FM7 aero (it's different)

Community Hub Community Content Tuning
,
1

Hi, I am obsessed with aero and in FM7 it has changed, well the balance point has, I will post later when I know enough to post but it is different and I have been testing for weeks getting closer to an answer.

edit

Now I got more data I can post a rough base point.

Aero and maybe more things are based off the cars weight % (front)

Here is my results (that can get better over time)

% % more rear wing number than front

38 83.6
39 69.7
40 56.9
41 45.1
42 34.1
43 24.0
44 14.7
45 6.0
46 -2.0
47 -9.4
48 -16.2
49 -22.5
50 -28.4
51 -33.8
52 -38.8
53 -43.4
54 -47.6
55 -51.6
56 -55.2
57 -58.6
58 -61.7
59 -64.6
60 -65.7
61 -66.7
62 -67.7
63 -68.6
64 -69.6
65 -70.5

Stock rear wing with a forza front wing

weight %, front lbs

57 Min (50)
58 52
59 57
60 58
61 60
62 62
63 64
64 66
65 68

2

Sorry but no. It is exactly the same as FM6.

1 Like
3

no I been testing it, it was way different. Aero works the same and same pi and same downforce and drag but the balance is different say with a car that is 50-50 weight.

4

@ uber - so, you are saying that in comparison to your FM5 results, which indicated a balance at around 53% (or so), on FM7 is actually closer to 50/50? I have been wondering why the cars feel a lot better “ou of the shoot (or garage)” sort of speak!!

PRKid

Note: And, posted in FM6 Tuner’s Garage
.

5

its more like 47% in FM7.

1 Like
6

That’s what I’m saying. It was around 47% also in FM6. Look into my F6 tuning guide.

7

I updated 1st post.

8

Feels to me that since FM5, Turn10 has gradually been dialing in more understeer across the board to the cars.

It could just be me but I find that I am having to dial in more rear bar than I did before to get the car to rotate in a turn. Makes sense. More understeer makes the cars easier to drive.

Scott

1 Like
9

Add more for building

if stock has a rear wing
40-52% both wings

53-64% only put front wing

if stock has no rear wing
40-53% both wings

54%+ only put front wing

if have both options
40-52% both wings
53-59 %, front wing, stock rear wing
60+%, front wong, no rear wing

10

This thread is blowing my mind. What does all this mean in plain language?

I stopped putting aero on my cars entirely. It seems annoyingly slow. Muscle car. RWD. No aero. Good times.

Thanks guys!

11

Updated list.

With the cars weight %, if front wing is 100, rear wing is

W% FW RW
65 100 39.76
64.5 100 41.86
64 100 44.07
63.5 100 46.39
63 100 48.84
62.5 100 51.42
62 100 54.13
61.5 100 56.98
61 100 59.99
60.5 100 63.15
60 100 66.48
59.5 100 69.99
59 100 73.68
58.5 100 77.57
58 100 81.66
57.5 100 84.03
57 100 86.47
56.5 100 88.98
56 100 91.56
55.5 100 94.21
55 100 96.94
54.5 100 99.75
54 100 99.87
53.5 100 99.98
53 100 100.10
52.5 100 101.70
52 100 103.33
51.5 100 104.98
51 100 106.66
50.5 100 108.37
50 100 110.10
49.5 100 110.55
49 100 111.84
48.5 100 113.14
48 100 114.45
47.5 100 115.78
47 100 118.28
46.5 100 120.84
46 100 123.45
45.5 100 126.12
45 100 128.84
44.5 100 131.63
44 100 134.47
43.5 100 137.38
43 100 140.35
42.5 100 143.38
42 100 146.48
41.5 100 149.64
41 100 152.88
40.5 100 156.18
40 100 159.56
39.5 100 171.43
39 100 184.18
38.5 100 197.89
38 100 200.91
37.5 100 203.99
37 100 207.11
36.5 100 208.96
36 100 212.79
35.5 100 216.70
35 100 220.67
34.5 100 224.72
34 100 228.85

12

So with that info using standard forza race wings downforce level adjustable options

good aero balance with full aero (using standard forza aero wings) is 38%
good aero balance with both min aero (using standard forza aero wings) is 41.5%
any weight 59% and over should be max front and mix rear. or

Extreme front% (no rear wing)

rear wing(stock- non ajustable) (not race) 50lbs
FW
65 125.7(max 100)
64.5 119.4(max 100)
64 113.5(max 100)
63.5 107.8(max 100)
63 102.4(max 100)
62.5 97.2
62 92.4
61.5 87.7
61 83.3
60.5 79.2
60 75.2
59.5 71.4
59 67.9
58.5 64.5
58 61.2
57.5 59.5
57 57.8
56.5 56.2
56 54.6
55.5 53.1
55 51.6
54.5 50.1
54 50.1
53.5 50.0

no rear wing (25lbs)
car W% FW downforce (LBS)
65 62.9
64.5 59.7
64 56.7
63.5 53.9
63 51.2
62.5 48.6(min 50)
62 46.2(min 50)
61.5 43.9(min 50)
61 41.7(min 50)
60.5 39.6(min 50)
60 37.6(min 50)
59.5 35.7(min 50)
59 33.9(min 50)

13

I found a better way of testing this and I will soon put up a more exact result for this. The more exact results are the 2 above posts.

1 Like
14

I also did the same for the diff decel and posted it.