How can I get these cars?

OK, I guess something changed for which you all needed to make that change, that wasn’t the way it worked months ago. But anyway…

From time to time, FH5 wants to “Optimize for my PC”. When that happens, I see some cars that I really like, but I have no clue how to get:

The first three are obviously from the Hot Wheels world, so I would assume that I would get them by winning races and other challenges. But the thing is, at this point I barely see any challenges left in the Hot Wheels world. All the races and sprints and other things show as done, and there are still a bunch of those balloon things that I’m not too crazy about. But in the regular world of FH5, I already earned over 3 million CRs or whatever they’re called (sorry, I don’t play the game much anymore for lack of time), and I have a lot of cars, from small ones to big ones, and the map for that domain shows me tons and tons of races and more challenges. But the Hot Wheels map is almost empty.

What sucks about that is that I can’t even use all the cars that I earned in the Mexican adventure on the Hot Wheels one, which is by far my favorite. I can only use less than half the cars I earned in the Mexico one.

So how can I earn these cars? I can tell from doing an online search that FH5 doesn’t have cheat codes that enable cars. I wouldn’t cheat on a race to win, but if these cars are part of FH5, I paid for the game, so I want to get what I paid for. Especially since I bought the most expensive version that is supposed to come with all the extra stuff.

As for the fourth car, which is not in the Hot Wheels world, maybe I already have it, so if anyone can tell me the name and brand I would appreciate it.

  • The Lotus Evija 2020 is available in the Autoshow, or by completing the “Horizon Arcade Fan” accolade.
  • The Hot Wheels Bad to the Blade is a DLC car, which becomes available in the Autoshow after completing the “Fresh Orange Routes” mission.
  • The McLaren 765LT 2021 is available in Horizon Backstage.
  • The Mercedes-AMG One 2021 is available in the Autoshow or as a Wheelspin.

You can find a list of all cars and how to get them in the Forza Wiki:

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Only at the start. As you progress through the Hot Wheels expansion, it slowly unlocks other classes of cars until you can choose whatever you want. It will occasionally tell you if you’re choosing a car not suited for the Hot Wheels environment (cars that are over lower class without the power to sustain inverted driving usually)

Thanks!

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Right, but it’s gotten to a point where I don’t know what else I can do in the Hot Wheels world to move forward. Everything that is a race or competition of any kind is marked as done in the map, and I have a few of those balloons left, but those usually mean spending a lot of time first getting close to them, and usually you have to jump, so if you don’t get them, you have to go back to jump again. I don’t have a lot of time to play games, so I hate to waste it on popping balloons.

The only things I didn’t play enough are the user built races, which can go from mediocre to really amazing, like one I did the other day but I can’t remember the name now. But those user made races just give you some points, but don’t move you forward like the races that come with the game, correct?

In the pause menu, hot wheels tab there’s a section on the left for the hot wheels campaign. It has the requirements for each of the cars available. Most of the cars are pretty easy to get iirc.

Also, in the houses/festival/pause menu there’s a car collection tile to access the list of the cars in the game. Select the car you’re interested in to see how to it’s accessible. It’s pretty straightforward but some that are available from an accolade, I have to Google it for the answer.

That’s because Hot Wheels is dependent on your finishing key spots with Mexico. For instance, if you don’t progress far enough in Mexico to unlock Horizon Rush, you won’t be able to see any of the Hot Wheels PR Stunts and thus, you can’t progress.

IF you miss, just hit the rewind and try again.

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Oh, that makes it more clear. I thought each world was its own, and you had to complete challenge in each to move forward. Good to know, thanks!

I think you’re mistaken about that. In the last two days, I played the Mexican world for hours. I played more the last two days than the last two months. I finished all the chapters, the last of which was a race that was almost 24 minutes long.

In the Mexican world, I have tons and tons of cars. I had purchased the top version of FH5, which came with a lot of additional cars. And since January, I earned about 8 million CRs.

However, after all this, I went back to the Hot Wheels world, and the map was as empty as it could be. And this is with the filter set to all. In the Mexican world, I can’t have that filter set to all because it’s overwhelming, the whole map is covered in events and this and that. In Hot Wheels, filter set to all, and the map is mostly empty, with some scarce balloons, and races that I already completed.

There are a few things that to pass, I would have to set the difficulty to highly skilled, but I don’t play enough to be that. I probably wouldn’t win anything if I set it that way.

It seems to me that the Hot Wheels world was designed as an afterthough compared to the Mexican and even the rally expansion, where I can still find plenty of things to do in.

To put one example, last night I was trying to find challenges in Hot Wheels, and there was a drift challenge, something I have found many times before. Thinking it might lead me to advance, I drove to it. So I follow the GPS voice and the line, and do my best to drift, which is something I’m not good at and I find rather boring.

But I follow the line, trying to drift as much as possible, get to the destination, which as you probably know, then tells you “Turn around, whenever it is safe to do so”. I turn around, go back the same way to the destination, which is the place where I started. I go past it, again turn around blah blah blah, go back to the second destination, doing my best to drift, getting points and so on.

I keep doing that for about 15 minutes, and honestly, I’m getting bored, because as much as I love the visuals (I’m really blown away by the graphics in this game, especially the Hot Wheels world, and how they took a child game and made it into this incredible world that is fascinating to look at), it’s going the same track back and forth over and over. Which is very different from the other challenges, because if it’s a race with laps, I know how many laps until I’m finished, or if it’s one of those with the percentage, I also know when it’s going to be done.

With these drift challenges, I feel like an idiot going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, without having a clue as to when it’s going to be over. Does that make sense?

But it seems to me that they didn’t think this expansion very wheel apart from designing the most beautiful visuals any game ever had. They focused on that, but left the gaming part as a very last concern. Because in the Mexican world, I never got to a situation where my map was almost empty except for some little challenges. I always had plenty of races and other challenges, and the map was always full. That was also the case with FH4, although I haven’t played the Lego expansion because honestly I find it cute but at my age I don’t care for it.

So is there anything else I can do to move forward in Hot Wheels?

Can you post a video so we can all see it? It’ll make it easier if we see exactly what the problem might be rather than with just a description.

there certainly is enough to do on the hot wheels map, it’s not really an afterthought

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It does sound like they just haven’t progressed enough to see everything but it would be nice to see @SebeeAlvee add screenshots at least.

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When you are in the Hot Wheels expansion, in the Hot Wheels tab of the pause menu there’s a tile on the left that when selected, shows your progress through the campaign. You have to complete enough of the beginner tasks to open the next level and so on. It’s class based and opens faster classes as you progress.

The drift zone would need a specific minimum amount of points done with the right class car. It’s not cumulative over multiple attempts. When you have the drift zone icon highlighted on the map it should show the class and the points required for 1, 2 and 3 stars.

Once everything is opened on Hot Wheels the map is equally covered as the MX map.

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here’s a third of the hot wheels map once everything has been completed

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I took some screenshots trying to cover as much of the map as possible:

This map is a far cry from the Mexican world. There’s barely anything in it compared to it. I set the difficulty to highly skilled since there were some challenges that required that in order to win. And I won 3 of them after trying several times, and there’s one that I gave up for the day yesterday because no matter what I did, I would still come in second or third.

So hopefully this will make me advance, but to me it seems clear that the Hot Wheels world doesn’t have near as much as the Mexican one. In the Mexican one, I never came to a point where I wondered what the hell do I do next? There were always new things coming up on the map, even before I finished others.

Open the Hot Wheels Academy. In freeroam, pause | hot wheels tab | Academy. Finish some things available in the B and A sections because

Is in your screenshots. There’s still S1, S2 and X to open.

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Everything’s defined so there’s no need to hope or guess. Not everything is a map icon.

I found the HW expansion less than enjoyable most of the time so much of it was done in smaller chunks. If time is short, target the easier tasks or find the tasks you want to do.

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As @WhiteBurrito42 said, you need to do more than what appears on the Hot Wheels Map. You need to achieve more points through tasks listed here:

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I’m aware of those other things. The problem is that for what I see, the things I haven’t completed yet require the difficulty to be set pretty high, and that means having to repeat races or other challenges a lot. It stops feeling like fun and start feeling more like work.

The Mexican world gives you plenty of challenges without having to raise your difficulty level. Those events that require a pro difficulty are still there, but if you don’t complete them, you don’t run out of things to do. That’s the problem with the Hot Wheels world, it’s designed so you have to work hard to get more events. But this is a game, so I don’t want to work hard, I want to have fun.