Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD3S) 2002 - Inaccurate car model

This issue has persisted since the first Forza Motorsport on the original Xbox, but it was somehow made worse when the car returned in Horizon 4 Car Pass after a 7 years long hiatus from the series. The Mazda RX-7 Spirit R model in Forza is a complete and thorough failure to capture most aspects of this car’s exterior. Every single element that was acceptable on the Xbox 360 model was ruined when the car returned on the Xbox One generation.
The model is based on the standard 1993 RX-7 Touring 1997 RX-7, which itself is entirely inaccurate to a point where it’s been confirmed that it will be getting remodeled in the future, and for this reason I hope that the Spirit R does not get left out, as did the Vauxhall Monaro VXR in Motorsport 4 and then later in Horizon 4.
All comparison gifs present here were taken in Forza Horizon 4 (PC)

The entire front end of the car is, for the lack of a better word, abysmal. Every single part of the front bumper is shaped and scaled incorrectly to a point where I can say making this comparison gif was torture not because of the real life photo. The whole front bumper is stretched forwards and at a very sharp angle as if it was a snowplow. The bumper lights are significantly too large. Inaccurate side vent and indicator positioning is identical to the standard RX-7 model, and on top of it the Spirit R logo is too large. Obviously, everything is wrong with the pop-up headlights too.
RX-7 FD3S Spirit R

The rear end is around as bad, but that is again due to this model being just the standard RX-7 FD3S with a different front bumper, wheels, spoiler and seats. The entire rear end is either too short or extremely deformed in some other way, but the bumper and the lights are certainly all shaped incorrectly. Additionally, in Forza Motorsport the lights themselves are taken from the early model FD3S. The ride height and wheel spacing is also incorrect, but the car on my photos seems to have been slightly lowered.
RX-7 FD3S Spirit R v2

As a little extra, here are comparison gifs of the standard RX-7 FD3S. The model was last modified in Forza Motorsport 5 (2013), but the Xbox 360 model is still somehow present as lower LOD models.

RX-7 FD3S forza vs real

RX-7 FD3S forza vs real v2

When creating a new base RX-7 FD3S model, please also make a new model for the Spirit R.

I’d like to compare with GT7’s spot-on model, as it’s carried over from GT Sport.

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Okay just going to put this out that GT7’s Spirit R is not accurate either, funnily enough it’s just a updated materials base efini rx7 provided proof that it doesn’t even line up in the screenshot below.

Image below is lined up using a photography tool in blender and it’s not as accurate as people THINK it is so if Forza did actually decide to rescan the car it’ll be more accurate proportionally to actual car

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Ouch! It’s not as surprising though, I know the R34 GT-R V-Spec II in GT Sport and 7 is not fully accurate either, and in fact quite a few GT Sport models have this kind of inaccuracies, but I have no way of proving this. Maybe you could provide a model comparison for the R34 too?

Nah the GT6/GT Sport/GT7 R34 GTR is really really accurate exterior wise there’s no inaccuracies. Moving onto the interior though the R34 GTR is from GT Sport/GT6 and still has some oudated stuff compared to the R34 Z-Tune GT7 is now adding. You can see the differences between the two:

1st Image is from GT Sport.

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2nd Image is GT7. (Higher Topology and Detail in this image)

One of my biggest gripes is that they couldn’t even apply the proper factory wings on the car. They added the 92-95 wing as an option for the 99+ which wasn’t available in real life, but the 92-98 cars in the game you can’t put the real factory wing on the car. Realistically, the bodies of these cars are the same from 1992-2002 aside from the bumpers and wings, everything is interchangeable and should be able to be swapped in game as is regularly done in real life but at bare minimum, allow the factory wing to be installed on the correct years. I can make an almost exact copy of my personal car if it weren’t for the wing issue (and the RHD model being Mazda and not Efini.)

Same wing types for all RX7 and similar car models - FH5 Features / Car Modeling - Official Forza Community Forums

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