Has some dirty dog figured out how to unlock other peoples work again? I ask because it seems that someone is touting work that is virtually identical to mine, the slightest of changes having been made to obviously throw off the scent if there is indeed foul work at play. I mean these paints even have same incorrect font used in places where I couldn’t be bothered to make a new set of fonts. I only noticed as I happened to be in a race with someone who was using a design that was super familiar but was from a design I made in FM6. Another thing that makes me Suspicious is that in race he was called one thing but when I searched for his store it couldn’t be found. However I managed to find the design under another name where I found a load that were so similar to the point he’d need to purposly make them slightly incorrect from the real thing in order to make them so similar to mine . Theres even a copied fantasy paint I did again with the obligatory one logo swapped. Thats another thing, he has 300 paints to share but no vinyls. Seem strange that you would go to the trouble of creating vinyls for designs then not share them. I realize there could be other reasons for these things but I just wanna make others aware if we are suffering from the same paint thievery we suffered with in FM4. Thanks. If anyone cares to give an opinion message me thru ‘live’ and I’ll give u the gamer tag so u can compare his and mine. My GT; Initia1 B. … I’d just like to add that I’ve checked further and there is no doubt that my work has been some how unlocked so how do I go about reporting such a thing? It would be greatly appreciated if anyone could point me in the right direction. Thanx again B.
People can sell designs that incorporate your work as a feature of the game. You are supposed to get credit for it though and to have some of the Forza credits they make from it. Nobody is entirely sure how that works as you just get credits for paints or vinyl’s without being told if any of those are part of 3rd party sales. If only they could just bring back Forza 4’s style of Storefront and Auction House. So people actually know what’s going on with their work.
Holy wall of text Batman!
Have you got screenshots of:
- The design in your storefront.
- The design in their storefront.
- Screenshot examples of differences/similarities between both designs.
Yeah, like what PJT said, I’d be interested to see your evidence.
Same here. I’m on the forums here (and others) every day and this is the only report like this I’ve seen since the game released.
I dont know how to put up screen shots im a touch useless in tech regards. If its possible to take one of someone’s paints (not individual decals) and add a single different logo to it, then pass it off as your own work then perhaps im mistaken. If thats the case then its not very good is it? I aways thought paints were locked like tunes are. Please correct me if im wrong. Where is the point in spending hours creating work’s if the next man can stick it in his s.f. and claim it as his own. I dont want to be throwing accusations around if I’m getting it all wrong so please tell me if what I said above is indeed the case. Thanks.
To take screenshots on console:
double tap the XBOX button, then press Y (I think, it will show you at the top of the screen.
To post them here: Login to your Xbox live account on https://account.xbox.com/en-US/Social then go to Profile. scroll down and select captures. click on the one you want, then once it opens, right click and copy image address. Then create a post in this thread, and near the top of the message box is the little “globe and chain” button, click that, paste the copied image address, click ok, then type a short description and click ok again.
That will paste a link to the image, to actually post the screen shot requires more steps and an image hosting site. Hope this helps, let me know if I need to be more clear.
What you’re speculating above isn’t possible as far as I’m aware, as soon as you try to change anything to do with a locked design it removes the whole design from the car, or rather, gives you a message telling you if you go ahead with the change, the livery will be removed.
This has been my experience as well. If I buy an AH house car and want to say, change the rim color, I can’t without removing everything in the process.
When looking at cars in the AH, I have seen vehicles with paint from the current artist and a “+ contributors” mentioned thereafter. You can look to see who the contributors are from the auction menu.
How does that contributors thing work? I didn’t know there was a way to let other people work on your designs. As far as I’ve been aware, I’m the only person that could edit my designs, but I just today saw “+6 Contributors” on a design in the AH and didn’t realize such a thing was possible. How would you even go about doing that?
The thing is if you’ve recreated logos, they could also have recreated logos. If it’s using the same incorrect font as yours then that would suggest they used yours as a template.
You don’t own the sole rights to recreate something. I made some great stuff in the past, but other people made similar logo’s. It doesn’t mean they ripped me off.
This is true. I’ll admit that I have used items from the store as a template. I wasn’t doing it to copy them though. I’m relatively new to a creator this complex so trying to recreate designs is helping me understand how to use what is available in the editor.
Imitation and deconstruction is pretty much what the paint editor is all about for many people. Some people like Little Vixen can just throw stuff together, but others need a source image to recreate. That is inevtiable with logo’s anyway. If you want to make a BTCC touring car, you are just copying all the logo’s and design language to recreate that car, and many other people will probably recreate it too. When I ran in a BTCC league on Forza we had 3 different designs of one car, and two different versions of a couple of other cars. Some are just inevitably more popular than others.
When I first started painting in FM3 I would do this for a lot of logos I could not figure out. I would simply download the logo from the store front, open it up in the vinyl editor and begin working on top of it. Once my logo was the correct size and the outlines match I would delete the locked logo, do the last touch ups on mine, and then save mine so I could use it on my paints and not have a locked set up.
Eventually I got good enough I didn’t need to do this.
Nothing wrong with that. In fact, that’s why I share all of my logos online.
People are free to “trace” them. Gifting would be ideal but Turn 10 don’t want us to collaborate with other painters for some reason.
Horizon 3 is my first Forza game. This is what I do also so that one day I can also be at a place where I can do everything “freehand”.
I remember Me monkey 8 me gave me a couple of his vinyl’s to see how he put them together. It didn’t help. That guy is a genius! lol
I miss his layer count competitions. But thanks to Turn 10 messing up all the community features stuff like that is gone forever it seems… 
Using various vinyl groups, from different creators to create said livery for a car = +(x) contributors? (X representing any number). They cant share, said liveries, however I don’t think it would stop them from selling the car on the auction house. I could be wrong but that seems the most logical explanation I can think of.
You can still sell a car in the AH that way. I’ve bought a few and sold a few that way. Under the artist section, it will say the the number of contributors.
I think it’s cool personally. Even though I did 99% of the work, they still get credit for their work.
I have a Chevelle in my garage now I drive regularly that has a vinyl I made on the rear quarter panels giving credit to the person who’s art I used for the theme of the car. These are 1,000+ layer pieces so there would have been no way I could create something like these. Not yet anyway.
What made me think my designs had been ripped off was that it wasnt just a collection of my vinyl groups, it was the entire design with a slight change to it. It included vinyl groups that I had not made available for download. ‘Tracing’ a decal in vinyl editor is one thing, copying exact very small lettering whilst its on the car is another. I mean it shouldn’t even be possible to do so. Maybe the person in question did decide to somehow make a near exact copy of my self invented design. Who knows? I just wanted to make others aware incase someone had figured out how to unlock our work. Cheers, B.