Hello ,
first little introduction. very loyal forza costumer here ,been playing forza for over 16 years (since forza motorsport 2) and bought every motorsport and horizon since fm2 . bought seasonpasses on fm3,4,6 so so spend quite a bit of money on the game. i loved fm2 ,3 ,4, 6 and hated fm7 with a passion bad physics (to much grip to easy , and 90% car 10% skill driver).
now we come to the new forza motorsport (8) subject. i love the new physics its much harder so the driver makes the difference agian wich i like. so thats a step in the right direction agian (physics wise)
now the bad and unacceptabel points (negative)
point 1.
-most of all the shifting , its unacceptabel . never had a race game ( i play alot of them over the years) wich such bad shifting physics. its so bad that i almost wanted to quite playing the game after 2 hours, so annoyed i was with the atrocious shifting. i even played fm7 with less hate by the beginning ( i played it for 3 months) .
why have this system ? its a simcade !! we had a normal shift system since fm3 (with clutch) and only like 5-8 % complained about the full throttle shift (since fm6-fm7) games like gran turismo just have normal shifting and you can full throttle shift since gt3 . the shifting (with clutch) takes me more concentration than the actual driving. sometimes i dont even dare to shift, so i set it on manual (without clutch) but its so slowww. so i dont even want to drive non race box cars anymore wich is crazy… so i only leveled 1 car and dont dare to drive another cause i get so frustrated with the shifting . and why? if you want to be more sim why has a porsche PDK a clutch ? assetto corsa all automatics you didnt needed to shift. (with clutch) and if you want to be more sim ,why is the animation still stick if you have a sequantial racebox installed? and why do you need to use clutch on upshifts on a sport gearbox (dogbox ) ? its got straight cut gears ( you hear the whine) so little lift throttle( 20-30% ) u should be able to shift up and only use clutch down the gears . (look at old V8 supercar footage) now i have possilbe solutions here:
-remove the system and go back to how it was (like fm3,4,5,6,7)
-make a stock gearbox shift like the old system . so not lift throttle, clutch ,wait , shift , clutch , wait , gas ,but like fm3,4,5,6,7 but then maybe that you need to go of gas for 30% to shift(so no full throttle shift) a sportgearbox should behave like a dogbox so upshift no clutch only little lift 30% and downshifts u need clutch. and racebox you can full throttle shift but the car has an ignition cut and you dont need a clutch at all (like reallife race cars F2 for example)
point 2
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the formula mazda is to OVERPOWERED in A class. its like 2 seconds anything else on tracks like maple valley ,catalunya , mugello. i know since the excistence of race games there is always gonna be 1 or 2 cars overpowered but this is just a joke . i just skip tracks like maple valley cause its boring with all these tryhards in there mazda formulas. i play since fm2 and know that fm3 had the audi S5 , murcielago lp640 ,viper 03 (A class) wich were quite OP and that 80-90% lobby where in audi S5 but still they where beatable with good driving in a non S5. it was because the S5 was overall strong but didnt excell in anything (5.8 handling heavy) , then i know fm6 had the alfa romeo 33 stradale (A class) but that wasnt easy to ride to go fast and on bigger tracks like catalunya there where cars wich came close to the times of it (S2000 ,22b for example) now we land in fm (8) the formula mazda is the fastest on a track like mugello how? its got very long straights . if i look at the handling that thing got it shouldnt be able to go so fast on a big track like mugello. i can compare it to the ktm xbow on fm6 same handling as the mazda (6,7 -6,8) but that was only fast on very small track called catalunya school and bernese alps school circuit , all others it would drown between all other cars on the track cause its 2 slow on the straights. so know it looks like handling is 10 times more important than speeds on the straight . in real life this shouldnt be possible 2 , a porsche gt3 with 450hp or a formula mazda with what ? 200hp on a track like mugello the porsche would win cause of the long straights.
maybe its not only the mazda formula wich just to OP but this just caught my attention.
to solve this problem i have these ideas : -
make the PI (performance index ) higher like 20-30-40 points .
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remove the adding weight option , i explain … in fm6 you only could get the furmula mazda in A class by adding drag slicks , what they now do to hold the race slicks is add weight to lower PI
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ban the mazda formula from lobbies, sounds harsh but been long enough forza player to know you guys did this before. examples : fm3 hot wheels boneshaker (dlc) cause people used it for ramming , fm6 range rover sport (dlc ) cadilliac limo (dlc ), mercdes tankpool truck (dlc) jeep trackhawk etc but not the land rover defender strange right ? i paid for ths cars but couldnt use them online ,sad.
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the hard option , change phyiscs that handling is less important like fm6
these where my points .
the game is still young so you can now still change these things for the better. if the game stays like this (especialy the shifting ) than i am not gonna buy the season pass wich i was planning to do , cause whats the point of driving new dlc cars if they all shift horrible and or they are nothing compared to some OP tracktoy (mazda formula) on track.
and if it stays like this the game is gonna die pretty soon mark my words, fm7 to died pretty soon . lots off diehard forza fans i know already dont play it that much, but when fm6 was still online everyday they where online. its only like 5-8% wich complained about the shifting , and you gonna punish 90% for that ? the forza needs to be sim screamers are only like 10-15% . there are already more than 100 sim titles but almost none simcade ( its a dying breed) you guys need to understand that you have pure gold in your hands (being still simcade) all games like assetto corsa, .rfactor ,iracing , raceroom, dirt rally all are sims , wich simcades we have? wreckfest(better phyiscs than people think) ? and u guys . please dont destroy the game i loved for 16 years. i went from gran turismo 3-4 to fm2 and never looked back please let it stay like this , and fix the isseus with the game.
kind regards loyal forza player,
Marco
but the problem is like i said tracktoys wich werent be able to go to A class without dragslicks are now and are OP.