Feedback welcome.
They have changed the physics recently, less impact of car weight making some cars usable for online while those were not before. S1 Trailcat for instance, My 1 year old tune could hardly pass the waterfalls landing, same tuning, no modification, now passing every time. Some could say I improved my skills, nothing such, just jump full speed, lands and goes straight, few months ago it was very often sliding to the left in the rocks with exact same tune.
This could have significant impact on top cars.
1 Like
Can somebody confirm that? I don’t think it’s possible.
The only changes I saw from the release is the speed glitch which works a bit differently now.
It’s always tricky when something cannot be demonstrated and I am totally ok if some negate the thing. For me, it’s clear, trailcat never reached top of waterfall rivals, have a look there now. This plus my old tune now perfectly going through that water landing part without a single sign of instability, I have no doubt.
They could have changed only the trailcat but I have the feeling heavy weight cars are much more frequent ahead than they were few months ago. People were complaining the weight was having too much impact, now I have beaten some of my GT 2005 score with a 911 carrera S … 200kg heavier. Regardless my level and experience, 200kg is a world when comes to take a turn, at least, it was.
Just like auto car reset, some were suggesting nothing was modified … until they faced it.
It’s fine. I don’t play enough recently so I would probably miss it. If the speed glitch is different, something else could be too. Slight tuning but probably for something else then direct physics tuning.
every car with v8 + centrifugal supercharger or ferrari v12 swap is op
1 Like
There is no “Best car” in any class.
On one side you have people who know how to tune, that can build a competitive car out of anything.
On the other side you have the clueless noobs who think a car is “the best thing ever” because they clicked every tuning option on the far right… Then put it into the first wall at 200mph and rage quit.
And what is wrong with tuning a Ford Escort up for S1?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with tuning ANY car in S1 class, and family salloons with high power and performance stats are not unrealistic. Hell, i am old enough to remember watching Volvo 850 Estates on TV in the BTCC and nobody ever complained about them killing “proper” touring cars… Though TOCA were pressured into changing the regulations to try and get them banned.
My favourite S1 car is the Rover SD1 (without the ugly Forza aero), and tuned it to wipe the floor with most “proper” sports cars in this class.
Sorry if the thought of a cheap family car doing well in S1 disgusts you, OP
2 Likes
OP said best cars, plural. There is a hierarchy of cars which are better than others, each class has some standouts, followed by others which are competitive but not quite as good, followed by many which will remain uncompetitive no matter how good the tuner is.
What level do you drive? If you drive “new racer” against AI, this might be true… if you drive at competitive level (people who do not put the car into the first wall at 200 mph), you could not be more wrong. There are cars that are so much out of class that they feel and drive like a different PI level.
To be honest which car you start with is far less important than the quality of the tune you put on it. I have a Mini Traveller tuned to S1 (not by me, by someone who knows what they’re doing) which will wipe the floor with many supercars.
True in some cases, not all. If you start with a sow’s ear you are not going to tune it into a silk purse.
We’ve recently been doing Railyard Express street rivals in S1. What time are you able to do for that with the Mini Traveller? Jezza and I are around 1:54 with the Ford GT.
1 Like
I’ll try it out tonight but tbh I don’t think my times will be relevant. I’m a reasonable driver but far from the best. I can beat pro drivatars on the Goliath (haven’t tried unbeatable yet) but you’re almost certainly faster than me.
To compare the cars’ relative performance, set a time in both cars. It is your own times which are the relevant factor in comparing cars.
Or if you tell us which tune you used for the Traveller it would allow us to try it as well.
While there might not be a “the best car” (Peels and Track-Tor excluded) there are rather big performance differences between cars at the class limit PI.
And this fact can’t be denied. A Rover SD1 or Mini Traveller tuned to S900 will surely work against “unbeatable” drivertars and might work for Unranked online racing but they’ll never compete with the top S1 cars if driven by comparable drivers.
To give an obvious example: Compare a S2 998 Rimac with a S2 998 Porsche GT3 PO. There is no competition, the GT3 PO (or F50 GT/CCGT) feels like a different performance class.
The same can be experienced in every class.
Take the new E63 S. I built an A800 tune which works, which provided me with some wins in Unranked. But once a decent driver joins with a Daytona, Alfa or GTR/Evo you won’t stand a chance. And there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. The car simply can’t go this pace.
@Jezza:
The Pista might work on tracks where its ridiculously high drag value can’t do much damage but it can only be run with off-roads or drag tires. Both builds (+swapped Racing V12) ran comparable times on my track (within 1 second) but it’s ~8-9 seconds off the top cars (King Cobra excluded).
Sounds good to me Rayne, if you get a chance 
.
Gave it a try in my RWD Ford GT. 3:42.5xx.
3:35.4 with the Monaco with miles of room to improve.
I think the race tires give me the edge over you here, Bree.
A lot easier to maintain the speed on this power track.
Had a few runs in some of the top S1 cars:
Bugatti EB110 - 3.46
92 NSX - 3.50
Koenigsegg CCX - 3.50 (RWD)
Portofino - 3.55 (had tried before but thought I’d give it another go now I’ve learnt the course).
The CCX could go a fair bit faster as I couldn’t get a clean start and made a couple of errors on that run.
Times were against Unbeatable running Manual Clutch with assists off except ABS.
Hello,
3:46 ! have you shared your tunes for the EB110 ?
Do you know how to use manual with clutch? It will be necessary if you want to drive EB110