun in Horizon but that got boring, multiplayer i still play, maybe ill get an XB1 when fm6 comes out, but theres still 500 events and good car list so im not too bothered

horizon did get boring aside from school i could have beat the game in a day. mutiplayer only thing me and my friends do is drag race each other.
i will be getting xb1 when ever it gets cheaper…

I’m glad there’s not much coming out for the 360… The hardware is almost 10 years old… time to move on… OT, from what I’ve read horizon 2 on 360 doesn’t have any weather and they’ve scaled back the map and also doesn’t run on the Forza 5 engine and uses the one from Forza 3-4…

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Sorry to say so, but when H1 was released a lot of people finished it completely in just a few days. It is easily possible, that’s a fact. Without skipping stuff. The world is not so large at all, you can get around quickly. I played it yesterday and did all pink slip races in two hours, without fast travel, I doný have that, I had to drive from event to event. It took me 2 hours to drive through the whole world and the bar finds didn’t take ages either. It is well known that you can finish the whole game in roughly 25 hours, even Playground admitted that. No point in arguing that. It is a short game. Why do you think Playground added the 1000 club after many complaints of the game being to short? That’s not saying that I’m not enjoying it, I love the game, it’s fun, it still is!

Back to XO being vastly superior… there are already videos on the net that are saying one thing… H2 looks like and feels like H1, one reviewer even stated he thinks the world/enviroment looks less good. At any rate compared to other next gen games, H2 didn’t look and feel like one at all. I don’t think as a 360 user I have to worry to much about the XO version being vastly superior. H2 on the XO is not a next gen game at all.

And yet none of us have actually played the game to make this assessment, all we have seen is youtube videos and we all know that games can look worse on there. People that have played the game have not played the full and finished version.

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Except they have.

Yah, I really do not believe you. 2 hours to win every street race is really pushing the envelope too much. I spend at least 5-12 minutes on every race, not including Rivals, and only 2 HOURS is really pushing the envelope on that one.

You also bring up a very little percentage of the community that say that. Everybody else is, as many have read so far, the opposite opinion. That being said, 50% of the pessimists are only saying that because they don’t have or plan on having a Xbox One. And that’s the cold truth.

And about the size of the world, yes, it is large. It may not have all of the offroad driving it could have but in terms of distance it surpasses a lot of open-world games that aren’t even racing (staring at GTA V as a direct comparison for the map size).

25 hours would probably be the bare minimum for game completion, I’d agree with that.

Then again, BARE MINIMUM. Not everybody speedruns the bloody thing, and if you did speedrun (which it sounds like you did) congratulations, you drove past what the game had to offer. 25 Hours does NOT count:

-Customizing your cars to perfection
-Drifting
-Multiplayer
-Hidden packages
-Appreciating the environment
-Enjoying the songs
-Cruising
-Exploration (which the game had a lot of)
-1000 club
(I can extend the list but that is already enough for my point, anything more is just overkill)

And the guy who said the environment was “less beautiful”… (if he exists…) I believe he is full of it. From everything we have seen so far, with the coastline, weather, and ranging environments… yah, he is definitely full of it. I don’t believe you on that one either, it kinda sounds like a “In fact, a large group of people have this opinion although that does not change who the majority actually is” statement, no offense. Horizon 1 being short was never really a select negative on much of the critic reviews, and on top of that, a lot of people have already surpassed 200 hours on the game (including me and 3 members of my car club).

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Oh, yes he does exist and here’s a link to his video, start at 2.40 and you can hear it for yourself. He’s got the full game and clearly states the world looks not next gen, not even better the H1.

That guy has been smoking something strong. How can it not be better than FH1, you only have to see gameplay videos and trailers to know that its gonna be something worth the wait, even looking at the car list and features (especially for the One version) and as the guy above me says he doesnt seem sure of most of this comments, like how can it not appeal to motorsport fans when thats why they included tuning? Cos the players wanted it from FH1; i wouldnt take notice of anything he says. Its best to try it out for yourself, most retailers will offer a 30 day warranty or something, its plenty of time to decide whether its a game for you.

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Yah, I watched that video as well.

In fact, the guys commentating sounded like morons, no offense to them, but throughout the video they stated a lot of incorrect information, especially regarding what Drivatars are.

Let’s also not forget that 1 of them almost said he had never played Horizon 1 and the other said he hadn’t spent enough time in Horizon 1 to make the official call on the better environment, and even then they didn’t even directly say one of them was better in the environments. In fact, they compared it to Driveclub in terms of foliage and detail, NOT a horizon 1 “purist” standpoint you claimed it was. Let’s also not forget when they said that Horizon 1’s map consisted of a canyon and a couple villages. That video’s commentary can easily be taken with a grain of salt.

Even then, there is still everything else I have brought up in my previous posts that is still holding up my argument.

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I’d give up now dude, Papa is always posting negative stuff. I’ve called him out on it a couple of times, it never gets anywhere. He is in a world unto himself in which only he is right and only he knows ALL THE FACTS AND TRUTH. lol
Seriously, if you see one of his rants just close the thread and move on. It’s what i do now. :slight_smile: