So have to be honest, not really seeing any improvement in graphics for Forza 7 on the Xbox One S vs Xbox One X. But three back in FH3 last night and it clearly looks much better than FM7.
Is it possible I got a bunk download of FM7 4K? I checked the assets download and confirmed Scorpio installed.
Also, can find a single comparison video of FM7 that shows this massively vidual improvement vs FM7 on Xbox One S. All the videos that are online look the same.
Sounds like a scam
I can’t tell you if there is a difference between X1 and X1X, cause i dont own them. However just by looking at videos on youtube, sometimes its hard to tell because these videos are not raw videos but encoded. Details can be lost in that process.
FH3 and FM7 however, they both have a different visual art style to them. Cars will look great no matter which of the two you play. Details of the world/circuit however, that is something that can drastically change yea. Also FH3 will still get a 4K update in january 2018, but that doesn’t mean the game will look better just because its rendered at a higher resolution.
When you render at FullHD or actual 4K, the amount of things to process goes up by 4. This is where hardware power comes in, to make sure it can render at 4K, some details might have to suffer to maintain a stable framerate. Will you see it if you are on the couch few meters away from you 4K TV, probably not. Can a 1080p game look better than at 4K? Sure it can.
Is 4K gaming on console just a marketing tool? For the time being, probably is. 4K gaming isn’t even mainstream on PC yet. As time progresses, so will hardware that is available at that time. 4K might not be a big deal yet, it could be in the future when the graphics cards are actually strong enough to pump out framerates to support your 100hz+ monitor or tv.
There is something fundamentally wrong with the lighting system in FM7. Lighting system is something that can drastically change, how the game looks. In general FH3 is more polished and looks nicer (to me at least; I play both mainly on PC with graphics maxed out with DSR 4K downsampled to 1920x1200). The sky in FH3 is something from another dimension.
That’s my thoughts exactly. Somebody at turn 10 hasn’t spent some quality time with the lighting and overall art direction in FM7 in 4K hdr as was don’t in FH3 HDR. I was sitting watching the clouds go over in FH3 and was casting crazy realistic shadows everywhere. The 60’ Vette has mud & splatters of rain Beading on the car.
FM7 looks like a cartoon plastic toy and cars don’t blend in with the rest of the tracks. Rain doesn’t look real and not a single bead of rain nor dirt collecting on the cars. And yeah, the lighting is whack.
And I’ll alwats get the same rookie response, “do you even 4K tv bruh?” Come on, seriously. I’m buying an S coming off an One and I don’t have HDR set? Right. And I then I bought an X without 4K HDR? Does anybody even do that? The TV Is Samsung KS9800 UHD 4K HDR. Plays 4K HDR perfect even on YouTube. Blacks are so pitch black it looks like it’s off.
Again, FH3 in HDR looks amazing. FM7 not so much. So it’s the game
Loading up Spa in the rain was when I finally really noticed the One X’s capabilities. Also make sure you’re running your X at 4k. It embarassingly took me a week to realize it doesn’t just happen automatically, my TV only had one port that does 4k (which I wasn’t using), and I think you still have to enable it in the Xbox settings after that.
I would recommend checking all the appropriate settings on both your TV and your XBox OneX. On both TVs and consoles, it looks like in most cases the default settings do not enable 4K and HDR. Once I configured my TV and OneX correctly, FM7 in 4K/HDR looked significantly better. And to me, with my setup, FM7 looks significantly better than FH3 (FH3 does not currently have the OneX 4K enhancements).
This is probably the issue here.
Major Nelson or some Xbox video covered how to make sure your Xbox was properly set up for 4k. Seems like default is not 4k.
Sounds like a scam? Really? For goodness sakes.
What are you playing the game on? Do you have a 4k HDR tv or is it a FHD? Does it have HDR capabilities?
Coming from an original Xbox played on a 4K HDR OLED TV to my XOX on the same t.v. it is night and day. Draw distances are improved. Shadows are improved. Reflections are massively improved. Grass and other track aide objects are improved. Vehicle interiors are now fully rendered in exterior view. Competitor vehicles are rendered fully at greater distances. Lighting is vastly different and more punchy (this could be due to HDR however). Vehicle textures and major roadside buildings look to be higher quality. Load times are marginally better. Menus do not lag as much.
Should I go on?
The price of 60 FPS on consoles.
unfortunatelly FM7 does not look really good on PC either.
compared to GT Sport on the Pro, FM7 looks relatively worse on my 4k/60 capable PC and the B7 OLED than GT Sport on a 4,2 TF machine displayed in HDR.
except for the resolution, it blows FM7 on the PC out of the water.
That’s not really a sound argument when taking the XOX specs into consideration. It’s GPU is comparable to a de-tuned GTX 1070 with a significant ram jump allowing higher quality textures to be loaded.
If anything holds it back it would be weak CPU speeds by comparison to a similarly speced PC.
Hell my gaming PC sitting next to my XOX is now less powerful and I spent a considerable larger amount of money on it (albeit 2 years ago now, it’s a GTX980 +i5)
I’ve not yet played FH3 on the X, too busy with FM7…but to me the differences are quite significant overall. I will say sometimes you will be more impressed than others, for instance the Suzuki Track during the rain looks phenomenal, sun passing through clouds on wet floor. To me everything is much more detailed and crisp. it’s a massive improvement overall, I wouldn’t be able to go back now to the S. That’s just me though
It’s also worth noting that there is no “Xbox one x” patch for Horizon 3 out yet. It is due in Jan according to the devs so the only enhancement it would get over a base Xbox one would be HDR (not including the S of course)
It is worth remembering a few things. FH3 is a 30fps game. FM7 is not, thus some things may not be a “amazing” by comparison. Another thing to remember is that the skybox in FH3 was actually filmed in real life in Australia and then put into the game, presumably this includes weather but it may be embellished somewhat. Thus comparing it to FM7 is again not a fair comparison.
Rain does bead on cars and dirt or track dirt does collect on cars.
I would also point out that not all 4k HDR tvs or monitors are created equal and nor are they set up the same. For example with my own LG 4K OLED HDR t.v. it too me a while to fiddle with the settings to make my HDR games and tv shows look good, I will agree that the lighting in the non XOX F7 does seem off however with my XOX it now looks perfect.
Again just because you are having a rubbish time with the lighting does not mean everyone else has the same experience or feelings for the above mentioned reasons. And it does not then mean that the game is automatically terrible or broken etc.
Agreed, but it’s broken for me. I’m going to stick with FH3 until they fix FM7. Don’t want to waste time with it being lackluster. Once they fix it, I’ll try it again
It’s broken for you, doesn’t mean that “it’s broken’ - period. What it jeans is, that unless you have optimum setting on both your tv, condole and in-game settings, of course the game won’t play as it was designed to do.
This is what happens as we progress intechnology. The one join thing that consoles had over PCs back in the earlier years was that every console, and every game had the same settings.
Whereas every PC gaming rig had a variety of different components, settings, power usage, power abilities. So that’s why PC gamers could push their rigs to look amazing over the consoles. That didn’t make consoles less desirable, or the PCs were better. It simply meant that at the time, both were very different gaming experiences.
Now, they are competing against each other. Developers are having to design both a game, and a console that can take advantage of not only current technology, but in future technology. They have to build a game that can be comparable between PCs and consoles. That they meet with New and future TV technology.
They don’t build it for what’s currently on the narket, as that’s changed the moment the game hits the shelves. They have to future proof it for both game development advancement, and TV technology advancements.
When you get a better TV, or set up the game, tv settings, then there’ll be a difference. But that means that you’ll have to invest the time into finding out the individual advancements of both the tv and your console. Spend the time to find out how to advance both, so that you get a better experience . . You do have to put something into it after all . . . It doesn’t happen automatically, as others have pointed out.
You must spend the time to smooth out the best in both your tv and console, and game settings . . It ends up being a better balanced experience.
And I’ve dine nothing with mine, yet I can see dirt, dust, water beading on cars, the ground, windscreens etc in my UHDTV and my Xbox One S 2 tb console. They look great actually. But the lighting in the so-called garage is pitiful, and even taking pics inside it are terrible. You can’t tell correct colours or placements, and measurements are out more often than not when doing rendering of liveries. . But that’s another story.
FH3 doesn’t have as good a lighting system as FM7 imo. There are some broken aspects of the lighting in FM7 But overall it’s much better. Colour doesn’t really effect me (colorblind) so I cant say there but stuff like rain is far better.
FH3 is locked to 30 FPS therefore they can have better graphics at the cost of framerate
Actually you are wrong. Everything is setup and working for other 4K UHD HDR Games/videos/etc
So yes, FM7 is broke, you just don’t realize it
It is not broken. Period.
Rather than blaming everything else and telling us we must be wrong can I suggest that you try uninstalling everything and reinstalling?
If you are still having issues or cannot see any differences then frankly I do not have an answer for you and would suggest perhaps there is no issue and you are just unable to see the differences, which it seems everyone else is able to see.