"I'm tired of the 'Built from the Ground Up' lie – here's what FM9 actually needs"

​"I’ve been thinking about the future of Motorsport…"
​Honestly, the biggest mistake in the last game was the “built from the ground up” lie. I felt so ripped off when I saw they just reused the same Silvia and R32 models from 15 years ago. For FM9, they shouldn’t even bother if they aren’t going to actually scan new cars. We need a focused roster of maybe 200 flawless cars instead of a “parts bin” full of legacy models. And please, for the love of God, finally retire that “Forza Aero” wing from 2011.
​If Turn 10 wants me to care about the next generation, here is what has to change:
​The “CarPG” and Career need to go: Stop forcing us to grind for hours just to unlock a set of tires. We want a “Zero to Hero” career where we start with a cheap used car, earn our way up, and can actually tune our cars when we want to.
​Real Immersion: The audio needs to be raw. Go watch the Koenigsegg Agera RS 0-400-0 footage—that’s how a car should sound: mechanical gear whine, chassis rattle, and unfiltered exhaust. Also, native VR support should be a day-one requirement for PC.
​Bring back the fun stuff: eSports is cool, but sometimes I just want to blow off steam. Bring back the FM4 playground modes like Car Soccer, Tag, and Cat and Mouse. Give us relaxed track day lobbies and maps actually built for car culture, like a Vegas street circuit or a massive US highway loop for drafting.
​No more drip-feeding: Don’t launch an unfinished game and pretend that adding base tracks back in later is “new content”. The game should be 100% complete on Day One.
​Hot Take on Funding: To pay for a massive $100M+ budget and get the quality we want, maybe they should follow the modern playbook and eventually release on PS6 too. Cross-play with a larger community would make the lobbies way more competitive.
​What do you guys think? Is the “built from the ground up” lie the biggest deal-breaker for you, or is it the boring career mode? ​I know some of this sounds harsh, but I only say it because I grew up loving Forza. We all remember how incredible FM4 felt, and it sucks seeing the series become “toxic” to even talk about now. Turn 10 has a choice: they can keep chasing “engagement metrics” and drip-feeding us old content, or they can actually build the masterpiece we know they’re capable of.
​If FM9 is just another “live service” grind with Xbox 360 car models, I think the franchise is officially done. But if they actually listen to the people who play the game every day, they might just save it.
​What’s the one thing that would actually make you guys excited for a sequel, or have you completely moved on to other sims?

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Is this more AI-generated fan fiction?

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If anyone in Microsoft has the stones and lack of intelligence to use “built from the ground up" after the disasterclass that was Motorsport 2023, they deserve everything that happens to them.

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I appreciate the enthusiasm, but this horse is long since dead. In fact, the body has been turned to glue, the glue has been sold, the glue has been used for children’s arts and crafts, the children have grown up, the artwork has been thrown in the garbage, and the artwork has been incinerated. In short, Motorsport is dead and not coming back.

“Forza Motorsport” title is toxic. If they do anything, they’ll call it something else. Forza World or something. It’s totally blue sky thinking they’ll do much of anything though. So I wouldn’t put my hopes up.

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“We demand…”

“We demand…”

“We demand…”

Yeah, good luck with that.

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It is about profit and shareholders.

With the FH series doing well there isn’t a need for another title.

Forza Motorsport unfortunately was a poor showing when it launched, was over hyped and in the end wasn’t worth keeping alive. Straight4 Studios is in the same situation with Project Motor Racing. The hope is they manage to salvage the title.

It is about profit and shareholders.

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you didn’t even care to write it, why would i read this slop

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