Tuning setup questions

Ok first one. When you go into tune and upgrades goto setup manager you can go through a bunch of tunes to use from other people who loaded them in there. Then as you go towards the end there are a bunch locked and she. You click on them it doesn’t let you download them. Some explain why thee won’t download but they are posted in there?
Quesrion 2.
When choosing a car you see 2 differetnts setups one says current the other restricted. How do you load the restricted setup. When you go into homologation it says nothing needed. I would
Like to use the better setup with more horse power. How do I use that one and not the current. Or does it depend on the race. This whole homologation thing has me baffled. I liked Forza 6 where you can just use anyone’s tune in any race.

On the first question, I think FM7 shows a locked icon with no tune data if there is no tune to display. Either that, or it’s still a bug that’s been in past Forza’s… not showing you the stats for a tune someone uploaded (but I think you could download those anyway… you just couldn’t see the stats before hand).

On the second question, homologation is a set of restrictions put on a car in a specific division. It allows for a more balanced playing field for cars more likely to compete against each other, without the goofy cars people will tune to a given PI (ie all those Jeeps, Beetle’s and Trucks you saw competing in certain classes in FM6). When you see the warning icon on a stat for the “new” tune, it means that tune exceeds the limits of the division your car is in. Example, “Forza GT” is division for all the modern GT race cars and it has a set of Homologation rules, like under 600 hp and 835 PI.

The lobby settings determine whether you can use “anyone’s tune in any race” or whether it must be homologated. If it’s a homologated/division lobby, you won’t be able to run the goofy extreme builds of FM6 and blow by Ferraris in your Willy’s Jeep.

I personally prefer the new setup. Now, I’m racing cars I’d expect to be competiting, rather than the Frankencars with swapped motors and no ability to turn or brake.

So basically, they’ve separated the goofy/fun/recreational racers from the serious/competitive racers. One of the biggest complaints of past forzas was that divisions weren’t well balanced competitively even with a given PI restriction. PI isn’t balanced either (at the same PI, one car may still have significantly better overall performance than another). This is why people who ran private leagues/clubs all had build specs for each car that they tested and balanced against each other themselves, and required participants to use those builds (usually still permitting tuning). In FM7, we have homologation, and cars you’d expect to be competing against each other are finally reasonably well balanced and the extreme builds are prohibited.

I get that and I agree it’s more competitive that way then I guy in a VW bug running 2000 hp. But how do I get to use the second Division the top one is current and the second one underneath says restrictions how do I get to use the one that says restrictions. Is there a way to choose that one in free play they are both S800 class but the one I want to use has bigger tire with a more horsepower I’m talking about as an example the Audi or 8V 10+2016. I was just wondering if there’s a way I get to choose which one instead of being stuck with the current division and not the restrictions division. Wait now that I think about it is that basically just telling me I can tune my car up to those restrictions but no further without breaking out of that class? maybe I understood the whole thing wrong I thought I had a choice to choose either one. I’m coming to the conclusion is what it’s telling me is OK here’s the current specs and if I wanted to tune my car I can’t go beyond the restrictions specs is that correct ?

That is correct, you can’t exceed the tyre width, power or PI and you must run the compound restriction.

Your other issue with setups is caused when people unshare their setup after setting a time. The shared icon remains on the leaderboard even though it is no longer available for download.