I was just thinking about a concern I just had that FH3 might not look as good on the original Xbox One, but better on the XB1 S. Will the original XB1 still be as good, though?
Gameplay wise the games will be identical.
Xbox One S supports 4k but unless the game ships with 4k support then graphically they will be the same too.
Xbox have already announced that software for the new ‘Scorpio’ system will be cross-compatible with Xbox One. So it looks like we could be moving towards a PC / mobile type upgrade system where software works across multiple consoles but with better performance at the more expensive end of the spectrum. Also would leave MS free to release new consoles more frequently for those that can afford it. Just my musings on the matter.
I’d like a source where they said the sky would be different on the One S. The sky is a huge improvement over previous titles, but there shouldnt be much difference, even between PC and Xbox. Of course PC will always look better. With One S’ HDR, just all the colors will look a bit better (I guess)
The Xbox One S supports 4K VIDEO, not games so it will still be the same 1080p 30fps. The One S is basically a a slim Xbox. It just has upgraded HDMI ports (1.4a on One, 2.0a on One S) So the newer HDMI port supports 4k, and the old one doesn’t. Performance wise, they’re almost the same. The One S just has capability to use HDR (high dynamic range, better colors) IT’S THE SAME CONSOLE, just smaller with small updates like I said earlier, AND THE SAME GAME. I have no idea where people keep getting these “facts”
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That is Microsoft’s goal based on what they were saying. It depends on how the developers choose to approach the multiple consoles. They may just lock their games to the lowest spec platform and not bother to unlock game aspects to utilise the more powerful machines as they are released. Unlikely, especially for the triple A games but always a possibility.
Wasn’t the xbox 1 s 4k capable for videos only? Not for games?
Just to let those of you know who aren’t familiar with 4k technology with gaming, that there are no 4k PC monitors that support a refresh rate higher than 60hz at a 4k resolution. This basically means that when you’re playing racing Sims using a 60hz monitor at a 4k resolution, the picture gives you headaches and it looks terrible because of the ghosting.
I have a 4k Samsung monitor and playing PC racing Sims on the monitor was dreadful and unbearable. I then went out and spent the money on a BENQ gaming montior that supports 144hz refresh rate at a resolution of 1920 x1080 and their isn’t any ghosting whatsoever, and in fact the racing Sims run heaps smoother and more realistic!
I am aware that the Xbox One doesn’t support anything higher than 60hz refresh rate, but I’m just letting you know that if you were to purchase a 4k TV, like the existing UHD TV’s, if you’re watching still pictures the picture looks amazing, but you go into a store and see one of these TV’s playing a movie that’s got a lot of fast moving action scenes, a majority of these latest 4k TV’s still produce ghosting.
This is why I still own a Plasma TV and will not by a UHD TV until the most expensive models drop considerably in price.
Ghosting can cause headaches and can even make you feel dizzy and a bit nauseous when watching fast moving objects on your TV.
However, if you can afford to purchase one of the latest and greatest 4k TV’s that has a 4 core processor and runs at a minimum of 400hz at a 4k resolution, then go for it, and the rest of us will be very jealous.
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Xbox One S supports 4K but not 4K Gaming, thats the Scorpio, the hardware in the Xbox One S wouldn’t even be able to run the game at 4K, it would be waaaay too demanding on the hardware. But yea Scorpio would probably work at 30fps at most maybe and even then it might struggle, remember that 4K essentially needs 2 to 3 times more power to run compared to 1080p
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Developers only have to add higher resolution textures, and tweak the color and lighting within the game, so when the game is projected on larger TV’s that support 4K resolution, they will look more vibrant and more defined when running at 2160P.
In saying that, if you were to buy a 100 inch UHD TV that is only a 200 Hz UHD TV instead of a 600 Hz UHD TV, then you will notice a significant difference with fast moving objects in games such as racing games. Just like a PC monitor, the lower the refresh rate, the more ghosting and blurry moving objects will look on a UHD TV that hasn’t got a decent quad core processor and doesn’t support a refresh rate of 600 Hz.
I’ve been looking at a lot of the UHD TV’s, and many of the new ones on the market look absolutely amazing when viewing 4K scenery like landscapes, but as soon as there is footage of a movie with a fast action scene, I’ve noticed a lot of the TV’s still get ghosting because they only have dual processors and are running between 200 to 400Hz.
In Australia, if you’re prepared to spend almost $8000, then the most expensive 80 inch UHD TV’s running quad processors at a refresh rate of 600Hz will give you a awesome picture without any ghosting or blurriness.
Now if you are going to play the game on a 4K PC monitor, keep in mind most 4K PC monitor will only give you a refresh rate of 60Hz using the mini display port port connection which they all come with standard now.
I can only think of two PC 4K 27 and 29 inch displays on the market that produce 120Hz at a 4K resolution, which is definitely a must if you are into racing Sims or fast action first shooters.
You’ll need a 4k display or HDR-enabled tv to support any benefit from the S over the current Xbox One.
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They said the sky would be different but not by much.
no. the only thing you may see different is HDR and that’s only if Horizon 3 supports HDR
Forza Horizon 3 does support HDR, but yeah, other than very, very incidental improvements from the slightly increased power of the XOS, that’s the only improvement you’ll see.
Right now if you want the best version of the game, that’ll be on PC by far.
I read an article on Polygon about this last night, here is an excerpt from the article specifically about Forza Horizon 3: Microsoft plans to support the Xbox One S console’s HDR capabilities with Gears of War 4 and Forza Horizon 3 this fall, both of which will ship with support for HDR". Here is a link to the article. Xbox One S to support HDR color via HDR10 standard - Polygon
The only difference you will get in game is the black level and color accuracy benefits of the HDR. Game will still perform identically (1080p30), per Microsoft. The real difference depends on the HDR capabilities of your tv (which may be able upscale your content to 4k, depending on the tv, but generally leaving the signal at the native 1080 looks better & crisper than the upscaled 4k signal, which usually softens the image too much).
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It’s worth mentioning as nobody has, you need a HDR TV to use the HDR feature.
After reading this I’m still confused. The best i gathered is you’ll need a new tv. I got a smart tv a few years ago and sure as hell am not buying another tv. Lol.
I’ll probably buy the S so I can move the older xbox one to my bedroom. Are 360 slims worth anything? If not I’ll keep it in storage.
I know what they are claiming, or we are hearing but if you people recall horizon 2 was supposed to be identical on xbox360 and xbox1 but the xbox360 version was complete and utter garbage. Pretty sure they are claiming xbox s as 3x as powerful as the one… i think horizon will shoot for the stars and develop the game mostly for that and semi neglect xbox1 version. Or if not horizon the next rendition of forza will do that.
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No, not at all. In fact Xbox officials have stated clearly that this is not the case.
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Before my eyes finally start to bleed with all the nonsense posted here … just some facts for the XB fanboys …
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the XBox One S is just a shrinked down version of the Xbox One, nothing more
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the XBox One S has NOTHING to do with the much more powerful ‘Project Scorpio’
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the XBox One S does NOT SUPPORT native 4k gaming
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the XBox One S has exact the same GPU performance as the XBox One with 1,31 Teraflops
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the CPU of the XBox One S is the same, but with a LITTLE (!!!) more power ONLY FOR HDR support.
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thanks to it’s ‘new’ HDMI 2.0 port, the Xbox One S supports UPSCALING to 4k by itself.
advantage ? … NONE ! since almost every 4k TV supports this by it’s own … (in most cases … even better than any external player or home cinema receiver) -
you need a quite new TV or monitor with HDR support, to gain any advantage from the XBox One S
Here’s a article about it at german gamer website pcgamers.de click <<< just use google translate for english version, since i can’t post a link to the translated version at the moment for some reason 
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… with a HDR image comparison (Dolby Vision) at the very end ^^
Here’s the interview with Phil Spencer himself, asked for any perfomance difference of the Xbox One compared to the Xbox One S → click
Finally … hardware specs overview:
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horizon 2 was never supposed to be identical on the 360 and the xbone at all, they were made by 2 different companies, and thats part of the reason the 360 version was pretty much rubbish