Xbox one vs. Xbox 360?

Really? I thought he was being rational… if it’s his opinion, it’s his opinion. I’m just calling him out for what I disagree with

Totally with you on the “Cruising” part of the game. There’s just something awesomely zen about roaming around in an open-world driving game. No races to win, no times to beat, just driving around for the sake of driving around and grooving to that simple mix of road/car/driver.

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I’m not sure why some of you down the Xbox One version so much. If I had XB1 I’d be getting that version of course. The graphics do look much better. You can argue that the presentation and the way the game plays is very similar to Horizon 1 but there are large graphical differences. For me though I bought a condo and a car this year and I have a wife as well so an XB1 doesn’t really work out this year. It’s not the end of the world though and I will still enjoy the 360 version but to say they are identical or close in graphical quality doesn’t make sense.

-k

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I managed to find some more info, that finally tells us the differences:

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TL;DR

  • 720p/30fps
  • World is only 2x the size (instead of 3x the size on the X1 version)
  • No weather/Drivatars (but still has a day night cycle)
  • XBOX 360 VERSION STILL HAS BARN FINDS (good news)
  • There will still be 200 cars on launch, but apparently there will be “less cars than the X1 version” which I can only assume means, the 360 version will not have exclusive X1 cars, will not get any DLC or AS MUCH dlc via car packs, or something like that, it’s not 100% clear

That’s all the main differnces which to be honest, is not that bad, although I’m a bit confused at the game world being a 1/3 less big…how exactly does this work? Are sections chopped off? Are areas just less expansive and more “crowed up” or “close together” so for example isntead of it taking 5 mins to get across a country bit, it takes just under 3 mins 30 seconds as the world is more “condensed”?

I guess so, overall, not too bad but i’d like some clarifcation on the “less cars” thing, does this mean DLC?

These were found out couple days ago lol its on the news page, and both versions will be getting DLC probably, also it doesnt say the 360 will have less cars than XB1; just " both the Xbox 360 and the Xbox One versions of Forza Horizon 2 will feature more than 200 cars available at launch." They bring bring different cars or leave the cut ones out we dont know yet

They also say that Forza Horizon isn’t the kind of game that Forza Motorsport fans will like and that Drivatars are just AI with your friends names over thier heads. They don’t have a clue what they’re talking about lol

I think they actually spend more time umming and erring and saying “I don’t know” than making proper points. Not a very reliable source.

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The rationalization and projection is strong with this one.

The REAL question which I haven’t seen asked yet is will Xbone and 360 games be compatible online or will we only be able to race with people having the game on the same platform? My guess is the latter due to weather an possible map differences.

hmmmmmm…

Its gonna be same platform, since theres tuning on the One version the cars there could be tuned to be faster, which would be put the 360 people at a disadvantage since we’ll have to stick with the stock tunes

Yeah, until it goes on and on. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but i’ve seen plenty of negative from a couple of people on here. I then have to wonder why they’re even here is there’s so much to complain about. I mean if you don’t a like a feature or certain aspect, then that’s fine, but when people are finding something wrong with so many things, i wonder why they’re not looking for something they’ll actually enjoy.
It’s one thing to have an opinion, but it seems self defeating to find so many things wrong, when you could be elsewhere actually enjoying something else. Gaming should be fun, positive. There’s not as much of that round here as there used to be. Not by a long way. Some of that is down to questionable design choices by the devs, and some of it is from a new breed of gamers who find fault with everything, without understanding how a game is actually made. Then go on to say it’s ten minutes work to include feature x. It just gets on your nerves after weeks of the same.

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THIS!!! It’s honestly ok to criticize a game, I’m sure we’ve all done it, but when that’s all you do, it’s just rude and disrespectful to everyone who put months and years into the game!

Preach it, brother.

Honestly, there are some people who will never be happy.

No matter what people do as developers, no matter what choices they make, who they choose to sign on, what they choose to check out, there will people just READY to hate. It is a lot easier to hate and deny something than it is to enjoy something.

Follow the pattern that has worked for years, just so it’s familiar to the fans? “No, it’s unoriginal.”

Come up with something new and is outside of the box? “It’s just a cheap gimmick.”

Include features and ideas inspired by other games that still make your game better? “Cheap devs that have run out of ideas.”

God forbid anybody just look at what a game has to offer them and say, “I’m happy”.

As long as there have been games, there have been haters. I’m sure that when the first Neanderthal discovered the game of throwing the rock in the lake and watching the ripples, there was another Neanderthal next to him grumbling that, because it took billions of years to form the rock, the game spent way too long in development :wink:

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Welcome to the internet, dudes!

Empty cans rattle the most, and the 'net is full of them. These Forza forums aren’t even that bad, compared to some. Good moderators.

That video made me cringe because they were saying wrong stuff, trying their best to find negatives but the main guy always trying to stumble over a positive. He thought it was super fun, and said the other games comparing were dinosaur set up races wise and just boring and yet he says he is more excited for them… So what did people expect for H2? the bucket lists are very new, perks. there’s tons of events, more cars and no one has played the full game. Of course it feels the same if you played the first, why would it not?

Everyones focus when it comes to games now is how the game looks. It drives me CRAZY. That should be like number 5 on the list of worries in games. People nowadays would rather play a movie then play a actual game that plays amazingly and has a crap ton to do. A game looking better does NOT EVER make a game better. I know these new systems want to showcase but lately everyone would rather focus on a blur or a draw distance, 720/1080p, 30 vs 60 framerate instead of if the gameplay is a broken mess, game is boring as… (gets off soapbox)

The thing that’s new to me was them saying after you become champion you control it and it opens up a whole new section… what?

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1st time poster, have had my eye on this game 4 a while. The discussion kinda derailed from x360 vs. x1, so I’ll try to stick to that: I don’t have an x1 (casual gamer here), so I have no choice but to get the 360 version, so whatever diff’s exist r kinda significant 4 me. So far, I think I’ve seen ONE 360 pic (official update), kinda sparse foliage, flat-ish lighting. I’m really hoping 4 more info very soon, pics/vids/360-specific previews. They’re bothering to release a 360 version in the 1st place, so may as well do right by those who r considering purchase on that platform.

Btw, environmental detail is more important to me than 4 sum of the other posters here (like I said, casual gamer). I’m looking 4ward to a kind of virtual vacation to S. Europe w/this game, & if the 360 version’s grfx (specifically environment/foliage/buildings/lighting) r ridiculously worse than the X1’s, I will b reconsidering purchase a LOT. I’m also a bit concerned about the map being “2x larger on 360/3x larger on x1”, not sure y that has 2 b? 360 can handle sum BIG maps (Just Cause 2 LUUV that game! XD).

Another thing that bothers me is no weather on 360, cuz it’s supposed 2 b impossible, open-world racer & such/MUCH more complicated than just track-based racers. I get that, but then I look @ GTAV/Sleeping Dogs, pure open world games, w/ not just cars but everything else u can imagine, & they both had pretty sweet rain effects on 360. So what’s going on w/ FH2, which is just racing (albeit superior racing)? U don’t have out-of-car character controls, shooting, reactive npc’s populating the world, mini-games, flying/boating; ALL the stuff/mechanics that can go haywire in sandboxes r not present in FH2, just excellent driving…but rain is a bridge too far? o.O. Even TDU2 (flaws & all) had passable rain/clouds.

Anyway, just putting this stuff out there. I obviously don’t speak 4 all casual gamers, but I probly speak 4 a lot of us in voicing these concerns. Still very excited 4 this game, would really appreciate sum, ANY 360 info, TY

I don’t think it’s a matter of what they can or cannot do on the 360, it’s a choice they made what they want to add or not to the 360. I’m sure that if there only would have been a 360 version we would have seen everything, except for the drivatars perhaps, in the 360 version. If they add weather to the 360 as well, the loose a strong selling point for the XO. Don’t forget this is Microsoft, they want to push the XO, not the 360. Problem is that the XO will not generate enough income, so they do depend on the release of a 360 version still as well.

The 360 version is a trade off… making it interesting enough to buy, yet not as good as the XO version. We know about everything the XO does is possible on the 360, we’ve seen it all before in various games. That’s not the point, the point is creating an inferior version then what will be released on the 360. You also have to consider the development time. Playground has less then a year to create a game, while most other open world driving games took years to complete. I don’t think they could have achieved more on the XO then what they’ve done so far and for such a short development time, they seem to have done pretty well. Because of that, the 360 version isn’t going to be what it could have been.

Still, Horizon 2 for the 360 will be a good game. New world, truly open this time, more events and more cars. Granted, it’s not what it could have been, but for the price asked, it is decent. It’s a lot cheaper the XO version and that is quite fair and nice… gives me some extra cash for buying the crew. That one is supposedly to be a direct port from the next gen version, only with toned down graphics. They show that it is possible, it all comes down to choice. They don’t have to push the XO as Microsoft does :slight_smile:

For the price asked we get a decent game that will be a lot of fun, but personally I wouldn’t mind paying the full price if weather would have been included and instant multiplayer for the people who like multiplayer.

My copy of Horizon 2 for Xbox One is costing me the same as the 360 version. So that’s good. :slight_smile:

Papa, why do you keep saying PG has had a year to complete Horizon 2? They’ve had two years, you know since the last game. They work separately from Turn 10. I’ve said this to you before, it’s like you’re incapable of absorbing knowledge! Turn 10 =/= Playground Games.
I’m not even gonna go into the other mistakes you repeatedly peddle. The xbox 360 has been lagging spec wise for a while, but dev’s have got really good at using it efficiently. That doesn’t mean there’s an endless well of power to be tapped. It has limited power which has to be budgeted out to a games various systems. You can’t just do weather, physics at 360fps, massive open world, and online because papa benjamin said it’s fine. I don’t know how you think software/hardware interaction works, but games are neither limitless, or ‘magic’.

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Almost 9 years since the day It came out. NINE. It’s a bloody miracle they can squeeze it like that.

Just because you say it can’t be done doesn’t make it true either :slight_smile: Besides there are too many example of released games (even driving games) and upcoming games that prove it can be done. We really don’t have to discuss that at all, it’s a fact that weather, physics, massive open world and instant/constant online can be done, there are too many games that have done that. This has nothing to with what I say or you say, it’s just the way it is. Existing and upcoming 360 titles prove it.

I know Playground and Turn10 can develop independant, but since Horizon uses the Forza5 engine and the XO hasn’t been released that long, they have not been working on Horizon 2 for that long. Yes, for the next version they do have 2 years of development time, but both Forza5 and Horizon 2 show they did not have the regular development time.