That was one of my favourites too, FH4, and Motorsport 7. But no game has realistic physics so far… so I’m still waiting.
I have played it for 240 hours. It IS fun for me, and I also focus on stuff that is kind of “neutral” to the formula (hot laps through rivals).
I do give them credit, the graphics are great, some sounds are great, and playing it is fun UNTIL they make everything a chore which happens pretty quickly.
That’s all I’m saying.
At least this time they didn’t pretend it was going to be different. “Seasons change everything” … or almost nothing at all, except that 1/4 of the time you can’t do drift zones and you get one extra drag track woo! And interesting to note that they cut back on seasonal changes even further this time, to the point that even the accolade to take a picture of a car in snow doesn’t notice that there is snow.
Blizzard Mountain was a lot of fun and it has been a shame that they could not have special seasonal content along its lines, races actually designed to be in snow and blizzard conditions, oh and also the 3 stars for each race with special objectives system was awesome. Instead they took the new things from the expansions of the wrong game, and we got bugged treasure chests and accolades.
But yes, very much agreed that the formula has known ingredients, and I don’t know why I keep expecting things to be better again, or at least more memorable. Horizon 2 did an amazing job with that side of things, memorable towns and races, oh and creative bucket list challenges.
I now own every car that we can own except for the Ford GT40 #2 and Koenigsegg CCGT, and upcoming content is going to be a slog for not much additional. The evolving world aspect is very interesting, but evolution is slow too. As usual there are huge tracts of land that are not used on the map, but I don’t expect roads to be added there. That would be truly evolutionary and revolutionary for the franchise.
As for someone mentioning Need for Speed, the last few haven’t been great so I feel I’d welcome playground’s having a go :).
For horizon gameplay, I wish be more arcade, more fun not more grindy.
They can make a big hot wheels or blizzard or LEGO in the main game not just a small DLC.
Horizon can be more arcade like Riders Republic , even like Asphalt in mobile.
I wish PGG focus on more various events ,more fun map, more festivals. For new cars ,new physics and everything basic and bottom it’s Turn 10’s job.
Now After FH5 brings rare new I am looking forward to the new Forza Motorsport in 2022 have a big improvement from the bottom Forza Tech engine.
lol, sure you can.
Every video game series feels stale the more games you make. Horizon luckily has the ability to change locations. As bad as it sounds. They should stop releasing free DLC cars as new cars are made. That’s part of the reason the new game isn’t as important. Think of all the cars they added to FH4. If they didn’t do that but put them in FH5 it would make FH5 that much more important to play. I’m glad they don’t do that but…
Tell me on which leaderboard you want me to be in top 30. As long as the top 30 is not cheaters, that is.
I’ll post a time in top 30 (legit racing), and then you go check the leaderboards and come back here to issue a public apology for being the typical mediocre that automatically doubts people with any type of ability.
Lol, you are so very typical…
Oh, and to make it even more humiliating to you, and your mediocrity, let’s bet real money too, lol. You tell me the amount.
Kids today always so “doubtful”…
LMAO
I’m not a kid and you’re not as good as you pretend to be.
LMAO, so you are afraid now to be proved a mediocre that talks too much in public?
You may not be a kid, but you for sure are a mediocre. Thanks for the laughs…
Oh, and if you think that being in top 30 in Horizon makes you a super great “racer”, then I am wasting my time even more with you, LOL.
Horizon is the easiest game of all to be “fast”. I guess you have no idea what being really fast is…
Go play some sims, grown up kid, so you can understand what I mean, LOL.
P.S. I can’t get past you thinking top 30 in Horizon makes you a super fast driver; that time would be average for any decent competitive simracer… LMAO
But… Uhm… Didn’t all those cars new to FH4 make it that much more important to play compared to FH3? Remember the time when some people said if you like Toyota and Mitsubishi you should just play FH3 instead?
No, there were plenty of new cars at release. Horizon 4 was a very big shift from the previous horizons (for the worse imo). So even if it didn’t have the 200 extra cars it did at launch it would have been received as more than just a new location. Fh5 is much more similar to FH4 than 4 was to 3.
I think 5 is miles better than 4 because of the map design alone. The racing is actually pretty fun.
My biggest complaint with FH5 right now is the close finish nonsense. I’ve probably had 2 dozen races (online) where I was ahead of the person on my screen and it said they beat me. The problem was in FH4 too but not this bad.
Ah, I see what you mean. As much as I too am enjoying FH5 a great deal, and also was disappointed by FH4 in several ways, I very much understand the complaints that this game feels like an expansion to the previous one, which really wasn’t the case for the other Horizons.
But on one hand, the cars added to FH4 were never free DLC just for funsies or just to add value to the base game as such, they were “live content”, the purpose of which was to keep people playing and/or get them back to the game. And on the other, since FH5 follows the exact same model, I’m sure it’ll see tons of new cars added to it over the years for the same purposes.
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The biggest problem i see (and the most frustrating thing as well) is every forza game just lacks in certain areas with every release (customization for example). They add new features and stuff here and there but never really build on it, they either take something away to add something new, just take something away, or leave it as it was. Its like they take a step forward and then a step back, which means they arent really going anywhere. I honestly like FH5 more than 4, but even now i find myself just going to assetto corsa with mods more often because the options are there. But i agree with the grinding aspect, its so frustrating to have to do a bunch of random stuff just to get one car that you know will be a nightmare to get later on.
In a perfect world, id love to see them release another series alongside horizon/motorsport aimed at the real petrolheads and car fanatics, instead of a general audience, but that would be a perfect world scenario and unrealistic
There are some great points in the posts and replies
IMO the formula is failing because PG isn’t putting in effort to add more on top of what already exists. We’re 5 games into the Horizon franchise and it’s all been more less the same. We got the racing part, what about the music festival part? Car meets? Letting us walk and roam the festivals or player houses? Doesn’t have to be some amazing brand new never seen before features, would love to see them expand more on what other games already do.
The game is targeted at a casual audience, but like OP mentioned, what exists now is basically just the wow factor, once that wears off good luck getting casual players to stick around
The game has so much potential to be greater but it’s been falling short for me. FH5 in some ways feels like it’s taken more steps back than forward compared to FH4. The seasons are barely noticeable to me and honestly I wouldn’t even notice if seasons weren’t a thing in FH5.
This game feels more like an open beta than a finished product in its current state, not just the bugs but in general
LOL @ Grind
only problem i have is that it is now too easy and there’s no real story progression like the first one
everything has become a participation reward
no need to win just play
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OP can speak for themselves, there’s a ton to love in this game. Hope they find their open world fix in The Crew 3 or the next Need for Speed or something.
Going back to the question posed in the OP, I would say it depends on how you define the Horizon formula. If we define the Horizon formula as an open world racer with a simcade handling model, great car roster and large open maps and progressing through the game by winning races and doing PR stunt like challenges and stories to earn cars and credits to unlock a big finale race, with optional multiplayer game modes then I would say that the formula still has a lot of potential.
However, I do agree with the sentiment that what the devs have been doing with the franchise isn’t working anymore with the same issues returning game after game unaddressed, more and more player choice (especially around multiplayer) removed in favor of pushing players into game modes of the developer’s choosing, and the focus on live service. I’m sick and tired of these things, and if Horizon continues down this path I see them losing big time to the next not terrible open world racing game.