If the AI is really based on real people’s driving, it’s an indictment on some players! During the latest ‘The Trial’ against avatars, the beginning of the races were full of drivatars bashing left and right, seemingly intentionally ramming people. Also further into the races you’ll get the bash! What the actual…
They used to say that the AI was based on our driving styles, but I’m not sure I believe it anymore. I think they’re a combination of on rails, and point to point pathfinding.
But yes, last Saturday during the Trial, they were particularly dirty. They not only tried to ram me, and push me off the road and out of checkpoints, but I witnessed them deliberately veering off to ram teammates multiple times as well. It was a spectacle to behold. But we beat them anyway.
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I don’t think the drivatars are based off how we drive anymore. These rammers are all level 1.
I can guarantee that they are not. Here is an example of how I know this is the case.
Try this experiment. Start one of the weekly race events. Do the first race. Note the results carefully including the name of the opponents and the points each received.
Now, enter the second race, but quit the race after the race has started. . Choose a new car. Enter the second race again. Check out the lineup. The score are still the same, but the opponents are scrambled as far as which position they are in.
Just to prove this wasn’t a one-off, I have done this on multiple occasions and it happens every time.
It you do this again for the 3rd and final race, again the points will remain the same, but the opponent positions will be scrambled again.
I am totally convinced that at the start of a race, the game just randomly picks from your friends names and assigns them to random starting positions (and if you don’t have enough friends, names will be picked for you!).
I have even raced against ‘unknown’ from time to time as well.
I know in my races, luckeydoug1, latotheX and Alan JT are the most offensive AI in the game. Talby71 isn’t too bad unless you want the inside corner.
I just assumed that’s how they drive in real life.
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When racing in solo mode, i do make use of the walls, but I do not do any intentional ramming. When racing S2 and X class, I will be involved in unintentional collisions from time to time due to my lack of ability to control those cars very well in races, but still no intentional ramming.
When racing in multiplayer I am even more careful in trying to avoid contact
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Lol, I thought that’d get your attention 
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The AI rams me out of the flags quite a bit. It doesn’t surprise me they would program the AI to cheat. This latest update empowers cheaters by allowing them to ram people then be rewarded by having the clean driver get the penalty so PG clearly doesn’t care about any kind of fairness or rules.
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While I am sure that originally our drivatars were supposed to mimic our driving, but I started noticing in Horizon 3 that that was no longer the case. It was especially evident when I did that long race over and over to grind for points. In one race player A would be on my tail the entire race, but a couple of races later, that same player couldn’t stay on the road to save himself and would end up dead last. Depending on the number of laps I had the race set for, I would actually lap that same player in a later race… the same one who was neck and neck with me the entire race in an earlier race.
No, I am very sure that my friends names are randomly assigned at the start of a race in Horizon 4 and have no resemblance to how that player actually races. In addition to my example above, how else can it be accounted for that CRracer, for example, is my closest competitor in one race series, yet not even competitive in another series.
Even better, one of my friends who hasn’t even played a Forza game since Forza 5 shows up in races in Horizon 4 from time to time, and again is sometimes quite good and other times is horrible.
I call shenanigans LOL
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If drivatar’s were to “mimic” friends lists of FH4 racers god help you if you added me. Bull in a china shop and "where did that corner come from? " springs to mind. Joking aside I have noticed a definitive change in AI driver behaviour. This weeks Trial created more carnage and damage than Donald Trump without haircare products. The Weaving aspect of AI drivers was incomprehensible unless they were trying to get heat into their tyres as if they were in an F1 warmup scenario. Could someone maybe do a short clip of this weeks trial and upload it to prove we are not all going fruit loop? At least this week myself plus randoms managed a 4-0 win but in saying that Mini’s are a lesser target to play bumper cars with!
Yeah, I like the schpiel they gave in FM 5, but noticed after adding friends it was bogus.
Seems it used to be, friends. Would battle to front in 5 and 6, maybe 7 too. Same for fh3. Fh2 and fh4 seem to have a club member up front more often than not, though not a friend.
Talby’s wife’s avatar is usually the one that’s giving me a run. Not always, but more often than not.
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Friends who also play, and members of your clubs are prioritized, with randos filling out the grid. But the driving styles vary by what position they’re in. When you’re in a championship, and you’re down points, like Doug pointed out, the point leaders will end up in the back of the grid to give you a fighting chance, and the driving style will change accordingly.
The real people being not professional racing drivers but Forza players.
lol
Congratulations: you found out Unbeatable Drivatars are aggressive and attack without provocation. What took you so long?
In the next episode, grolschie finds out about M. Rossi, the mother of monsters…
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That drivatars are based off real players skill/style has been the oldest lie in forza history.
NO, the oldest lie is that Drifting is mainstream and everybody loves it and wants to do it. Drivatars are #2.
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I wouldn’t call it a lie, necessarily. I think maybe it was something they were trying to do back in Forza 5 or 6, but couldn’t get it to work just right, so they replaced it with whatever system they’re using now, and they just didn’t mention it again.