Penalty for frivolous cheating accusation reporting?

Does PGG do anything about sore-loser types who decide to report frivolously/erroneously/falsely an allegation of cheating? Specifically, this was in the Eliminator. I have been accused of modding or the like, and I play on an XBox Series S and a television. I am 52 years old with zero computer coding literacy. I beat someone over hilly, wooded terrain while driving the Level 4 X5 against a Level 6 RS7 because I didn’t hit anything and he did. He then messaged me through XBox chat to say he was sending in a report with video. I’m not worried. I’m annoyed. Thanks for any guidance.

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Thank you for replying - it was just so bizarre, and then I couldn’t help but be angry. We will see what happens.

It happened to me a long time ago. He challenged me for a Bmw X5 and I beat him with the Escort lvl 2. He told me by message that he was a cheater, I showed him the video and I didn’t hear from him. :laughing:

If they spent the time sending messages avoiding trees/stones/houses it would be more productive…

Imagine thinking that submitting a ticket to PGG about anything would result in an actual reply…

To the OP, these guys can’t even fix their own game, I highly doubt they even look into cheat reports… why would they, it literally makes no difference to them…they still make boatloads of money, and everyone that bought game has already spent the cash.

Pretty much pointless to submit a ticket, so I wouldn’t even give it a second thought - the fact the person messaged you tells me they are a 13 year old child with nothing better to do, cept be offended…thats how the world is now…if your not offended your part of the minority.

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To my experience they do look into reports and will take action but not always. It’s a mixed bag but I also don’t know how they reprimand players. Maybe they just get a warning first and can continue to play? I’ve checked the play time for some of the harder cases I reported and some seem to have gotten a timeout for a week while some hardcore rammers that obviously only did it to annoy other players and to make their experience as miserable as possible seem to have gotten perma banned.

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You aren’t perhaps mis-remembering my complaints here are you ? They were about game bugs not cheats/griefers. And it was a “constant flood” of three or four bug reports each of which promptly got the usual generic autobot reply and nothing else. Subsequent reports of more bugs didn’t even get that causing me to suspect I’d been flagged for reporting too many bugs.

I beg to differ from my personal experience.

I reported this and nothing was done, there is nothing to deem or dispute over someone doing 3 laps of HMC in around 2:52 in an A class Corvette, they were also one of the 10 star level 2999 cheats which was still there when I looked them up again a couple of months ago for the sake of a discussion on here.

Do not have a go at me or anyone else who believes reporting is a waste of time when even blatantly obvious instances of cheating like that are not acted upon.

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As you seem to be admitting it was me you meant then it was pretty clearly insinuated you meant me too as one of those constantly flooding. As you now also slipped in an insinuation that I’m lying about it. And trying to pretend that the reason is immaterial isn’t excusing or getting you anywhere either.

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Serves you right cheater

So how else would you know for certain?

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I reached #1 in the world on a game with a community blighted by 1 person that we all knew was a cheat but could never get rid of in the 3-4 years he was around, so I have zero tolerance for people pathetic + desperate enough to resort to it and want to see them gone in any game I encounter one.

More needs to be done by the community themselves too as well as the devs, every other person I messaged on that Tour team didn’t even reply back to me, it’s no wonder people cheat in this game when they know a lot of it’s player base won’t even bother about it.

Salty losers + sour grapes like the ones OP is on about are a different matter, but if anyone sees one like I did in that video and doesn’t at least report them they are part of the problem.

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Maybe (hoping for better human nature) they still reported it even if they didn’t reply to you ? Maybe some were even a step ahead and reporting it before they got your message. But, yeah, maybe not.

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If you just sent them this part of the race then it’s no wonder they didn’t took action. How would they know what was going on in the two laps before? You could have very well messed up yourself which lead to this huge margin. I know it’s very unlikely and I don’t think you did but they simply can’t act on something like this. Your video also didn’t include the finishing time of that player which could have been proof that he did something impossible if it was below the achievable treshhold.

It would open the gates to people cutting videos in ways that make other people look bad to get them banned if they’d act on something like this.

I’m not really trying to defend them here but just pointing out the obvious. I’m also unsatisfied with some of their decisions and not taking action with some of the things I’ve reported that clearly are impossible. The problem here seems to be that the people concerned (the Safety Team) don’t seem to play the game that much and if they do simply aren’t good enough with it to even make out what’s possible or not in some cases. That’s why I think it would be helpful if they’d actually select some of the top 1% players to evaluate such things.

Sidenote: I’ve just got word that they’ve perma banned a respected player for a “violation” that didn’t even happend in the game. This player was one of the first to achieve max rank in this game. He had posted a dart board with the face of a staff member on it on Twitter because he wasn’t happy with some of his decisions. This was clearly ment as a joke and not a threat. What a disgusting behaviour!

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It’s almost irrelevant what @TheGillesMuller did the first few laps. It has everything to do with the cheater in question doing 3 laps of HMC in 2:52. I think the WR A Class for fastest lap on HMC is ≈ 59.2xx, which would mean the player in question would’ve had to beat the WR on average by more than 2 seconds on all 3 consecutive laps. At least if I’m understanding correctly.

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But the results (times) aren’t shown in the video and he didn’t mention that he forwarded a screenshot of them either. I’m not sure the times of Tours and such even get logged somewhere to look them up later on. There simply is nothing in the video that can be used to reprimand a player even if he finished 30 secs before the second one. Sorry, but that’s how it unfortunately is.

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Yes you are, it’s as simple as looking at the numbers.

How the hell people are trying to suggest differently is beyond me, look at their icon fly down the last straight, look at my time when the race ends and subtract 30 seconds for when the countdown will have started.

There is no finishing times to show because Tour didn’t have them when it happened, that’s why I recorded up to the point I did, if people actually engaged their brains for half a second to check the date that video is from they’d already know that.

Tell you what if anyone wants to say there is nothing there get yourself an A class Corvette and show me yourself doing the 3 lap race of HMC in 2:52, the time required to DNF me in that video.

It’s a bit of game knowledge + simple maths to see such a blatantly obvious cheat.

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There’s a 57 second Corvette lap sitting at 142nd on the leaderboard for HMC. If they can’t even manage to remove static obviously cheated times, I’d have low expectations of them penalising someone based on the time ran.

Whoever it was probably looked at the HMC leaderboard, concluded it only needed a top 100 lap time to do 2.52 and decided that there was no problem to be seen here.

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That does sound very plausible and no less than you would expect to be honest.

I’m more annoyed about a fellow forum regular trying to say there is nothing there as if I’m somehow mistaken, I expect the incompetent enforcement to think that but not anyone from the community on here.

So much for camaraderie eh?

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I’ve no problem to admit that I haven’t looked at the time in the top left. I actually never look there in general and take at best a glimpse on the times at the final screen. Such things simply don’t interest me much if at all. I’m not playing this game to post best laptimes. That said it obviously is at least a strong indicator that something was fishy in that race and should have been acted on.

Besides that. It’s nice that you seem to remember the dates when certain changes were implemented. I don’t because I simply don’t care.

When it comes to carmaradery…bwahaha. IIRC you’re one of the guys that comes into certain threads, torpedoes the cause and stands up for the state of the game and the devs when there are actually massive problems with both. But when Mr. Muller got declassed by a cheater that didn’t got banned the world is breaking down. Laughable!