Online is just atrocious. With 0 accountability for a persons actions the racing culture is just toxic.
I worked very diligently to get my rating to a nice S 4000+ Hoping to get into better lobbies with drivers who actually want to race.
That is definitely not the case, driver rating system is a waste of time. Drivers in any given room are more interested in that one position at any cost. Mashing someone off that track to gain ninth position is equal to a podium finish for so many of these people online.
I have been purposely entering races at the back of the pack and trying to work through the field. The culture is everyone use you as a barrier to stay on the track. Get the nose of their car on your back bumper and wipe you out so they can stay on the track and not slow down for corners.
That has got to be my biggest beef. In this day and age it should be so bleeping easy to figure out the inputs and see that a car is actually trying to PITT you. I think if you contact any car and steer INTO them you should automatically ghost.
TAKE 'PITT’ING RIGHT OUT OF THE GAME.
Just before coming here I did a LeMans race. Dude took out 6 other cars at L’Arche chicane. Just because other cars were blasting past him on the straight. He thought it would be funny not to use his brakes and ruin the race for others.
I mean is there ever going to be an end to this ridiculous and childish behavior? Turn10 really needs to step up.
No wonder player numbers are so ludicrously low, who wants to play when you are just a target to be smashed.
That is the world we live in you can’t blame the game or Turn10 for it.
They could simply add ghost lobbies, I would play that. But I am not interested playing racing games with contact. Because the majority of ppl are (censored) holes.
The trials in Forza Horizon 5 are mostly fine, because you play together against AI, but if you play only against players it’s a wreckfest too.
I don’t normally race online but I’ve just completed the achievement for 300 multiplayer laps this past few days. In that time there’s been a few bumps, scrapes, nudges and “racing incidents” yet only one case of someone actively wrecking.
I do try and anticipate what people are potentially going to do so I just back off and wait for a better opportunity. (I race bumper cam and can’t see to the sides so play it safe)
Maybe I’ve just been lucky but I was expecting much worse.
I rarely play multiplayer. For me I am more worried about messing up someone else’s race, rather than trying to place as high as I can. I have had my fair share of interactions with bone heads that want to play Wreckfest but probably cannot afford the game, so they settle for Forza. If I get collected, I just chalk it up to misfortune and keep on going.
When I do find a group of respectable players, I do push harder when I am reassured that they aren’t gunning for chaos. That makes multiplayer enjoyable, but that is kind of rare. 70% of the time, I feel like I am the lone adult trying to keep everyone from diving into a 3" deep wading pool.
Hi guys, I’ve spent 450 hours in multiplayer, I only drive in the TCR lobby and I can say that there is very rarely any unsportsmanlike behavior, quite the opposite. I sometimes drive in races that you could broadcast on Eurosport somewhere and people would say what a crazy action-packed race. But I understand what you mean, there are people in the multiplayer who have fun with it. If you want to improve your rating to over 4900 then go back to the Honda Lobby TCR, you can drive properly there and your rating will increase. Just a tip from me.
It is ludicrous indeed, especially the defense of it and claims that nothing can be done. Proper accountability, detailed stats, and allowing folks better information to see and make decisions on blocking and banning unacceptable behavior is a choice other titles handle much more effectively. Choosing to ignore it and take the “boys will be boys” stance is deeply flawed.
No one goes to a board game night and says, oh boys will be boys, the emotionally unstable table flipping behavior just can’t be solved… It’s a choice to perpetuate immaturity and defend it, instead of addressing it.
What happens if the ppl that ram ppl are banned from the game? The game will be even more dead than it already is. I can also imagine rammers not always ram on purpose, it would always have to be 100% clear that somebody does it on purpose. What about abuse of votebans?
Every system has it’s flaws.
If they would add ghost lobbies I am sure many ppl would play online.
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I thought next update is going to have ghosting for griefing collisions. But sh*t happens I was watching a mazda cup race and 5th place missed his brake point on a restart and bumbed 4th place, they bumped 3rd, which bumps 2nd and well he bumped 1st off the track at VIR. And thats racing…
While I’ve had bad experiences, I honestly have seen a vast improvement in my experience. I rarely come across someone maliciously trying to take people out. Maybe some over aggressive driving, which is fine and I can handle. I think MP has improved significantly, in my recent experience.
Some of the stuff I’ve seen and been the receiving end of has really put me off as well. The feeling of rage l, just stays with and ends up not being enjoyable. They make it so hard to report as well
Penalties being served in real time could be a solution to some of this. At the least it puts a significant gap between the person causing problems, they end up running behind the field, probably rage quit because now they have almost zero chance of winning.
VS the current system of do whatever you want and get time tacked onto your finish which counts for almost nothing since a couple clean races will make up for a race of griefing.
-Real time penalties (pit or slow down for ex)
-More races should be taken into account for your safety rating. It’s currently too easy to manipulate your rating which just a handful of races.
-Report unsportsmanlike racing. They WILL get a ban.
Your post outlines an issue, but “fix it” isn’t as actionable as proposing some things you feel will make your experience better.
Also, for all of Turn 10’s efforts (or any other developer for that matter), you can’t control people, some just want to watch the world burn no matter how many systems are put in place to mitigate that.
I did make a suggestion on how to fix some behaviours by ghosting players who try to PITT. It would be so easy to detect, by continuing to turn into another car. Without either braking, turning away or downshifting. Programming could easily identify inputs to see. If you are turning against the direction of turn and into a car you should immediatley be ghosted. Honest players would instantly correct…while dubious players continue that steering input until they unsettle and crash the other car.
Oh yea that said incident at L’Arche chicane netted me 4.5 seconds of penalties from being crashed into. I quit out of that event. I sure would have liked to see how many penalties were alloted to the other drivers that were crashed into.
I’ll know better for next time and save the replay and then look at the even scoreboard to see how much the victims were penalized contrary to the perpetrator.
TCR lobbies have provided some of the best action I’ve had in any racing game, period. Races around Kayalami and Catalunya that fit what you described with close safe dueling for the entire race duration.
Most spec lobbies are a different breed: TCR, GT3, GT4 (death by lack of bop and diversity though), and even Formula Mazda. But TCR is always the cleanest and closest.
The only open class lobbies that are consistently safe are Multiclass and D → A.
People overly worrying about multiplayer griefers and not giving at least TCR a fair shake are missing out. It beats the hell out of playing against arguably worse AI that jam their brakes on straights and sweepers and do the same pit maneuvers with reckless abandon.
It definitely has. I shelved the game for several months and only picked it back up a month or two ago following the radar implementation and lobby changes (safety and hopper session timing). It’s a much better experience.
I ran out of replay slots from one week of racing alone because of how many consistently good races I wanted to capture (…and also bc the game only has like 10 replay slots, major fix needed).
Ghosted multiplayer is literally just rivals with extra seasoning. Racing is about the craft. People have to give it a chance and realize not everyone’s going to try to Goatifi you.
First of all, what you wrote are very nice words, you are definitely 100% right, there are people who just don’t want to drive TCR because it’s too boring or just not their class, but I can say to everyone here in the forum, go to the TCR lobby, give it a chance and you will drive races that you can otherwise only watch on Eurosport. It really is like that. I think t10 still needs to refine the radar a bit but otherwise this game is on the right track. We definitely need more storage space for replays, I would have saved 100 but unfortunately only 10 are possible.
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