Theres 15 American tracks and only 8 “European” tracks, Only 2 japanese tracks and one middle eastern track, pretty boring ngl
More love for the Japanese and Euro tracks please, including the fantasy ones from earlier games - Kaido, Camino, Positano, Iberion, etc.
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Be sure to bump the topics of the tracks you wish to see. Help them get more votes.
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I’m asking myself, why t10 decided to delete so much circuits from previous games and now adding them like 1 per month? Where’s COTA, Monza, Dubai, Long Beach, Le Mans Bugatti and others. Maybe there’s some troubles with licenses, but idk. If not, and they are just updating them before adding, why can’t t10 just add outdated version of tracks and change it to updated versions later? It’s 1 year after game release, but it still feels like there’s not too much tracks as I wanted
They said their new tire model causes porpoising on their old track surfaces, so all their tracks must be resurfaced (literally “from the ground up”) to accommodate the new tire model.
Yeah no I’m not buying that.
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If you’re not familiar with 3D modeling, the entire track/road is essentially just meshes. “Resurfacing” those meshes on any old track would take a skilled modeler only a few hours of work. In some cases, they might not even need to apply or change textures on those meshes. Updating all tracks would literally take no more than a week. However, I’m sure that’s not the only reason we’re missing all the city tracks.
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Doesn’t really matter what the devs say, we already know they don’t give us the full reasons why they do certain things.
Fact is:
- licensing is a big part (except the Forza original tracks of course)
- the curbs in previous Forzas are 2D with a rumble texture on them, so that is the main thing that they need to “resurface”
- they want to redo the props and switch out all/most of the textures
- lighting models and skybox changed with the new engine
It’s certainly not just resurfacing and considering that the track surface is one of the easiest things to change, it’s kinda strange that they chose this as their main reason.
The T10 PR-team is certainly not cooking.
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From the beginning, it’s clear that the developers have focused very heavily on tracks from the USA. Of the 29 tracks (counting Bathurst, which will be added in December), 15 of them are from the US. Which means there are more American tracks alone than from all other countries. If we consider only what tracks were added after the release, the situation is similar. 4 of the 9 added tracks are from the US (Daytona, Sebring, Road Atlanta and Sunset Penisula). The game includes such little-known tracks as Lime Rock Park, Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course and Virginia International Raceway and lacks space for such legends as Monza, Interlagos, Imola, Fuji or A1 Ring(Red Bull Ring).
The same is with the racing series included in the game. There is NASCAR, Daytona Prototypes and various generations of Trans Am and no such series legends as DTM or Super GT.
I understand that the Developers are from the US and that motorsport is heavily developed in that country, but that doesn’t mean that other countries have to be ignored. I think the developers have pushed the American-centrism in FM too far, and it would be nice if they focused less on the US market and paid more attention to the rest of the world.
So that no one misunderstands this. This is not an attack on the developers. Only pointing out that the balance between what is American and what is not has shifted a little too much toward the US. As I wrote above. It would be nice if the creators appreciated the achievements of the rest of the world a little more.
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More options is always great but my answer is yes. In particular, it feels like American tracks take up at least 60% of track rotation in Featured Mutiplayer events despite the US being only 1 of several major hubs of motorsport in the world. I actually brought this up in a different topic earlier.
Hopefully after the Aussie month we get more of Japanese and European content.
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Lime Rock and Mid Ohio have been on IMSA’s schedule since the 80s. VIR was a popular track starting in the 50s till it closed in the mid-70s and has been widely utilized since it reopened in 2002. Just because they aren’t on the F1 calendar doesn’t mean they are unknown.
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The old DTM vehicles from the 90s have been in demand since FM3. But unfortunately t10 never thought about bringing these legends into the game, only the series vehicles, which is a shame. The same goes for the BTCC or STW from the 90s, and this license can’t be expensive anymore because it’s a 30-year-old racing series.
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Did you honestly just use Sunset Peninsula as a real US track to make your argument? It’s a fictional track.
“Built in 1958 on the west coast of Florida, the oval circuit includes long straights and challenging banked turns, making it a great choice for testing top speeds and mastering high-speed cornering.”
This is the description the developers put in the post about update 13. I didn’t make it up but T10 did.
I know that this is a fictional track, but the creators themselves admit that even if it is fictional, according to them it is located in the US. If the developers themselves think so, why should I not count this track to the list of US circuits? The situation is identical with Eaglerock Speedway, Grand Oak Raceway and Maple Valley. Each is fictional, but according to the creators themselves is US-based.
Each of these tracks has only local/national recognition. I don’t think you want to tell me that they are as popular as the legends I mentioned. They are not even close to them.
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I’ll happily wager that more people who play this game know what Mid-Ohio, Lime Rock, and VIR are than there would be people who are familiar with Portimao, Interlagos, or even Monza. Calling those tracks just “locally/nationally” known is like calling Daytona International Speedway a short track. You’re not just wrong - you’re wrong enough that I have to seriously question the rest of your statement as a result.
There is one conceit that I will grant to Turn 10, and I’ll say this even as I find their reasoning for their track re-dos to be highly suspect - being that they are based in the United States, it stands to reason that they are able to get to US and NA-based tracks easier than they are European and Asian-based tracks. Of course, it just so happens that the North American continent is home to some really, really good race tracks that deserve much more love than they have received in years past…but even then, there is much more that Turn 10 can be doing in that regard.
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Ah yes, I’m sure the International Motor Sports Association is and has always been popular on an exclusively national basis. Silly me.
Americocentrism in its full glory. Mid-Ohio, Lime Rock and VIR more recognizable than Monza, Interlagos or Portimao. And you’re the one quetioning the rest of my statement? WOW! Seriously? Mid-Ohio, Lime Rock and VIR host only local/national series (Mid-Ohio only this year hosted a global TCR World Tour series event). Of the American tracks much, much more globally recognized are COTA, Long Beach and Willow Springs.
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You keep saying this, but IMSA has always been international. It’s literally in the acronym.
I love VIR, especially the Grand West variant, but you have gone three towns by saying that those tracks are better known than Monza, which is one of the temples of motorsport worldwide.