I like the car list, but there are some issues with Division choices

I really enjoy this car list - there’s plenty of variety, and there are some absolute classics that i’ve been dying to drive in a Forza Motorsport title.

I do however have a problem, and this is a problem I had with FM7 as well which is the car categorisation. Whilst most cars fit in their respective categories, some are… plain weird.

e.g. the Lamborghini Essenza is categorised as a Forza GT car, and not a Modern Factory Race Car (amongst its peers like the Ferrari FXX-K and Aston Martin Vulcan).

another e.g. the Ferrari LaFerrari, Porsche 918 and Mclaren P1 are not in the Modern Hypercar category, but in Modern Exotic GT. This doesn’t make much sense, especially as the roster of cars for MH span many years that overlap with this trio.

Another e.g. the 1969 Lola #6 Penske Sunoco T70 MkIIIB is classed as Prototype Group Racing amongst Can-Am racers - the first T70 did indeed run in Can Am, but the MkIIIB was a challenger for Ford, Ferrari and Porsche.

Anyway, you catch my drift. I think these are pretty glaring errors and I reckon car fans will agree with me on this one :man_shrugging:t3: i’m hoping the changes that T10 made to the back end mean that categories can be updated and revised on the fly, as I really really think this needs to be done here.

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The Lambo is a GT car because the Super Trofeo isn’t included this time.

Weirder still, the 3 V8 supercars are now GT cars too!

And the usual GT4 cars being included as well

All kinds of weird stuff happens when the game isn’t officially licensed.

We need car tags now. The fact that some categories have like 50+ cars while other have 2, is kind’ve insane. There’s not even a Modern Muscle car or Modern German sports category anymore. They’re all just tossed into a “Modern Sport Touring” category. Who calls a Challenger Hellcat a “touring car”? So bizarre. Tags or having cars in more than one division is feeling like a requirement at this point. Otherwise some cars are stuck in giant chaotic mish-mash divisions & others are practically useless stuck racing one or two different cars, which will get boring real fast.

For example the Hellcat would be in a Muscle Car tag, Modern Muscle tag, Sports Touring tag, Drag Race tag etc. Making its uses more diversified & allowing for a lot more diversity & different categorizations.

They should be in the Forza Touring division imo, thoughts?

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I definitely hope a big focus of their continual updating is changing and adding classes and divisions. Having a bunch of mixed grab bag of actual race cars from actual race divisions jumbled up in one race class just looks silly on track. And rips authenticity out of the experience, Which on some level. They seem to be courting that experience. There should be racing divisions like Miata Cup, Late model German Touring car Cup. Track exotics for Porsche RS and Lambo Evos, Can Am trophys. The problem they have right now is that they’re holding back a huge chunk of cars from the potential car list they have to pull from. If they wanted to, They could have 1000 cars at launch. Fleshing out wider bands of divisions. But with the attempt for authenticity, they really should have been hyperfocused on as granular a division divide as possible. Keep as few cars to as realistic a division, instead of making sure each division had a certain amount of choice. The Mission R is the only one I saw with its own category. There should be way more 1 - 2 car divisions to spread the game out. Heck, I love watching the Super Trofeo racing series. Theres so many they could split up. But it still feels like they’re dipping their toe into authenticity while sitting firmly in the lala land of mass car variety.

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Yeah I definitely agree with you here. I also noticed that the 488 Challenge is in the GT series, when it should really have a spec racing class on its own like in real life. Fortunately, the car list itself is actually good, its just they need to reshuffle things a little bit and maybe this’ll happen when new cars are added (like KTRON-0001 said, the Essenza being a ‘GT car’ due to the lack of proper Lambo GT3 car).

What I will say is that its great that there is open class racing classes as well - this was Forza 7’s biggest issue for me when it came to single player because multiplayer fully incorporated an open class style racing (ABC was absolutely king tier) but nothing like that for single player. So, at least we have the option to go outside of the divisions in single player.