SPEED HACKS/CHEATS In Online Races and ORGANIZED ATTACKS in Rivals!?

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Yes, you heard that right. HACKS going around in Forza Horizon 4. Or, at least, a seriously game-breaking glitch. EITHER WAY, this is a big floppin’ problem, and I believe some light needs to be shed on it. Let me give you the details of what went down.

So, I was puttering around in an S1 Asphalt Custom Adventure, testing out some tunes for the new LFA. Because, honestly, who else wouldn’t want to drown their ears in that godlike engine sound? Anyways, the third race rolls around, at Derwent Lakeside Sprint, and in comes an individual by the

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The dude’s a No-Star Level 48, running a Rank 896 BAC Mono. (They’d actually joined the race prior, but the recording I had of that race went missing for some reason.) They start sixth on the grid, I start fourth, and what happens? Before the “GO!” even fully appears on screen, I’m rammed up the back by this guy despite the fact that my foot was hard on the gas, and everyone was ghosted. I mean, they went from zero to sixty in well under two seconds, possibly even one second. I actually catch some of their momentum, but they go FLYING off into the distance, and at the FIRST CHECKPOINT, they hold a lead of over 2.5 Seconds. At this point, my jaw is through the floor, and I continue the race because I can’t believe what I’m seeing. At NO POINT throughout the ENTIRE RACE do any of us gain ground on this prick, and they clock a finishing time of 1:52.473, which nearly DNF’s half the field.

So, post-race, I go to check the S1 Rivals times, and that’s nearly FIVE SECONDS FASTER than any legitimate time held by the Shelby Monaco KC. Then, looking up the board, what do I see? Four players, all driving the KTM X-Bow GT4, three of which having extremely similar names, [Mod Edit] all with times under 1:50. HECK, the world record holder, with an absurd time of 1:29.229, goes by the name [Mod Edit]. I’m at a loss for words, and the only thing I can do is check all the other boards, and what happens? The SAME FOUR GUYS putting down IMPOSSIBLE TIMES on Lake District Sprint, Broadway Village Circuit, Astmoor Heritage Circuit, Ambleside Village Circuit, ALL OF THEM. Heck,[Mod Edit] has their mitts on OWEN’S MCLAREN. I don’t even know how that’s possible, but I think my point is made. Get these two topics going around, ESPECIALLY the first, and let’s get this thing fixed. Forza may be home to extreme skill imbalances and a questionable playerbase, but it has NO PLACE for cheaters and hackers.

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Just tonight I noticed that very same [Mod Edit]. That, coupled with all the miraculous 00:04.932 lap times sprinkled all over the place, smh. Its bad enough there are losers willing to w the game like that, but worse that PG seems unwilling to simply wipe the exploitive times, maybe even ban the repeat offender, nevermind/to say nothing of actually patching whatever the problem is.

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First of all I am not a native speaker, so I apologize for poor English. I’ve also stumled upon a couple of cheaters in online ranked races, and recorded a video about them. You can check it yourself:

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Are the cheaters. They launch 2 seconds before everyone else in all races. I am sorry if this is the wrong place for filing a complaint, but I dont know where to complain them? I inspected their profiles and they are playing on pc. I hope they get ban.

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Going by the ridiculous times and speeds on pr stunts this speed hack has been around for a long time but i have never come across it until recently in a ranked A-class FFA street race…

As of the past week alot of people who play ranked have been noticing it alot.

I am not the only player who has lost alot of points in ranked due to these cheaters. I wouldve thought that this type of behaviour online would be dealt with promptly (especially as its online)

Video footage of speedhackers:

https://twitter.com/lilconnie14/status/1226621106083291136?s=21

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IIRC PC players start slightly earlier than console players, that isn’t a cheat. Whether there is cheating in those videos I don’t know, but I do know that on PC I launch before others and can get a huge lead quickly, especially if I’m in an OP car. What balances this out is that when I ‘win’ on my screen, if another car is anywhere near me, they will be awarded the win instead, even if on my screen they are clearly well behind me.

That’s a separate issue from the legitimate issue the thread creator has raised though.

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I’ve done a couple of ranked adventures on PC, and didn’t see that, and I also haven’t seen it in The Trial, so there must be some other reason why you’re starting early in your races. Does one of the players host the race, so might the person with the most open firewall settings be more likely to be the host and start earliest?

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I’m not starting exaggeratedly early, but I do notice that I seem to typically leave the field standing. I didn’t know about the PC players getting a headstart thing until I read about it here recently. I had just assumed I was in a faster car / maybe using M+C when others weren’t, etc. If I was one of the other players and saw me rapidly shooting through all of their ghosts from the back to the front, I might think hang on a minute, that’s suspicious.

My point, there is definitely cheating in the game. But, sometimes what people think is cheating does have a legitimate explanation.

Here’s a video I made of a danger sign a while back. There were comments (which I ended up deleting) of people accusing me of cheating, saying I was accelerating impossibly fast and thus was using a hack. See for yourself if you think this is me cheating:

I tried to explain to them that it was legit, but they were resistant to it because they'd already made their minds up that I was cheating.
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In this video, he looks to start about 2 seconds early, is that how much earlier you’re starting? I certainly didn’t see that when I played a ranked adventure on PC.

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No, not that early. Out of curiosity I just videoed a few online races to see how much earlier I’m starting and how much lead I get. I’ll upload a video in a bit. It was unranked custom A class, with some fast players, and even so I was 1.2 seconds ahead of the field at the 1st checkpoint and 1.5 at the 2nd. Using an OP car, but also to maybe show people that what appears to be cheating isn’t necessarily. I know you yourself know all this already but not everyone does.

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We could maybe have an online get together of forum members in a convoy some time, xbox and pc players, and everyone records it from their pov to see if all the pc players start moving roughly the same amount of time before all the xbox players.

Did you see my post about how the behaviour on a PC is different depending on frame rate? Some tunes of the 599 XX Evo are about 15mph slower if you run at 120fps compared to 30, 40 or 60fps.

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That’s a sure thing. Speed glitch doesn’t work on 60 FPS on consoles so it could be similar on PC. If you have a thread we can continue there.

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This is the thread with a discussion about the 599XX Evo and tunes giving different results for different people:
https://forums.forza.net/turn10_postst160152_My-Ferrari-599X-EVO-Sinks-into-the-ground--hits-an-invisble-wall--goes-through-traffic-cars.aspx

I see you already posted 11 days before I discovered the different behaviour with fps on PC.

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That could be interesting. I didn’t see your post about the framerate issue, looks like there are a few weird things going on then. One would hope the devs are paying close attention and looking into it, but… who knows.

Here is a quick video of me starting, once at normal speed, then slowed down to 10%. It looks like I’m getting about a second’s head start. Naturally I assume this would look very dodgy to the other players from their point of view!

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That’s hilarious that people thought you were cheating when you’re so far off what can be done legitimately. I went about 200 feet farther here, should I be offended that nobody thinks I cheated?! :wink:

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Exactly, my distance is not special at all, I wasn’t going for any record, but merely to do the seasonal distance. But a few people were adamant I was cheating (and using rude words to describe me, charming) which is why the video has all the downvotes. Because some people assumed my accusers must be right, just because they were all too ignorant to see that the car and tune I was using was legitimately that quick.

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its a hack

type on google “forza horizon 4 speed hack” and you can downlaod this crap

kids have fun when they won

rammers, cheaters and free roam rush only in FH4 xD

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I quote MeGaWoNsZ9PL because some could think there is just the sync/start quicker issue. Just do the google and you will find out that hack it there for good. I am on Xbox so I cannot confirm it is indeed working but from what I witnessed online those last days, it makes little doubts it works.

For the start like rocket, I am on xbox and most often when racing online I am leading at the first turn. Reason is many have TCS and automatic clutch. Regardless that, I witnessed some cars starting before others but impact is like half a sec, nothing that compares to speed hack. Possibly it is a consequence of the speed hack …

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Some quotes from a discussion thread about it:

“Really nice, you can start races early with this too lmao”

“How diligent is PG about banning cheaters?”
“They’re not bothered at all I don’t think, I’m number one on an online speed trap and I haven’t been banned or even warned”

“Been using this for almost a week now and it’s really fun to use, it keeps me wanting to play the game”

It doesn’t matter what you do in life, people will cheat at it.

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Sad. Makes you wonder about the wisdom of bringing the game to the PC… but I guess it’s all about the money. Integrity seems lacking on both sides to some degree.

I would have bought an Xbox One X for this game alone, but as it’s on PC I didn’t need to. I assume cheating like this is impossible on console, it certainly ought to be.

If you are going to have games on PC with a strong multiplayer component, you need to be on top of cheaters. Most developers would do this as they know that cheaters harm their product, their reputation and ultimately their business. But I guess when you’re a first party dev of a trillion dollar company, you know you aren’t going to go hungry any time soon so maybe they think it doesn’t matter.

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Worrying stuff. Hopefully, they can identify the cheats and also fix the obvious dodgy times on the leaderboards but certainly hasn’t looked a priority to sort out in the past.