facts inconvenient to your view are not “nonsense”.
You’ve complained that there aren’t enough bespoke race cars in the game.
We’ve pointed out and you have conceded that “you’re in the wrong game for race cars” and now proceed to spit on people disagreeing with you.
If you want bespoke race cars - go play those games that have them.
Oh wait - they aren’t open world - so now because that is what you want - that is what Forza needs to be?
Also your hypocrisy is astounding.
The devs created this “audience” with their negligence. The devs never mentioned horizon is a production car racing game or production cars should be preferenced more in the game…N i’m not creating any problem. read my post carefully N thoroughly. I never said I want all race cars in fh5. I want a balance between race cars n production cars. I’m not selfish like u all that even after getting production cars every month still not get satisfied N ask for more. They only added 7 race cars out of 64 total free cars in this year. If u can’t see this, it’s not my problem. Anyway I don’t expect u or any production car people see n understand this cause it might decrease ur production car supply in future.
What lol? The devs need to remember the production people that Horizon is not their game as these people think it’s their property n only production cars should come. They think they will decide what come to the game n what not. The devs should show them their place.
Read the full paragraph before commenting. Well I don’t expect that from u but still. I said without visual support current weight reduction is just a nonsense. I never said weight reduction is not there.
Really!! Cars are also one of the most important parts in a racing game. So car features r extremely essential like i mentioned about car tires,brakes n aero parts. Now if they want to add other features, it’ll be definitely better.
Well if u r this smart then just tell me where it’s mentioned that horizon is a production car racing game??? Or where it is mentioned that Horizon should have more n more production cars than race cars???
U can’t show me as these r ur own imaginary conclusions…not only yours but all production people like u think like that.
who told u that I’m in a wrong game?? I’m in racing game where the devs give race cars in paid dlcs like both expansions n car pass as well but ignore when it’s time to add them for free…n i’m not spitting on u or people like u…that’s not my type. I am not even here to talk to u people. It’s ur problem u r commenting here.
I’m here just asking for a balance between race cars n production cars by showing them the injustice they have done to race cars till now. I’m talking about they haven’t given a single rally or offroad or drift car this year. They shouldn’t do such things. They should take more care about racing n race cars.n for ur convenience I never meant only touring cars as race cars…I clearly wrote that in the beginning of this topic.
I just answered this above.
Keep ur knowledge to urself.
Horizon is a series about driving around a big real-world map (for some definition of “real”). It’s almost like the devs chose to focus on cars that would, y’know, actually be driving around on the road. I really don’t think that should be hard to grasp.
According to production car people. U guys think horizon as a car gta but Horizon is an open world racing game. It’s a festival like goodwood fos. So anything can come to horizon. From a isetta to a RB18 just anything…so Race cars should come more to horizon. N I’m not telling there should be all race cars. I never mentioned that. There should be a 50-50 split between race cars n production cars… not some insane 89%-11%. They added a lot of race cars in the car pass n in both those expansions so more can come. N more should. So u have fun with ur production cars n we’ll have fun with our race cars. I dont think it’s this hard for u people to swallow. N why do u guys being so protective about this matter…the devs will think about it. Not u people. So just chill.
You are quite possibly the most vocal troll and hypocrite I’ve ever encountered on the internet.
Pro tip: if multiple people are telling you that you are behaving like a child (without those words specifically), it’s probably a good idea to stop and keep your big argument for race cars to yourself.
I’d also like to come back to your point of “there’s only a few dedicated Rally cars in the game”. Almost all of Lancia’s iconic rally cars are offered in their Stradale variant, with Forza giving you the option to convert them back into their rally spec siblings. Every Group B car is required to have a Production Version as per Group B’s rules. T10 saw it fit to add these production versions (in a game where driving casually is in fact a subculture) with the option to convert them back into their Group B spec if you want (or in the case of the Audi Quattro S1, as an entirely separate car since that was basically the case with the S1).
Stop complaining about a non-existent issue, stop pretending you have a moral high ground because the game’s description doesn’t specify that it’s meant to cater to everyone, and that it’s probably not meant for dedicated racers who are only coming to the game to race, and stop holding your head up the tailpipe of a Tyrell T70.
…there are no “production car people” here. You’re creating a silly false dichotomy. There are just people who look at the game and realize, “Given the setting of the series, it makes sense for most of the cars to be production-based.” Horizon is not Goodwood, nor has it ever pretended to be like Goodwood.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, which I get & try to respect, but for me, the thing that still amazes me the most, is despite 800+ available cars (which is unbelievable imo) there are still complaints.
I’m not biased toward production or race cars, as I enjoy both, but will say that I never had a preconceived expectation of anything close to an even split of the two given the availability. I’ve just enjoyed the amazing variety of all ends of the spectrum.
I’ll just quote myself from another topic, which sums up my view fwiw:
I wish more cars had that as a customization option, to me it’s probably the best compromise. I know he won’t agree because it’s not good enough for him unless it changes the interior, even though interior customization to that degree has never been in a Forza title before and it’s probably a huge ask at this point due to possible reasons such as licensing and the time and cost required to create custom interior parts for hundreds of cars.
The problem is that in practice there’s still many cars in the game which still come with the same generic Forza aero. Yes, I know Forza aero has been talked about to death at this point, but PGT10 still hasn’t really done anything about it as of yet. It seems as though new customization is way harder to get added into the game than new cars.
Sure, we’ve been getting some new aftermarket spoilers and bodykits, but the problem is they’re only available for select cars like the new 7th gen Mustangs and the Miata RF due to licensing. Cars such as the Le Mans homologation specials still don’t come with Le Mans aero, even though that would keep up with the theme of cars like the Alfa Romeo 155 Q4 with its knockoff DTM body kit and the aforementioned Lancia Stradales with their rally style bodykits.
I personally like both production and race cars. The main appeal of race cars to me (and by extension anything else from the Extreme Track Toys umbrella) is the high cornering ability and grip, but that doesn’t mean production cars are bad in and of themselves. Many of my favourite cars are production cars. It’s just a letdown when prominent cars such as the TVR Cerbera Speed 12, McLaren F1 GT and Nissan R390 which have been in the series for years still have the same generic Forza aero as ever before. I think these cars would look really cool and more aggressive if you could customize them with their actual race parts (not to mention it’d make that tail happy Cerbera a bit easier to drive XD) but to each their own.
Another alternative would be to overhaul Forza aero with a system like GT6 and GT7 where you can customize the wing’s height, width and the shape of the endplates. Maybe even introduce advanced colour options for the spoiler. That would do a lot of the heavy lifting.
To be honest I’ve gotten to the point where customization only brings me short term morsels of enjoyment, so I’m probably better off turning my attention to non-car features like improvements to EventLab and blueprint etc.
Who r they n who r u to tell me what I’m doing is right or wrong. They’re doing this so that they will get more production cars in future. I know their purpose very well. Don’t try to teach me.keep ur tips to urself.
Don’t talk like a kid…those cars just have bodykits…I know that very well. N u think those r group b rally cars now…it’s because u r not a racer. Without proper race interiors those can never be proper rally cars. I dont expect u or anyone obsessed with production cars to understand this as well. So shut ur mouth.
N what about subaru n mitsubishi???they r so famous in rally n how many rally cars do we have from them in fh5??? Only one from subaru n that’s also a supercar(mainly rallycross) not even a full blown rally car. N U r telling me that I was wrong when I said there are not enough dedicated rally cars…LOL!!!
I’m glad u shared ur feeling. I dont wanna be mean to u…I just wanna ask u one question.
They didn’t add a proper drift,rally or offroad car since s22 n this is s40. What’s ur opinion about this?
I participate in local rally races IRL, and both my Audi Quattro and Camaro IROC have a good few wins under their belt. You’re just a squeaker troll on the internet who’s all fumes.
I know what a rally car is, I think.
I’m not sure what the definition is for this, nor am I even remotely “qualified” to speak to it if I did, but imo, there are already (what I would consider) some iconic representations of each already available in the game, so it’s inconsequential in my view, but again, that’s just me 
U have won some local rally races with ur car n u r talking about group b…my goodness…seriously:joy:
that’s why u feel those Lancias as group b cars with just bodykits. Now I get it.
Yeah sure. But a toddler level one, not a PhD level one like group b or wrc…
I meant everything purpose-built for motorsport as proper.
So u don’t think this is wrong that they didn’t add any proper rally, drift of offroad car since s22.
No, I don’t actually, considering what I stated above & given my expectations. Also given the fact that they have continued to add new cars to the game weekly. Granted, not always cars I’m personally interested in, but that’s irrelevant.
That sounds nice, does the Quattro still ahve the I5?
To be fair, most of the major manufacturers still have large gaps in their car rosters that desperately need filling. Talking about production cars here mostly too.
I don’t disagree, but considering all the factors that influence that, it’s not unexpected imo & doesn’t necessarily devalue the volume of currently available vehicles.
It doesn’t devalue the current roster, no, but some players don’t know what they’re missing out on until they have it. Lord knows I’ve learned of several cars I didn’t know existed through my research for my car wishlist.
