nascar category, late night in europe
in oval circuits they were moderately full. The tcr this afternoon, there were decent full rooms.
02/04/2025
Yesterday, around 11pm ET, Inhad a race with M3 Spec on Mugello short. There were 22 players, with most of them joining at 3.00 minutes from the start, as result of merging the lobbies.
From first to last, there were about 3 seconds of difference on the best lap, that is a considerable gap compared to best lap of 1.05. It was a nice and clean race for me finished 6th. I’m now 4650A.
Strange but I understand why but I’m A4999 I watch a a racer on YouTube live in a party that party is B4999 but we don’t race each other but I know there as quick as me and faster yet we don’t end up in the same lobby even tho we are both I small lobbies
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There’s bug that if u are in party of 5+ no one else will be able to join your lobby.
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European time 00:30 04/04/2025
in the last days
tc during peak hours improvements have been verified regarding the size of the lobbies and equal matchmaking
Had a race during my lunch-break, first time I’ve had a 20+ lobby since the patch
Ok, I’ve given more time. I went from multiple races in a row with high level players, to barely being able to get races with good drivers. Oddly, the only thing that changed on my side was hitting safety rating A after getting sick at B for a bit. So maybe the A / B cut off is a thing. I’ve had a couple good races since hitting A4999 as outside to B4999, but mostly not. Lobbies do revs to be fuller though, at least in GT spec.
What it has done is show the utter falling of the rating system. I found more dirty drivers at A safety than i did at B. Dirty drivers seemed to have figured out how to cheat the system to get you penalties. Especially pushing you off track when you go for passes, getting you a penalty even if you succeed, but seemingly never giving them won regardless.
But finding better drivers at a lower safety rating seems to confirm my suspicion that a lot of fat drivers have low safety ratings not because they are bad or dirty drivers, but the abomination that is track limit penalties. Fast drivers are unfairly penalized when they lose time going off track. You simply can’t drive on the limit and not make mistakes, and fast drivers get massive penalties killing their safety rating. Basically all safety rating is now is an inverse record of how hard and fast you drive.
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Its true that fast drivers do get penalties often for driving on limit, but not so much that they would drop below B/A, more often fast drivers are just getting rammed by noobs and get unjust penalty… if they do no qualify starts.
In one of my races i was just chilling and overtaking slower drivers, saw one made mistake and went wide, lost speed, and that allowed me to get on inside and overtake him cleanly [ u could even put 3rd car between us] tho i did miss my braking point a bit, he goes for cutback to get better exit, and decides to push me into wall, dies in process [cuz he was 1/2 car ahead], spins and i get 1,5s penalty for this…
On other side most of rivals sweats will just push u off line when u are too slow in corner [in open races] cuz i just like to drive low grip, high power cars, and meta sweats like to drive momentum cars…
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I’m fat and have S class safety rating 
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the pen system is a nightmare to be honest i am happy if i can end a race without getting a pen for people driving in me even when i leave more space than necesary or people just pretend i dont exists lobbys getting fuller but worse and worse with ramming and unfair driver slowly lost the fun on the game for now only time i can really expect clean races is at night for me and after single player is even boring and ki cant drive (yes turn 10 thats how people drive online becouse you dont show them how to really have clean racing your ki only shows the upperside) i am slowly done with the game even if i really like it when i have clean lobbys
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European time 00:15 06/04/2025
a race at rush hour with a high level and a moderately full lobby, it seems like something is being done and the races feel more competitive
skill rating doesn’t move I’ve been 4999 for ages and when I’m S rating and get demoted to A the rating remains where it was there just nothing to actually show you a increase or decrease. No issue with safety rating quite glad after a collision penalty I got demoted but feel this should hit the skill to but with out seeing how it works or how it’s broken down
@T10ManteoMax Is feedback still required? Update 18 “no longer exists” as we’re now on Update 19.
Were there any backend changes in Update 19 to further improve/address matchmaking? None listed in the notes.
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Since our latest adjustments just prior to Update 19, the team is seeing telemetry that matches the goal of well-populated lobbies. Of course this may vary with time of day and particular lobbies, but overall lobby sizes are now where they should be as of April.
The team is continuing to work on other issues around multiplayer matchmaking such as: parties of 8 or more matchmaking with additional players, time to matchmake, and connection issues. We’ll update the community as those changes take effect.
I’m closing this topic just to reset the feedback window. Please continue using Motorsport Troubleshooting > FM Report New Issues for issues around matchmaking not working as expected.
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