Where did I say anything about brand loyalty? If I like the game I buy it.
You know what’s amazing? If I think the game is missing features or has things I don’t like, I don’t buy it!
What I don’t do is come on a forum and whinge about it ad nauseum, but that’s just me I guess.
Oh, so you didnt jump into this thread and tell others … oh wait.
Another amazing concept: People are entitled to whinge, criticize, as they see fit.
You also have the right to keep on scrolling and not respond.
If this isnt a problem to you, why are you here?
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Maybe take your own advice and leave then?
I didn’t like Project Cars 1 for various reasons. However, I’m willing to give Project Cars 2 a chance. Considering I haven’t played either FM7 or PC2, nor are there any reviews out as of yet, I don’t think it’s wise for me to assume PC2 would be better suited for me.
We don’t know how the wheel is going to feel in FM7. Turn 10 have said that they have made improvements, I’ll have to see for myself. Until I play FM7 and PC2, my doors are open to both franchises.
I will play Forza 7 with my controller and PC2 and F1 2017 with my wheel and pedal setup, Forza is meant to be played by controller, I have no problem with that.
I’ve never used handbrake with forza motorsport titles…
If you are a wheel user as you say than that would be because handbrake doesnt work with a wheel, peripheral not supported.
well no mate… i have it also on the “b” button, i used with horizon but never in forza motorsport 5 nor 6…
Funny how FM3&4 could support the analogue handbrake before it was even released though… just goes to show how much more switched on the T10 team was back then.
You can complain as much as you want if it makes you feel better but face the truth: You are complaining about something you don’t know how it will be…
At this point with the game coming soon and the demo before, maybe wait to try it before complaining.
I’m finding hard to trust complains about ffb at this point to be honest…
Stick around a while and watch history repeat itself. 
I think we can gauge how it’s going to be based on the info and demonstrations we’ve been given, wich is basically nothing at all.
Compare these two things for a second, PCars 1 was heavily criticised for its poor controller support/gameplay, they have given info and demonstrations about how they have worked on the issue of the first game to improve how it works in Pcars 2.
T10 was heavily criticised about their FFB in FM6 and they have given no info on what they have done to improve it or any sort of demonstrations to show us anything. When they are asked directly about the FFB they pretty much dacne around the question and say they’ve added support for so many wheels on PC.
You know that’s not accurate? They have in fact officially announced, through both interviews and postings, that they hired an individual specifically for the physics and force feedback on the wheel. They stated clearly that they understand wheel support is a big deal because they’re now integrating on the PC, where a significant portion of racing gamers use wheels. And they know, to compete in that market, they have to have good wheel support. They even recently met with Fanatec, a terrific German wheel manufacturer to find out what kind of things needed to be improved upon. Read the article in the link below for more details.
Wheel support isnt the same as ffb. Turn 10 have confirmed they added support for almost every wheel that people would likely use but have said nothing about the ffb. Many peoples issue lie with the ffb not wheel support even though it would be nice to add some more peripheral supoort on the xbox because as far as i can gather the “support” theyve added seems to be directed at the pc side of things.
That article is from a representative of fanatec not turn 10 so just like so many other things unless turn 10 say it directly nothing is 100%. People that played the demo seem to only have 2 opinions, one is “it feels so real” (doubt it), the other is it feels just like forza 6.
The truth is the only thing available to people has been the same demo. Just like any other demo things arent set in stone yet including sounds, graphics as well as controls. Forza horizon 3s demo had horrible ffb, it was said by mechberg that it would be fixed at launch, it wasnt but then about a month later the ffb was patched and improved.
So while many opinions in this thread arent exactly positive none that i have seen are spreading false propaganda. No one here has played the final game yet but that doesnt mean people cant have an opinion on the matter. The release is close and people are getting anxious because for some reason almost no information about arguably one of the worst issues forza has been plagued with has been addressed other than people can use a guitar hero controller to play the game.
So you trust SMS for a video that demonstrate the game is playable with a joypad (imho a useless feature in a simulator, implemented just to sell more) while Turn 10 with fanatec engineer’s partnership and ppl who had the chance to try it at E3 are all liars and the story will repeat.
I suggest you to try the demo of both, then complain in this forum or in SMS one.
At moment there’s nothing to complain…
My point is they are tackling their criticism head on, unlike T10.
In regards to the people who have played it at E3 or Goodwood FOS most of them are all gamepad users, the only two people that I know of that have experience with wheels are Alan (VVV) who has said it hasnt really changed, and one of the drifters from the SC team who said it was better. So it’s still conflicting reports.
As i Said you can’t complain at all untill u try the demo anyway at this moment games are done, just wait instead of complain about something you don’t know…
Disagree, imo people are allowed to complain all they like when there is a valid reason.
Ye valid reason, this is the forum of FM7 so you can complain about forza motorsport 7, oh wait it’s not released yet but damn people must complain about something!!!
Let’s complain about FM6 instead so we have something to complain who cares if it’s offtopic?
Totally agree but what he’s saying is that people are complaining without having experienced the game. The time to complain is after you’ve tried it. At least then you could provide constructive crtisism based on fact rather than conjecture.
I agree, however with past experiences with the FFB in FM and FH games, I think we’re entitled to be skeptical with how FFB in FM7 is going to be portrayed. With footage that has been shown with a wheel, we can make assumptions based off of that. Also I don’t think anyone is complaining about FM7’s FFB. I think people are complaining about FM6’s FFB and the fact that Turn 10 haven’t said or shown much that indicates FM7’s FFB will be better leaving players anxious that the FFB in FM7 will be similar to the widely criticized FFB in FM6.