FM7 vs. FH4

I own the standard edition of FH4 on windows 10 and i love playing it. However, I’ve got some cash to spend and where I live, ‘Forza Horizon 4 Ultimate Add-On Bundle’ and ‘Forza Motorsports 7 Standard Edition’ are exactly same price currently. Which one should I buy? Help me to choose between these two tempting options :stuck_out_tongue:

How long is Forza Motorsports 7 gonna last until the new one comes out? Should I buy it or should I just max out my Forza Horizon 4 with that add-on?

Note: I will be playing with a controller.

I would go with FM7 without any question, but it also comes down to what you want out of your game.

FM7 is more serious racing, you can easily spend 150+ hours on the career mode alone if you wish so. You have more cars, real race tracks, as well as some made up ones.

According to the latest news by the developers FM8 is not being worked on yet, so i wouldn’t expect it before 2020.

I own both games, both ultimate edition, and FM7 gives you more value than FH4, let alone the expansions for FH4

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In my opinion, it depends on what kind of racing game you like. If you like actual racing, go buy FM7, but if you like more freeroam racing, get FH4.

However, I’d get FM7, because there’s a lot more playing time involved, and you get 700 cars not including DLC.

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As the above posters have said, I agree FM 7 IMO is the best choice. I have been playing this game solidly since launch and haven’t even started the Career part yet. I ran a few events in the opening of Career, and to my surprise never made it back to pick up where I left off. There really is endless replayability with FM 7. There is always community Rival Events to participate in as well as Leagues, and plain old Multiplayer lobbies. Not to mention an entire Rivals section with a Leaderboard for each track variation, with each class represented.

From what I have been reading on the Forza Horizon 4 Forum section, the Multiplayer aspect leaves a lot to be desired. So if that’s your thing FM 7 is miles ahead of FH4 in that category. Also no dedicated Rivals for all classes missing from FH4.

As far as you playing on controller, absolutely no worries there, Forza Motorsport and the Horizon series play the same. Honestly no game on the market can come close to any of the Forza games when playing with a controller, Forza dominates in this aspect offering the most user friendly experience.

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Any Codemasters game plays better on a controller.
DiRT/GRID/F1 series.

Based on various demos (and possibly a rental or two) over the years, I’d disagree. DiRT and GRID were kinda playable (moreso GRID than DiRT), but not nearly on par with Forza for handling. The last playable F1 game (unless they made MAJOR improvements after 2017) was way back on the OXBox - and I’m not sure if that was Codemasters, but at the very least I’d say it was better driving an F1 car in that game than in Forza. But F1 cars aren’t much fun, really.

I’m not a fan of F1 either but I played F1 2018 demo and on free weekends and it’s amazing how much control you have. Basically the wheel turns 1:1 to your stick movement in any situation and you have such option as saturation which allows you make it smoother on lower input levels. It is perfect and understandable from 1st minute while forza has very unnatural correcting system? Idk how to call it but sometimes it can get unpredictable, especially in chase cam mode (it is easier to tell what the car is doing when you can see the wheel, which again has weird movement in Forza; still readable though).

Edit: just to make it clear I have 1000+ hrs of GRID Autosport on Steam and I played a lot of DIRT (2/3/Rally/4 not so much) both on pc and Xbox. So my opinion is also based on some experience.

Road map for FM7 is until 2020 at least. Microsoft plans to launch the new console in the beginning of the next decade.

FM7: Superior physics, more cars on the grid, real-world tracks, many more race cars (and cars, overall), extensive and varied career mode with possibility of long races, moving away from microtransactions, complete Rivals mode, better Paint Booth for creation of designs; still relatively unpolished, currently experiencing connection issues, mid-cycle, smaller community involved due to FH4’s recent release

FH4: Superior graphics, more variety in surfaces, route creator (as of October 25th), more involved online experience, bugfixes for many cars, cars absent from FM7, beginning of the cycle; features that favor grinding by limiting access to content on purpose and seem to be repurposed microtransactions (though they cost zero money), car categories often make zero sense, limited Rivals mode (as of October 20th), community is less mature overall (but not that much less), AI is worse and less fun to race against

For the same price, I’d get FM7, as it gives you a full game, not just DLC.

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Which means FM8 will be one of their flagship games that comes in a package deal with the console? Great, so it will be unplayable online for the first year because of all the billies still buying the console and trying out their new game.

I seriously did not expect such effort and time you guys have put into marking out such details within this short time. I guess it indicates the strong community around FM7. Thank you for that. I was at first opting for FM7 myself because i played a few races in career mode at a friend’s house and also I played FM6 Apex edition (free version on windows10 store) for some time so I was tempted to try real time competitive multiplayer in FM7. And then I found out that ForzaRC excludes PC players altogether and started to have second thoughts if it would be a good value for money if playing on pc.

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If you want open world racing don’t do fm7. FH is more casual than FM so if you like that stick to FH. If you want propper racing none of Forza games fit the description - go for other titles. Most people around here agree fm7 is not meant to be a propper SIM. Which contradicts T10 claims and is (at least for me) disappointing. Anyway, FM7 is a mix of casual and SIM racing.

FM7 is supposed to have some sort of penalty system in somewhere in future so it might not be a Wild West. But as of now, it leaves you frustrated most of the times. Not always.

FH4 is fun in online racing but it has much more contact. In some cases it is just rubbing but in some cases it is straight up murder.

It really depends what you want from a game. Both has their merits.

i say get both !
originally i never cared for the horizon series but after getting fh4 i have to say it’s my replacement for games like project gotham racing, need for speed & test drive.
it has elements of all 3 of those series !
route creator for me is what is going to keep horizon 4 alive much longer.
i wish they had something like a route creator in forza motorsport series.
Really there is No definite answer, comes down to what style of play you like more.
I like em both BUT getting used to horizon will kind of mess you up going back to motorsport physics especially if you do automatic in horizon & manual in motorsport.

I have the standard editions of both for the very reasons that if you simply want some arcade racing fun, FH4 is a great choice. But if you want a more challenging, competitive experience FM7 does it for me.
Mind you, moving between either requires some serious brain adjustment with regard to the car mechanics, particularly in FM7 and I often have to restart a race until I become accustomed to the feel of the car.

Personally the Horizon games only ever keep me entertained for a month before getting stale. With the way things are now I would suggest to buy 7 and a month of game pass for FH4.

FH4 is utter crap compared to the other Horizons, but compared to a REAL racing game like Forza 7 it’s downright pathetic. I’m already back on FH3 because it’s simply much better than FH4.

Forza Motorsport 7:

  • The graphics are far superior.
    -The courses are legit racetracks from around the world and very good replicas at that. You can actually see/feel the elevations in the track as you do laps.
  • Once you get use to to the physics you’ll never regret it; this should only take an hour or 2.
  • Loads of content. Everything from 1930s racers to NASCAR to F1 cars to drag racing to regular street legal cars.
  • It has a professional feel throughout.
  • Proper wheel support, although the Dec. 4 FFB update was mostly praised on Thrustmaster setups only.
  • Fully patched & supported.
  • Sold at a discount price because its a year old.
  • Proper competitive gameplay based around lap times at real racetracks, multiplayer revovles around actual racing instead of ramming each other at every corner like FH4.
  • The drag strip destroys the one in FH4.

Forizon Horizon 4:

  • This game is in it’s “rough draft” phase and won’t be patched & fixed for another 6 months at least. They’re giving it away for free with a $1 trial of Xbox Game Pass so that should tell you something.
  • the clothing/emotes/horns are hardly what I would consider prizes, wheelspins are usually crap now because of it. I continuously receive womens clothing for my male character.
  • It’s not a real racing game, it’s an arcade crash-em-up similar to The Crew or Need For Speed. For some reason they went way off the deep end with FH4 and cranked up the cheesy fakeness way beyond tolerable levels.
  • driving on the left side of the road for the 2nd year in a row sucks if you live in North America.
  • There are absolutely no new cars in FH4 whatsoever, and the 1% that are new are locked behind paywalls of course!
  • FH4 is PACKED with bugs, some are game breaking (like the online rewind).
  • The map is by far the smallest yet. After a week of hardly playing FH4 I’m already done all the showcases.
  • FH4 literally has no wheel support. It’s a driving game and you can’t use a steering wheel (properly).
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I’ve started going back to FH3 as well but FH4 does have it’s merits. For me…

  1. The PC performance is by far way better than FH3…I can at least play FH4 without wondering if I will be unable to see because of stuttering

  2. Some people might not but I actually like the seasons

  3. I enjoy doing the forzathon weekly/daily events (seems like Forza 7 maybe be trending towards that as well? Like what they are doing with the weeklies it seems)

  4. Sometimes I just like driving around and avoiding stuff

Note I don’t really do the online stuff.

Also giving it away for free for a $1 Trial isn’t exactly right. Once the trial is over, you don’t have access to the game…That’s seems to be the model…I have game pass, EA premier, etc and they tend to work the same way

I have both and I use them in two different ways…if I want to relax and drive around, I play FH4 (3 because I am still working on achievements and I bought the new maps and never played them). If I want to really feel my car drive the way I tuned it, then hands down it’s FM7.

Forza uses a lot of behind the scenes trickery to help controller users, even if all assists are off, such as speed sensitive steering & an artificial damper on weight transfer. That’s why controllers feel so good on Forza and why 9 times out of 10 is quicker than any other input.

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No comparison, play for a few hours on FH4 then goto Forza 7, huge difference, not just in looks but immersion aswell.

Forza 7 is way better, FH4 is arcade, end of