The marketing over this game has been simply atrocious. The development decisions, like keeping models from FM2, Forza Aero from FM5 and such has also been ridiculous. The fact so many tracks have been cut (cars I’m far less annoyed about) is also undeniably frustrating.
The game has every indication and red flag of a disaster. I’m praying it’s not the case. Nostalgia is what will convince me to buy the game at launch, as I’ve played (and loved) most FM games from 2007 onwards but if this is anything like the previous three entries, I won’t be buying another game from them.
Well it sure looks amazing.What do you honestly expect,what would make you happy little man? They have upped the graphics,physics,sound,weather,tod effects look amazing what more could they possibly do to make us happy? Of course they reused cars from previous games,what should they do to make you happy leave them out,would that do it? I want the old cars…all of them,and some new cars as many as possible.Same with tracks,I want as many as possible at launch so I don’t need to buy track pack dlc’s.What if the game is awesome at launch? Are you going to find something to complain about and pressure people to get on the hate train? Why not make a post about how they have improved various aspects of the game,pointing out the positives or anything positive at all?
Was FM7 having bad graphics? It was already good graphics, but it just unstable and can crash mid race, great graphics is not everything. I hope FM8 is more stable even at high FPS like 120+.
Graphics are barely an upgrade. I dont care about weather. They have reused models from games nearly 2 decades ago, same awful aero and the track list is smaller and also the exact same from the last few games.
What we want from a full reboot of the franchise which this is supposed to be and ground up build is new car models that are accurate, better tuning adjustments in all aspects and a larger new variety of tracks. no reason we cant have 30-40 tracks at launch after waiting for 5 years.
Plus again this is supposed to be a reboot of the franchise so everything should be new and changed not a copy paste of FM7 with upgraded tire models
I know nothing about this game except for one really, really bad signal - the catastrophically old & loathsome forza aero is still there.
I don’t mind other issues so much. I’m not a demanding customer. But having old forza aero at this stage is nothing but needlessly vandalising good cars.
I don’t think Forza Motorsport will be “awful” in any way. It will just not be exceptional. It has technical bells and whistles so the mainstream media will instinctively give their 8-9/10 on it, and casual audiences will buy it. Most will play it in Game Pass so Microsoft will be able to brag about X million “players” in a week or so. From that point, it will not matter how many copies are actually sold. The core community will probably not be satisfied but this franchise is not for them anymore anyway. This is a mainstream, “simcade” game for audiences raised by the Horizon series.
It will most probably end up being a technically sound spectacle, something they can promote Game Pass with. A marketing tool, not a true, deep experience for racing enthusiasts. That’s Gran Turismo 7 and Assetto Corsa Competizione. But will it be “awful”? Absolutely not. I’m sure Turn 10 will ship a polished, working game, just not tailored for this small subset of gamers visiting these forums. It will be a refined, graphically upgraded version of FM7 with fewer cars and tracks, probably more focused on racing cars but with traditional Forza smoke and mirrors (and aero, hehe).
It will be a good game, but people who require a more serious racing experience probably better look elsewhere. We’ll see.
fm7 was released on oct 3 2017. it was delisted on sep 15 2021. thats about 4 years before the license expired. probably 5-6 years includeing pre release development time. development on fm7 probably began in 2018. its 2023. thats 5 years. there is a chance the short license period greenwalt like because it could force players to give more money ever 2 years has expired before they released the game so they have to totally start from scratch on getting licenses for the game. the game may have been delisted before release. i think its time for dan to step aside and let someone else take over, someone who still cares.
And then you have the community of visually impaired and disabled people, who never had an accessible mainstream racing game such as Forza Motorsport.
There are racing audiogames for the blind, but they are very simplistic in nature. If things work out as I’m thinking they will, then the “single pllayer building cars career mode” will be an all new experience for that community in particular, because we know nothing about building and tunning cars. There are some who had no idea that you had to slow down in order to turn in a curve, due to lac of experience.
I expect that too. This console gen is rather young still and think it is at a limit of what can be done today, almost. If it does 4k 60 fps would go a long way, I think, if most of bling-bling can be on.
I know 120 fps people will riot over me saying so
turn off some bling-bling and do 120 then, even go 1080p
Got this 55" 4k monitor last fall, and can’t say difference is that big from 1080p that it’s anything to tell grand children about. Going 65" and up maybe it shows more. Limitation what eyes can resolve at viewing angle less than 45 degrees.
The current console generation is not young anymore. The consoles are 2.5 years old now, they will be 3 by the time Forza Motorsport arrives, and a more or less regular “generation” lasts about 6 years. So we’re already at half time, sort of. Safe to say these consoles didn’t set the world on fire in terms of graphical power, but maybe it was naive to expect so in the first place. The only trick the new Motorsport can show up is the “raytracing on track”, but it’s deceiving as well – firstly it will look much better on PC with more RT features, secondly the price for that is that the new FM looks about the same as FM7 did five years ago. Only with RT this time. Not a “generational leap”, and especially not “from the ground up” – I hope we won’t hear that phrase during the Xbox Games Showcase (we will).
I agree that expectations can be too high, but I also think that a 5-year hiatus and the marketing emphasising that this is a “brand new experience” make the current expectations perfectly valid. It’s not like only the usual two years have passed since the last Motorsport. It’s been five years, a generation change and we are literally promised a “new experience”, built “from the ground up”. What this means is that the new Forza Motorsport should be a brand new game, a project started from scratch, which it clearly isn’t.
What we’ve seen so far is clearly the FM7 base, with dynamic time of day and raytracing bolted on to it. It’s also possible that some resources went to the wrong direction, boasting enhanced track scenery which barely anyone will notice during gameplay, especially that it’s completely motion-blurred anyway, yet another Forza antic. We could go on and on about how this is the same Motorsport as before (unrealistic lighting, cartoony color palette, reused old car models etc). If this took Turn 10 five years to accomplish then we have a big problem.
So I think the disappointment coming from the difference between expectations / promises and what’s currently seen is valid.