This is exactly how the physics thread went.
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If they can improve PVP racing gameplay design /track design / clean racing / matchmaking I dont really care about ranked.
And I think for many people who dont interest in ranked still need reason for replaying standard PVP.
Unlockable item etc
He/she was hit by a car going to fast to ever make it round the bend no matter what type of turn they took.
Yes you are correct. I dont know why anon think I want to “force the leader out”
I am the leader… (and I remember I winning by points too. )
I am running inside to avoid getting divebomb.
It is high chance to getting push into that area and get stuck if running outside.
Run inside atleast sometime people dive my rear and push me near the path
Run out-in-out = sideway on the street = people dive me from sideway I lost more speed and push off the street into that back alley
Those clips are all of team ranked and not solo ranked. There’s a big difference. Anyone could get grandmaster in team ranked by exploiting the flawed system where you simply had to quit a race before you lost to not lose rating. Basically being a grandmaster in team ranked meant nothing.
Solo ranked on the other hand didn’t have this flaw. The best players were indeed the best players and they drove clean. Ramming was rare in high rated solo ranked, and if you did ram intentionally you were punished. Grandmasters in solo ranked were on a completely different level to the best players. If you rammed them intentionally they were so skillful that they would literally destroy you and make you not want to ram again. Again I’m speaking from experience.
So maybe we’re talking about different things here and I could definitely understand where you’re coming from if you’re referring to team ranked. But not solo ranked and that’s all I care for. Team ranked was fun for warming up and all but it was a joke due to the flaws.
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In solo races it just become multiple club members fighting/ramming/bullying individual player instead of color team. Again there is no system to stop that.
I think there are some topic talk about that in reddit. Not only from me.
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…which means what? They would ram you? Basically you are saying that rammers get rammed which is exactly the same as saying that the best players would ram people. All you are trying to do is hide the ramming in some sort of good natured ramming… which doesn’t exist. There is no way to tell if they rammed you because you rammed them by accident. You have used mind reading as an excuse for ramming.
The Vortex of Danger is your fault – you suck at racing this is a good article and a lot of the contact I see or have previously experienced is the result of it. Many times I look back and think “I put myself in a silly position there and let that happen” left too much room on entry, got greedy on exit or just wasn’t patient enough.
The first person I look at if I end up getting wrecked is me.
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In FH4 no matter it is in or out or what line you are taking
If you try to use brake they divebomb you in high speed or full speed and use you as the brake.
If you move away let them go 1st they now get 1st. so you just give them free overtake.
If I dive in the corner into wall like them. they are still going to sandwich me and use me as a wall so now I got stuck and they get faster exit.
There are no choice actually
After wall riding patch in custom lobby this is still a thing because in freeroam rush there are no ghosting and wallrideing slow down.
And there are no matching in freeroam off
I think what it boils down to is in FH, FH2, FH3 and FH4, I could easily see myself living in any of those beautiful places. FH5, not so much.
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In FH5 these ramming/divebomb/group bully much less likely happen but it still need fixes.
Collision assist for example.
When I am the fast one I worry about overtake someone at apex/brake zone but they close the door at the same time.
When I am the slow one I want it to protect me.
When I and others drive different cars in different pace we get clean/close racing more easily.
So we dont have to spend time on here blame each other about the “right of ramming”.
And I suggest label people if they are in same group. (xbox party)
Like some FPS/overwatch did.
This right here is why I had to stop playing FH4. I called out those who participated in that exact TOXIC behavior by name (probably not in the best manner, I mocked them) and I pretty much got a permaban. They dont care how you play, they just care that you keep playing.
I didnt moan, complain or even talk about it. I’m sure many of you had no idea until this very moment. I know I was right, they even admitted to it, I just didnt go about it the correct way. It is what it is.
Its actually a good game but ye…
the collisions are a pain, most seem to be on purpose altho i do owe a few people apologies for accidental clips when tyring to avoid them… so i do know accident s do happen… and more often in cars that are not properly tuned for racing.
so i know… but it still annoys us but a lot seem to be on purpose whether on yourself or you witness it ahead of you on others (usually by the same driver who caught you…)
I suggest a new type of race with different collision algorithms & penalties for the ones who enjoy cleaner racing
Also some engine and/or drivetrain swaps should probably be in the class above… i enjoy trying to keep a car original but only a few can cope with anything online , they all do pve-H.sk easy and seem at that time a good car so i save the tune… ive found out since that some are not so good…
there is a balance issue somewhere in tuning/conversions
true most times, but ONLY when you know what you are doing on a track…
This game allows wall crashers to sometimes end up ahead of the ones who didnt… that can only encourage that behaviour in those who drive badly…
its the arcade type of game, it always has been that way, its a more mixed crowd
Why are there some many crybabies on these forums? It’s a video game, if you’re not having fun play something else lol. FH5 has millions of players, PGG doesn’t care if you quit.
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People are quite like-minded… 10M players can all leave a game in one go. The people that complain are trying to save the game from such a fate.
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@LilTim07 No, playground does care if you quit. They want the numbers. What they don’t care about are the numb to the game players who just accept the game as it is and play with complaints.
@AquaPainter168 Yes, complaints are legitimate. But only if playground is listening and willing to work on changes.
There is much about the game I like. But the list is rather short.
There is much about the game I think should be changed which could make the game better. And that list is long. And in agreement with many many players.
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Uhhhhh you’re anoying…
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Strange. I believe you but never encountered this. I started playing solo half way through FH4 life. I recall GMs would often queue together and only play once or twice in a season to retain their rating. I would often beat half the GMs and lose to the other half. I never got rammed by them though, even when beating them. I believe you though. So would they gang up on you or something? Was this in CC? You were a killer CC driver.
As I have said a thousands time before, play what exactly? The genre has dried up so considerably that Horizon, despite being a flawed pale shadow of what it once was, is still the best racer available. Also, the old “Why don’t you play something else?” shtick is more tired then people complaining. I suggest that you hush, and that the people who hearted your response be given the hats of shame.
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